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Old 02-10-2005, 04:17 AM   #1
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Help And Advise Needed From A Guy In England

Hi all,just joined this forum and am layed sideways on my bed with labtop coz i cannot sit!!!! ggggggggrrrrrrrrr mad as hell.

Story so far year 2000 injure back playing rugby-prolapse disc L5/S1 and had operation to trimm disc.After 4 months went back to work in bank,sat down 9 hours a day.Since then back never really been same,hurts more in winter etc.
Well move onto 2003 when on Hols in Turkey was pushing car that had broke down and back just went when he engaged gears.Me on floor unable to move.Wanted to operate again after turkish MRI scan shows same L5/S1 buldge and in lots of pain in back and left leg. Me says no way want to go home to england for op,so air ambulance takes me to UK hospitol.

Consultant says will try rest first,so 6 months layed down doing nothing.Then when i go back to see him he says will try other things first,so over next 4 months try osteopath,chiropractor,physio,and 2 epidural spinal steroid injections,but back hardly improves so re do MRI scan in England and still buldging disc L5/S1,so operates july 2004 to trimm disc and remove any calcification from last op in 2000.
Result leg pain 50% better but not all gone and still got a weakness in left foot.backpain still there and really unhappy about it all.consultant is a renowned good one over here and says nothing else can be done .

On another forum,someone said i prob wont ever be right as laying down 6 months doing nowt made it worse and says probably had what we call "locked back of the facet joints" when my back went in Turkey on hols.

another says nerve root tethering a possibility,and consultant agreed but said nothing showing on MRI scan.

any advise would be appreciated

bonesey from england

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Old 02-10-2005, 06:01 AM   #2
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Re: Help And Advise Needed From A Guy In England

Sounds like my story!

I went through all the hoops and ladders as they suggested too. The only thing that finally worked for me was fusion surgery. Keep in mind everyone is different and has different circumstances, but I went to a spine specialist who finally got me out of pain.

I was where you were.. and finally became paralyzed from the pain (literally).

Old 02-10-2005, 01:27 PM   #3
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Re: Help And Advise Needed From A Guy In England

Hi Bonesey in England - I'm English but live in US so noticed you on this board - I'm at home recovering from spine microdiscectomy at T12/L1 - so higher up than yours but still painful - it's quite useful discovering this board.
I've had various back problems for years and belive that the US doctors are definately more advanced in thinking and in techniques than the Brits - sorry but true - I would say lying flat on your back for long periods of time is the worst thing - you literally seize up and your muscles stop functioning which leads to other back probs.
If you've tried physio and injections then I would say to have either a spinal fusion - but whatever you do don't just go to any orthapedic surgeon - go to a neurosurgeon who specializes in spinal work. A lot of it is just good luck as to where you live- I live in a city with one of the best medical centres in the world and found a wonderful surgeon who is one of the best in country - so far so good - I could barely walk into hospital 9 days ago but I got out of bed within 24hrs and walked the corridor of the hospital all by myself - you have to take it slow afterwards and build strength up gradually which is frustrating but essential - I'm also bored at home so let me know how you are!
The trouble with backs is everyone is so different - what works for one patient doesn't for another - very frustrating - how old are you? I should stop rambling on and post this! haha!
Good Luck - hang in there!

Old 02-10-2005, 02:17 PM   #4
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Re: Help And Advise Needed From A Guy In England

Wow. I know things are different in England but you need to try to get a second opinion. You called the doctor a consultant but didn't say whether he is an orthopedic or neurosurgeon which is what you need. Now, this isn't carved in stone but having had your L5-S1 "trimmed" twice, you are almost surely going to have to have a fusion. You aren't going to have enough disc there for the cushioning you need and the rest of that disc is going to deteriorate. I would try very hard to see another specialist. I cannot believe that any doctor would put a pt. on bedrest for 6 months!! I have never heard of such a thing for your condition.

I had my L5-S1 operated on twice and still ended up with a fusion for the reasons stated above. Problem was that I fooled around with the same dr. for too long and ended up with permanent nerve damage!

I wish you lots of luck in getting this straightened out.

2 lami's, 3 fusions
bone spur removal
cerv. fusion, 1 level
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