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Old 03-04-2007, 07:57 PM   #1
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lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

Tried almost everything for lower back pain with no relief - help!?
Can't seem to find solution to lower back pain.

Diagnoses: (1) mild stenosis, spondyleosis - L4 level, minimal annular bulging - MRI shows mild problem (2) neurologist - not neurlogical (2) back specialist - not significant problem (3) current diagnosis: pelvic misallingment rescribed excercises, losing weight, stress reduction, wear lift in left shoe as left leg 1/2 inch shorter

Failed remedies: (1) numerous incl. pain-killers (2400 mg ibuprofen/advil, oral steroids, muscle relaxants, viox, prioxicam, (2) conventional physical therapy, including electro-stim, hot and cold packs (3) currently, pelvic misallingment therapy has worsened problem, constant pain regardless of sitting.

Description of pain: originally only when long driving, later sciatica more recently lower back when sitting now sharp in lower back/butt all times.

Q: Suggestions? own experience? Continue leg inserts/current therapy? Acupuncture? Injections? Spinal decompression? Deep tissue massage? Other?

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Old 03-04-2007, 08:14 PM   #2
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

Well it sounds like structurally you're not in too bad shape and don't need surgery or anything like that.

Have you tried McKenzie's book "Treat Your Own Back"?
Also be aware all the time of your posture when sitting and standing. Be sure you have lumbar support when sitting for a long time.

That business about the misaligned pelvis and short leg sounds to me like a classic chiropractor's line. Did they tell you that you need 25 sessions to correct it? Personally, I don't believe that stuff about the short leg and pelvis misalignment. They all say that.

Old 03-04-2007, 09:55 PM   #3
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

You've already mentioned it, but for long drives of sitting , I use the cold pliable soft packs, the largest one covers tailbone and lower back. Thats the only remedy that works for me. I will also use biofreeze as a alternative too.

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Old 03-05-2007, 12:14 AM   #4
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

Hi Bobbie

If you find the solution to your lower back an butt pain let me know!!!

I have had chronic lower back pain for 2 years an have tried various things to relieve it.
An i have continuous pain in both buttocks,more so in the left side as i carnt lie on that side at all as is awkward sitting.

I have just been put on Gabapentin to see if that helps with the nerve pain.

Only time will tell!

Best wishes

Old 03-05-2007, 03:30 AM   #5
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

Walking as much as possible, swimming and pilates. Getting and keeping your core and the rest of you as strong as possible. Ofcourse if we have added weight its not going to help any part of our body,knees etc not just our backs.

That did sound like a chiro thing to me as well...were you seeing a pt or chiro?

I always have loved my heat packs that you warm in microwave.

Old 03-11-2007, 11:41 PM   #6
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

Thanks. A neurologist whom I earlier saw recommended Neurontin but I am already taking two antidepressants. Good luck!

Old 03-12-2007, 01:26 AM   #7
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

Bobbiedobbs!!! Not sure how I missed this post so I will definitely post now.

I had a fusion 23 years ago for s1/s2 for a transitional vertebrae and lived a great life until I did a cat walk with the darling munchkins 3 1/2 years ago and lets just say life has been a mess since. My MRI revealed spinal stenosis, osteocytes (bone spurs) and severe nerve compression at L5/S1. I tried the pain killers, pt, epidural injections and finally agreed to a laminectomy to decompress the nerves. My surgery was very lengthy and my surgeon thought all would be okay. I was so so for 3 months was bending to put dishes in the dishwasher and had severe pain that took me to my knees. Called the surgeon and we went thru the mri which revealed the the vertebrae had slipped forward from instability. We tried a selective nerve block and more meds with no success. The sciatia pain became worse and here I am sitting 5 weeks out from a spinal fusion at L5/S1.

When you say pain on driving, I was wondering if your leg ever collapses on getting out of the car? When you shop, do you find any relief bending over the grocery cart? When you sit, do you feel relief leaning forward? If so these are classic symptoms of spinal stenosis as well as the pain you are describing.

I would start with the least invasive which is typically what a surgeon/neurosurgeon would want to do. I have friend who does the deep tissue massages and swears by them. They help her control her pain and she has them done weekly. If that is all it takes to control your pain, you are very lucky and many back patients will be green with envy. The injections are painful and not a walk in the park but they might give you some much needed relief. Make sure it is done under fluroscopy.

You might consider giving pt a try too.

I had a laminectomy for spinal decompression and removal of bone spurs. This works for millions of people unfortunately in my case it resulted in unstability of the spine which is a common risk for this procedure. This surgery took me about 6 weeks to recover. Meaning able to resume my pre-surgical activities.

Unfortunately, due to the unstability I required the fusion.

I will lift you up in prayer that you are able to obtain some relief quickly. Take care.

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Old 03-20-2007, 07:39 PM   #8
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?


I'm new to this forum, but post on another chronic pain site regularly. I actually registered just now so I could reply to your post.

I have identical symptoms as yours (including the leg-length discrepancy), and followed an almost identical treatment plan for the last 3 years with zero success. Pain has gotten significantly worse for me the last 6 months. You said neurologist indicated no problems. Did he/she perform an EMG? I was finally diagnosed with a mild bulge at L4. Did surgery and found out I have 2 nerve roots at that location which take up too much space and are constantly impinged. Not much I can do except for major vertebra reconstruction on an otherwise healthy spine, or try spinal cord stimulation and other pain management. Although I don't have any real good options, at least I have a pretty good diagnosis, which was a big source of frustration for me, continually being treated for different things with no success, which it sounds like is happening to you as well.

Get an EMG if you haven't already. With the identical pain symptoms you have and indication of a problem at L4, I would be willing to bet your problem originates there. Best of luck to you.

Old 03-21-2007, 05:14 AM   #9
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Re: lower back/butt pain no relief - alt solutions?

I am not a doctor ok, but do not believe you should be on two different types of anti-depressants...that doesn't sound right to me. You might ask to be switched to the cymbalta only, it is for chronic pain, and nerve pain. They explained it to me that it works at the spinal cord, instead of like where a pain pill blocks stuff in the brain, the cymbalta trys to stop the spine from sending the pain signal to the brain.

It hasn't made it all go away, but has made a big difference for me.

Are you seeing a chiro? It sounded like some of the familiar things they would say...and when was your last mri?

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