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    Old 08-15-2005, 11:48 AM   #1
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    Thoracic Back pain

    I was reading through alot of the post and noticed most people either have Lumbar or cerivcal spine problems. Mine however is mid back about T6 to T7, chronic pain for about 4 years problems sitting/standing long periods of time and of course I have my share of pretty good back pain. Is there anyone else that has had or still has Thoracic back problems? Any information on what to expect is greatly appericated.

     
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    Old 08-15-2005, 12:55 PM   #2
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    HI Fireguy, I have problems through out my spine and permanant S1 nerve damage, you'll find that the thoracic spine is the hardest to treat and the rarest, all though it seems to me I see a lot more of it latley.
    My drs didn't believe me for a long time but when they finally did the mri my pm dr said I had to have surgery right away and he wouldn't see me again til I did I have bulging T-5-6 and cord comp. at the T7-8 I saw a couple of NS and sent my film and reports to a very famous NS and they all said it would be to dangerous to operate so here I am living with it.
    I also have the pain if I sit, stand or lay down to long but also if I lift anything heavier then a gal. of milk.
    So how does it go for you, what does your drs say?
    Linda

     
    Old 08-15-2005, 04:56 PM   #3
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    hey linda do you have pain in your chest from your thoratic problem

     
    Old 08-15-2005, 05:58 PM   #4
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    Ed, I have had pain so bad in my chest that I have thought I was having a heart attack,I had heart surgey back in 98 and when I started having chest pain I just knew it was my heart, I went through all the test and come to find out it wasn't my heart, it was all from my thoracic spine, it sure was scary..I never knew the back could cause so much pain in so many different ways and places as it does.
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    Old 08-15-2005, 08:52 PM   #5
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    Hi Fireguy, There are a few of us here with troble in the thoracic spine. I have compression fractures of t5,6 and 11. I have a burst fracture at t9. Fortunitly it was an anterior fracture. A piece of the bone is actually flipped up and is resting on my t8. It has been 8 months and so far no surgery. Doctors really try to avoid it if at all possible.
    As far as chest pain goes it is really bad at times. I have never had heart troble and now I'm afraid that if I happen to have a heart attack I won't know it intill it's to late.
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    Old 08-16-2005, 07:04 AM   #6
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Has anyone felt like their internal organs were spasming? It doesn't last long, but it sometimes feels like something is "jumping" (not pregnant, btw). Mine's T8-9.

     
    Old 08-16-2005, 09:49 AM   #7
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Its somewhat comforting to see that others have similar problems in the Thoracic area, today I just got confirmation that I have to Grade 2 bugling disc T5-T6 and T7-T8, poor T6 is carrying all the load. After talking with my doc I have discovered that most surgeons avoid that area of the back like the plague. I'm not sure where any resources are on Thoracic back problems do any of you know of any links to such information? Additionally, I'm a firefighter/medic with about 15 years on the job, however this problem may end up retiring me from the dept. I have seen a great deal of people with chronic back pain in the field, now it appears I'm joining those ranks. I want to say thanks to anyone that may have experience or knowledge of back problems in this area.
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    Old 08-16-2005, 02:02 PM   #8
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    [QUOTE=ValerieK]Has anyone felt like their internal organs were spasming? It doesn't last long, but it sometimes feels like something is "jumping" (not pregnant, btw). Mine's T8-9.[/QUOTE]

    Yes I do get those spasms. It's the weirdest feeling. I find I get them more when I take pain meds.
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    Old 08-16-2005, 10:53 PM   #9
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Hi Fireguy,
    I have had Thorasic back problems since mid march due to an injury. My problem is called Facet joint syndrome and it sounds like that is what you have. At first 2 doctors told me it was torn ligaments, and 2 neurologists, 2 chiroprachtors, 2 mds 5 medications, an mri, x rays, triple bone scan, the cause was determined to be Facet joint Syndrome. I would google it as it's hard to explain and it never really goes away but can be treated. I finally found a really good Spine Specialist/physiatrist who figured it out, I had a facet block, which is where they inject steroids and anti inflammatories in to the affected nerves and for 5 days I was pain free, no meds, nothing, but they are supposed to last a bit longer than that and facet blocks are really painful. On Friday I had Radiofrequency Neurolysis/Ablation. It is a procedure where they kill the nerves by injecting chemicals and said radiofrequency waves that get heated up causing cauterization to the nerve. I am still in severe pain, actually a bit worse, but they told me it takes up to 10 days to feel the effects because scar tissue has to form around the nerve and when it does it will seal off the nerve and kill it. I am praying to god ths works, because I have been on a medical loa from work since the end of may and the only drug that seems to help is Ultracet/Ultram, but it's psychological side effects are turning me in to a psycho, really. It's like I have to decide between dibilitating pain or complete mania. I sleep only 3 hrs a night on this med and it wires me out so much I need to take Xanax to chill out. I had the RF so I could stop taking medication and return to a normal life. Today is Wed and I am waiting it out. If this procedure works, I could have up to a year of no pain. The nerves will regrow, but can you imagine an entire year without pain? My affected joints were T8-T12. Hope this info helps.

