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    Old 09-05-2005, 08:25 PM   #16
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Thanks Linda, I noticed that alot of people are at fairly high doses of neurontin, and your correct that doc wants me to start at a smaller dose and titrate up for effect, I'm not sure what all the side effects could be on higher doses, some of my research stated the most common side effect is a better nights sleep, which would be nice once in a while. Thanks again Linda
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    Old 09-06-2005, 06:03 AM   #17
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    Bill, There can be quite a few side effects to higher doses but remember they don't effect everyone, I do remeber that I did sleep better when I was on it, the higher doses can cause brain fog such as concentration and short term memory loss and weight gain.
    The makers of nuerontin are comming out with a new med called"lyrica"it has been FDA approved and should be on the market anytime now, this is what my dr is waiting to put me on it is suppose to work as well if not better then nuerontin with less side effects.
    I have tried just about all the anti-seizure meds so far and haven't had any luck with them I'm either allergic or can't tolerate the side effects.
    I wish you the best and hope you can find the level and treatment to help your pain.
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    Old 09-19-2005, 10:22 AM   #18
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Hello to everyone once again, I finally have a appointment to see my spine specialist (it's easier talking to the president then getting a appointment with this doctor) so I will drop aline to everyone about how things went. Additionally, I've done research into methods of treating thoracic back pain and found that most traditional treatments are not every effective(epidurals, facet injections, PT, implants i.e. TENS, PCA implants, Chirco) Surgery, which is a mostly last resort due to location of herniations, is improving but still carries tremdous risks. So, I will continue my research and see if what else could be out there. By the way has anyone tried to take Glucsonmine Sulfate for disk problems, if so what was the outcome? Talk to everyone soon.
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    Old 09-19-2005, 01:05 PM   #19
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    Fireguy, thanks for the update and happy to hear you have a app. comming up.
    Your so right about treatment for the T-spine, unfortunatly I took a bad fal over labor day and am afraid I have caused much more damage to mine, if the pain is any example.
    As for the glucsomine, I have heard others talk of using that with MSM and getting very good results, I haven't tried it but it may be worth a try, I can really say that I think it can help improve the disc but may help the pain, I'm not sure.You may try researching the 2 and find out.
    I wish you the best of luck and continue to keep us updated.
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    Old 09-19-2005, 02:01 PM   #20
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    Hi. I just saw your post about thoracic back pain. I have had several surgeries in the cervical and lumbar areas. I have instrumentation in both the cervical and lumbar areasa. BUT, I have had problems in the thoracic areas as well. One report - ct/myelogram - indicated herniations from T3-T7 levels. My main complains were radiating pain to the left side and minimal amount to the right thoracic area. While there are times I was pain free it did get extremely painful at times as well. I was advised against thoracic surgery due to the area being extremely difficult to do surgery on since you have the ribs and lungs etc to contend with. So they shy away from it unless there is no other solution. Pain medication did not work for me. So i tolerate when it gets real bad which luckily is not too often. Hope you find a solution. Hope you all find a pain free day.

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    Old 09-23-2005, 09:44 PM   #21
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    Linda, sorry to hear about the fall over the holiday hope you are on the mend. Well my appointment was very interesting to say the least. The doc thinks the the disc may not be the total source of my pain after all. He has noticed compression fractures in some the thoracic vertable bodies. He is theroizing that it could be causing facet pain so we are going to attempt a thoracic epidural block and see what happens. What I have read about compression fractures is the mostly hurt within the first month after attaining a fracture. Once the fracture sight matures, the pain goes away and relief is supposedly not far behind. However, (always something isn't it) the Thoracic area is its own little creature and the doc stated there is really "not enough studies in Thoracic aborminatiles to know if its all compression fracture related". Now its off onto a process of elimination to see how things work in the course of treatment. One side light however, we have switch the oxycodone 10 mg every 6 hrs to one 20 mg oxycodone ER every 12 which is nice in the regard of not taking so many meds. I will keep everyone posted to my progress, hope this note finds all doing well.
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    Old 09-23-2005, 10:02 PM   #22
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    Bill, Thanks for the update and I hope that all goes well for you and the inj. does much to eliminate your pain..
    Please though becareful for many reasons dealing with the T-spine takes a real specialist in that area.
    I have also been doing alot of research about all these ESI Inj. and have found out a lot about themand the effects thay can cause long term..
    Again keep us updated I'll be very interested in how your doing..
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    Old 09-24-2005, 12:56 PM   #23
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    Bill, I have compression fractures at t5,6,and 11 and a burst fracture at t9. I had 3 ESI's at various points in my thoracic spine. They did help for about 4 weeks. Doctors told me that at the compression fractures I would have total relief in 6 weeks. I hate to bring you bad news but it has been 10 months for me and they are still giving me alot of pain at times. Sure they don't hurt as much now as they did 10 months ago but at times I do want to scream. I hope ypu have better luck than I have had.

    Are you still taking the neurotin? Has it helped at all?

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    Old 09-24-2005, 03:20 PM   #24
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Hi! I have had two low back surgeries and am now dealing with thoracic pain. I had an MRI and it showed something at the T7-T8 disc. It hurts when I sit and lay and also when I stand in one spot for too long. If I move around I'm usually not doing to bad. I went to a Massage therapy guy and he discovered 9 rib heads out of place. He fixed that and relieved some pain but now I'm feeling different pain. I think it's the pain that the rib head pain was covering up. It feels more like disc pain. But I have lots of pressure on T11-T12. It hurts to twist and everything. And if at night I sleep on my side, the next morning my chest hurts. It feels like my rib cage is going to collapse. Anyone felt like that? I'm not sure what to do. I'm a freshman in college and I can barely sit through classes. I worry that sitting there is making me worse. Any suggestions?

