It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....

Back Problems Message Board


Post New Thread   Closed Thread
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-06-2006, 07:40 PM   #1
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 140
michellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB User

Questions on IDET, I had a discogram last month, my doctor now wants to do an IDET for some tears a large one on L5 small ones on L3 and L4. My L5 has moderate to severe degeneration. I don't know what to expect or if this works or should I get a second opinion? I have read as much as I can on it but would like some advice from someone who has had the procedure I'd like to know the good the bad and the ugly of it!

Sponsors Lightbulb
Old 11-06-2006, 09:06 PM   #2
Senior Veteran
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Berryville, Virginia
Posts: 2,380
Justoneofus HB User
Re: Idet

Get a second opinion. I saw 4 ortho surgeons over the last 3 years, and NONE of them recommended IDET as a course of treatment (regardless of my situation) at the time. They stated they had little success rate with it.

I would indeed get another opinion, maybe even 2 before deciding what to do.

Take care. Tammy
"believe in the beauty of your dreams"- E. Roosevelt

L5/S1 bulging @ 18, now 46; still there (but no pain)
Fusion at L4/L5 Apr -2006
Solidly Fused Nov-2006
A Success, but still improving!

Old 11-06-2006, 11:10 PM   #3
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 372
kera4 HB User
Re: Idet

Hi! I was told that IDET works best if you only have one bad disc, not multiple levels. And your disc should not be more than 50% degenerated. Even if someone fits that criteria, some studies show only a 50% chance of improvement. Some studies show a 70% chance of improvement. My doctor's partners developed IDET, and I have read the literature. I have not had IDET, so I cannot say from personal experience. Good luck, I hope you can get lots of information to help you decide. Kera

Old 11-07-2006, 02:29 AM   #4
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 63
kittencaboodle HB User
Re: Idet

Hi Michelle......

I had the I.D.E.T. done in 2001 and regret it to this day. IMO, it did not significantly offer any degree of relief for me and I even developed radicular leg pain on the left side following it. I can't honestly say that this was the cause of the leg pain I developed, but it started shortly after having it done. The doctor that was performing it was doing 2 different levels and on the last level he had to stop at about 3/4 of the way thru it since I was starting to feel pain in my thigh. That is what makes me think it caused my constant leg pain afterwards.

I have read of others who have had great success with this. That just goes to show you that everyone is different and what works for one person may or may not work for someone else. I would definitely get at least 2 opinions on this though. I only got bad. I was very naive back then I guess. Compared to the Discogram, it was a piece of cake in terms of pain during and after the procedure. My Physiatrist has told me that he does not know of many doctors who are currently doing the I.D.E.T. after having such a high failure rate according to the studies that were done early on. In theory, the idea of it working tremendously sounded plausible, but unfortunately it didn't work out as expected. I had to wear a soft back brace for a few months with basically the same precautions as one would have after a fusion in terms of no bending, sitting too long, driving, etc. I had PT after 3 months and returned to work after 6 months starting part-time and gradually working up to full-time over a 90 day period.

Fortunately, I have recently had a Discectomy & Foraminotomy (July '06) on those same 2 levels and it reduced my leg pain by 75% along with enabling me to reduce my meds by more than 66%. Of course, I knew beforehand it wouldn't do much, if anything, for my back pain. At least I can now hold off on the multi-level fusion for the time being. Thankfully, I can live (for now) with the back pain & residual leg pain with the help of my pain meds.

I hope you get more info on the I.D.E.T. and more opinions from doctors before having it done. But please remember, everyone is different and just because some have had bad experiences with this (including myself) doesn't mean everyone will. We are all different.....thankfully

Take care.....

Old 11-07-2006, 07:17 PM   #5
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 140
michellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB User
Re: Idet

Thank you so much for the advice. Does anyone know what other options are out there for what's going on with my back? I also have a bulging disc in my neck and a pinched nerve going into my right leg that causes constant pain in my hip and down my leg. I certainly appreciate any advice you all have to offer!
Thank you so much!!!

Old 11-07-2006, 07:44 PM   #6
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1
247wcpain HB User
Re: Idet

RE lower lumbar disc problems...L4-L5 and into sacral -- I have seen countless specialists due to a herniated disc with annular tears. I was strongly advised against having disc replacement and steered toward interbody cage with fusion at that low level of spine. That portion of the spine is not designed for as much range of motion as needed for mid-back to neck regions so to have a disc replacement may actually provided too much ROM. Problem with tears in a herniated disc -- the tears leak disc matter onto the nerves thus damaging the nerves. Once a nerve is damaged it may be able to rejuvenate if not too far gone, it may not. My surgery was a salvage procedure only (I was informed that if I waited too much longer, I could suffer some paralysis versus nerve damage) -- and while the surgical area of the back feels much, much better, the radiating leg pain and nerve damage is permanent. Don't wait too long. The CT discogram is not only designed to see if it will reproduce pain, I think it is supposed to show how the disc is leaking if there are tears. See a neurosurgeon with an orthopaedic specialist as a colleague. Good luck.. 247wcpain

Old 11-07-2006, 08:04 PM   #7
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 140
michellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB Usermichellev1970 HB User
Re: Idet

I have had the pinched nerve for almost 3 years I have had nerve root blocks, epidural spinal injections and other non invasive treatments for it, I already have "electrical shocks" I don't know what they are called medically but they feel like a lightning bolt hitting my spine, I take Lyrica for that, my doctor is a spine specialist he specializes in non invasive treatment. I am taking oxy cotin, percocets, lyrica, and amitriptaline for this, I feel like I take too much medicine but if I don't take it then I am in constant pain. Honestly I feel like I am at the end of my rope, I realize there are a lot far worse off than I am but I just don't know what to do or what kind of doctor would I look for now?

Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
IDET / disc replacement eeyoretigger Back Problems 23 08-08-2011 09:01 AM
IDET not for tears?? Amy R. Back Problems 24 06-28-2004 09:22 PM
Post-IDET Report tennisnut Back Problems 117 04-06-2004 07:08 PM
post-IDET condition of disc? Telzey Back Problems 0 10-31-2003 11:29 AM
IDET and Nucleoplasty candidate seeking OBJECTIVE facts and stats gharari Candida 26 07-21-2003 08:09 PM
My chance to ask an expert about IDET tennisnut Back Problems 2 06-16-2003 03:11 PM
Had IDET and feeling better! dshull Back Problems 12 05-26-2003 10:18 PM
IDET update - 14 weeks post-op Telzey Back Problems 19 03-14-2003 07:31 PM
IDET article in Wall St. Journal This Week ruth ann Back Problems 2 02-20-2003 09:20 PM
Response to dshull's "Kali M - IDET" Kali M Back Problems 20 02-07-2003 06:43 PM

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is Off
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Sign Up Today!

Ask our community of thousands of members your health questions, and learn from others experiences. Join the conversation!

I want my free account

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:38 PM.

2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!