     
    Old 08-17-2005, 08:37 AM   #10
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Thankyou for the information, I will definitely look into these options, I know how painful the Facet syndrome is, last year I was treated for it in my neck and it is painful. However, after some spinal adjustments it went away in about 2 months. I will keep you informed on my progress as I begin to explore treatment for my back problems. Oh yes, I did get a chance to look at my films from the MRI, and the herniation of the disc are pretty noticable and to think I can't even understand what I'm look at ..ha, ha. Thanks again for sharing your experiences with me.
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    Old 08-19-2005, 08:44 AM   #11
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Hi everyone....just a question...Does anyone have problems with pain going down their arms as well as legg from upper back pain? I have pain in my middle/upper back area. When it is full blown it hurts to take deep breaths even. I had a whiplash injury a few years agao and have trouble with my neck. I can only explain it as being in the area of when you bend your head back. The part that bends it is slightly lower than that and alittle to the left side. Hurts to put pressure on it.

    I had a nerve test done 4 years agao after the accident in my left arm and everything was good.

    Lately my neck has been hurting in that area and sometimes when I move my shoulders or neck a certain way I feel something actually move there. It dosen't last long. However I get the feeling that if it did it would not be pleasent.

    Also I have pain that goes down my arm and into my left legg as well.

    I have had pain in my upper middle back area off and on for maybe 15 years. My first attack I did actually think I was having a heart attack. I took flexeril and heating pads off and on for about a week and it went away.

    At it worse I can't even sit for very long. The really only postiion that doesn't hurt as much is standing. Laying, sitting all causes pain.

    Sorry this got long. I just am wondering if there is soemhting more going on with me this time.

    My arm pain comes and goes depending what Im doing. Feels muscluar . Even if my neck and back arnt hurting as much Im still having the arm pain.

    Or maybe this is all stress related...............
    Thanks eveyrone

     
    Old 08-19-2005, 10:18 AM   #12
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Well Lauralu,

    Everything you describe fits me to a T for the last 10 years.
    Everything . . . from the breathing to the sitting to the occasional arm pain/tingling, to feeling something when you move your shoulders etc. It also feels sometimes that my ribs are moving out of place.
    I've been told by different doctors it's everything from Whiplash, to Myofascial pain, to Flattening of the the C6-C7 disc. I've never found any long term relief from PT, Traction, Trigger Point Injections, Yoga, Chiropractor, Myofascial Release, posture correction, etc. etc.
    It can be very frustrating. I recently had another really bad flair up and have decided to go ahead and try an ESI between C6-C7 at the recomendation of a neurosurgeon. This is my last attempt at relief as I have exhausted thousands of dollars looking for an answer.
    I certainly wish you luck. It's tough to have a job at a computer all day when your neck, upper/middle back starts burning the second you sit at your desk.
    I wish you luck in finding anything out. You might try looking into your cervical area as upper & middle back pain is often referred pain from this area.
    You might also look into Thorasic Outlet Syndrome as it matches a lot of our symptoms but I've never been able to get a DR. to even discuss this possibility.

    Good luck and hang in there.

     
    Old 08-19-2005, 12:16 PM   #13
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    I to have Thoracic back problems along with Cervical problems. If you check my prior posts, you'll see that I've had surgery in both areas. The Thoracic was by far the worst and I wouldn't recomend it to anyone unless it was absolutely unavoidable. Good luck, M....

     
    Old 09-05-2005, 12:00 PM   #14
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    Re: Thoracic Back pain

    Well its been awhile since I've visited this post and I wanted to thank others for taking a minute and writing about thier problems in with Thoracic back pain. My MRI was not promising, the doctor explained that the hernination or between T5and T6 is pushing on the lateral nerve root causing pain in the mid back region, with radiation around to the front of the sternum. So far its a "wait and treat" type of approach, he's prescribed neurontin 300 mg everyday, oxycodone 10 mg as needed every 3 to 4 hours, along with soma for muscle spasms. Of course thanks to you people on this post that helped educate me on problems in this region of the back. I was able to ask informed questions which I think assisted my doctor in managing my case. It appears that treatment is a nonenvasive approach, centered around pain management, chirco and PT so surgery is out of the question do to location. I'm a little afraid of taking so much medications, long term use of naracotics can lead to dependency.
    Anyway, I'm off to constult with a nero and occupational doctor about my career as a firefighter/paramedic, that could be up in the air. I will drop a line after meeting with these specialist, wish me luck!

     
    Old 09-05-2005, 06:17 PM   #15
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    Fireguy, I'm sorry to hear that the results weren't any better. You may want to do some research and talk to your dr about the nureontin that is a VERY low doseage and may not help your pain, the dosage for nerve pain is somewhere between 1800mg and 2400mg to help the pain, you should start low and slowly tirate up.
    I wish you the best of luck. Linda

     
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