     
    Old 09-24-2005, 08:52 PM   #25
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    [QUOTE=Age17witbadback]Hi! I have had two low back surgeries and am now dealing with thoracic pain. I had an MRI and it showed something at the T7-T8 disc. It hurts when I sit and lay and also when I stand in one spot for too long. If I move around I'm usually not doing to bad. I went to a Massage therapy guy and he discovered 9 rib heads out of place. He fixed that and relieved some pain but now I'm feeling different pain. I think it's the pain that the rib head pain was covering up. It feels more like disc pain. But I have lots of pressure on T11-T12. It hurts to twist and everything. And if at night I sleep on my side, the next morning my chest hurts. It feels like my rib cage is going to collapse. Anyone felt like that? I'm not sure what to do. I'm a freshman in college and I can barely sit through classes. I worry that sitting there is making me worse. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]


    It could be your thoracic spine that is giving you troble. I can't sit for very long without getting rib pain and a burning in my back. I can only sleep on my back because any other way is to painful. I find it is more comfortable sleeping on a wedge that is about 6" high.
    Do you know what it was that they saw in the mri? Did you go to an ortho or neuro that is a spine specialist? If you haven't I would strongly suggest that you do that.
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    Old 09-25-2005, 07:19 PM   #26
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    Thanks Lorrie for the heads up on the injection, to be honest I"m not really looking foward to doing the procedure. But, I"m willing to try something non-evasive and see how it works. Linda, thanks for the warning on the T-spine area, some of the posts and other research shows its a extremely dangerous area to start injecting 18 gauge needles..not to mention surgery is nothing short of butchery of either the anetrior chest or posteior back. I will keep everyone in formed on the process thanks again.

     
    Old 10-23-2005, 07:40 PM   #27
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    Well greetings everyone once again, the injection did not go has planned. The doc was aiming for the facet and when he injected the dye he noticed that it completely leaked out of the facet capsule, meaning a tear in the costal cartilidge attached to the spine. The next step, is to inject and high dextrose solution to cause massive irrgatation to the capsule, and causing scarring, and reducing the leak. So, I'm not sure what is in store for me, this hypertonic solution sounds painful and the procedure has never been tried in my area before (making me patient zero) I will keep everyone informed on how things go.

     
    Old 10-26-2005, 01:47 PM   #28
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    Hi Fireguy - good luck with your upcoming procedure. I understand the problem with having thoracic spine problems. I had compression fractures in my upper thoracic, plus degenerative disc disease, kyphosis, scoliosis, and arthritis, probably all resulting from the fractures I had in an auto accident. I've been dealing with chronic pain for about 4 years now, and it only gets worse for me. I've been told it was from depression, trying to get out of work, pretty much everything in the book, even though my MRI reports clearly state that I have significant vertebral height loss from the fractures, the scoliosis, DDD, etc. I had the cortisone shots, but they actually increased my pain. I recently found out that my worst pain is likely caused by a vascular malformation, most likely an AVM or AVF, putting pressure on my spinal cord at T-12. I have noticed that as my pain increased over the past year, it seemed to be lower, although pain in one area tends to make other painful spots hurt worse, so it felt like my whole upper back was caving in.

    Anyway, I really feel for your predicament, and, although lower back pain is bad as well, there seem to be so many more options for those with lower back problems. I don't necessarily have problems with lifting, but I do get a great deal of pain from sitting and using the computer, which is what I do for a living. I truly hope that this works for you, Fireguy, because I know how frustrating and truly depressing this kind of thing can be, especially when you feel there is no one out there who can help you - but I'm REALLY glad you found someone who is willing to 1) believe you and 2) help you!!

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    Old 10-26-2005, 03:56 PM   #29
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    Fireguy, thanks for ck'ing in and please becareful letting someone to something to your spine that they haven't done before, I know what it's like to want the pain gone and have done some foolish things because of it..
    Take care and god luck.
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    Old 10-27-2005, 08:27 AM   #30
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    WOW!! I just found this thread and I am very surprised at the number of you who have the same problems as me. I have been dealing with it for about 20 years and have taken every test in the book to try and find the problem. All the stress tests (for heart) because of the chest pain, diagnosis from those my heart is healthy as a horse. MRIs, nothing (although in the end I figured maybe they didn't know what they were looking for). Anyway, to make a long story short, my dr (4th or 5th one, I can't remember) finally figured out from the last MRI that I have arthritis in my upper back, that when inflamed causes pinching on the nerves, which in turn causes major muscle spasms, ergo, the chest pain. So now, I am looking for alternatives to prescribed muscle relaxers so I can get some sleep, (if I lay down wrong, my chest feels like it is going to cave in), be a little more comfortable, and hopefully not be in pain 95% of the time.

    Last night was really bad! I go to bed very early as I am up early. I lay down at 8:30pm and did go to sleep, but 9:30, I woke up in pain, tried my relaxation techniques which usually work, but they didn't, was up until 1am. I finally fell asleep again, sitting up in bed and woke up the same way.

    If you do have an arthritic back that causes some of your pain, a couple things that I just started might help. Glucosamine is supposed to help keep the cartilage from deteriorating and Chondroitin is supposed to help rebuild it. I also found out that increased magnesium is supposed to help with the pain of the spasms. I don't know yet but I will keep you posted.

     
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