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    Old 08-29-2008, 09:23 AM   #1
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    night time internal quivering

    I am a 46-year old female. Not overweight but not my normal healthy weight (20 pounds overweight) Don't take any medications. Don't drink coffee/tea. Sometimes eat chocolate...but not significantly anymore. Can't think of any changes in diet or environment. Experiencing for the last 4 weeks, night time internal quivering radiating down my limbs.

    Mystery to every specialist I've seen and my husband is a GP...never had a patient with this. Possibly pre-menopausal ---still menstuating on schedule. Had all blood work. Had EKG. Had 4 hour monitor (Getting results when I see cardiologist.) Saw a neurologist (looked at me like I needed paxil ---when I told him these symptoms). Gynocologist said these internal night time quiverings that radiate down my legs are not associated with menopausal symptoms that he knows of. Getting a echo of internal organs. Again, like many others commented, I have no outward noticeable shaking. Shaking starts just below rib cage in stomach or lower heart area (wakes me up), then radiates down legsand arms. Often I think it's a heart problem. Wake up my husband. Checks pulse. Sometimes...heart rate is quiet. Check pulse at neck..Hard to get an immediate reading because I can't get husband up quickly enough for a medical or objective opinion.

    I give up...don't know what's happening but it scares me, especially when it's such a mystery. Happens two to three times a night. Feels more blood flow like rather than nervous system. Maybe someone out there can help.

     
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    Old 08-29-2008, 07:13 PM   #2
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hi Modi~

    If I'm understanding you right, I get internal quivering all the time in my legs. Its like a vibrator inside. I also get muscle twitches that are constant.

    When these slight symptoms started happening and I saw a neurologist for the 1st time, he thought I was nuts!! He was very quick to blame it on stress and depression which I was not willing to do. I knew that something was happening to my body that wasn't normal.

    So I went through several Dr's and each would perform tests saying there was nothing showing. It took me a very long time but I stood my ground and finally got a clear diagnosis of Chiari Malformation this year.

    I'm in no way telling you that this is whats wrong but there are diseases out there that are hard to diagnose and Dr's can hit a dead end. So If you feel something is going on that is not normal, keep searching until you can find answers. Its very difficult and scary when you don't know why things are happening to your body. And it eases your mind when you finally get the answers your looking for. Even if the answers you find are difficult to hear.

    The one thing that is great is you have a hubby who is in the medical field so if it was something seriously affecting your health, he would be picking up on it. Count you blessings there!!

    I wish you luck and hope you find some answers soon!!

    Take care and find time to relax. Stress is the worste thing for us. It just adds to everything else!!

    Cindy

     
    Old 09-02-2008, 07:37 PM   #3
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    What y'all are describing sounds like one of my sypmtoms that I think is connected with nerve damage (peripheral neuropathy), for which no cause has ever been found (they haven't even tried to find a cause). In my case I suspect it's probably due to mercury toxicity from dental fillings. Unfortunately getting mercury out of nerve tissue safely could take longer than I may have left, so I may never know.

     
    Old 09-03-2008, 08:37 AM   #4
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    MODI,
    I have that exact same symptom plus alot more. Have you been checked for a vitamin deficiency (like B vitamins) or excess of heavy metals? I have candida and I am not sure if any of this is coming from the candida or not.
    I wish you lots of luck.


    kcpef,
    Have you tried benonite clay baths? I am going to try these, because I too showed up with heavy metals.
    I wish you lots of luck.


    mmee

     
    Old 09-03-2008, 03:33 PM   #5
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    hi modi,
    I have had the night-time events that you are describing. Just one question, do you have visual changes, like flashing lights, associated with these events?
    If not that would make us a little different. My events were caused by chemical solvent poisoning. I now feel that these events were my small fiber nerves being damaged and destroyed. Essentially an over stimulation of the nervous system. Once I left the toxic environment, I have never had another one of these events. However, I am left with permanent damage to my nerves and symptoms like constant numbness, cramps, tingling, muscle twitches, pain, and burning. Are any of these things occurring? There are many things that can effect the small fiber nerves. Hope this helps.
    allie

     
    Old 09-03-2008, 09:04 PM   #6
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Check out this thread in the Menopause topic, "Internal Trembling and Shaking" : [url]http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=624271[/url]

    An internal quivering sensation is a common symptom of menopause and peri-menopause.

    Essential Tremor and Parkinson's both have internal tremors as a possible early symptom.

     
    Old 09-15-2008, 06:59 PM   #7
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    Re: night time internal quivering

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    What y'all are describing sounds like one of my sypmtoms that I think is connected with nerve damage (peripheral neuropathy), for which no cause has ever been found (they haven't even tried to find a cause). In my case I suspect it's probably due to mercury toxicity from dental fillings. Unfortunately getting mercury out of nerve tissue safely could take longer than I may have left, so I may never know.
    Hi There
    It would be prudent to have your B12 levels done I have periphal neuropathy from this not to mention a load of other symptoms.....By the way if you think it is mecury , mecury blocks B12 in the blood brain barrier...Although I know many with no amalgam fillings and they have this problem
    Ask for a B12 serum, uMMA, Homocystiene blood tests the last 2 will be elevated with B12 deficiency even if the B12 serum is normal your B12 should never fall below 550 according to the experts in Japan in US & AS normal is above 180 rubbish I had symptoms at 372 & my problem didnt get picked up until it was 130 severely low....I am on treatment hoping my nerve damage can be repaired at least I can now think clearly and no memory problems or GI problems...Want more info happy to help
    Cheers

     
    Old 10-12-2008, 01:44 PM   #8
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    get onto dr hal huggins

    he will sort it out

     
    Old 10-16-2008, 09:25 PM   #9
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hey there,

    My mother had these exact symptoms when she went through menopause. You might want to get your hormone levels checked out. She went to biofeedback which helped somewhat. Sounds crazy and I havent hit that "time" yet but it did work for her.

    Maybe try a menopause forum to see if others are having these symptoms.

     
    Old 10-17-2008, 07:57 AM   #10
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    As I've posted on the menopause boards, an advanced search of all open boards reveals that some men, women, and children of all ages experience this phenomenon...and as far as I know, men and children don't go through menopause.

    Although these people posts on many different boards, the most useful information I have found addressing these symptoms has been on the Lyme Disease boards...some people with Lyme's present with shaking/trembling/purring/vibrating/a motor feeling....and these symptoms disappear with extensive antibiotic treatment.

    I have not read of anyone on other boards finding a cure for their symptoms.

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    Old 10-17-2008, 08:00 AM   #11
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hi Bethsheba~

    I just wanted to add my 2 cents

    I get these symptoms as well (shaking/trembling/purring/vibrating/a motor feeling....) It is common in chiari too.

     
    Old 10-18-2008, 03:54 AM   #12
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hi
    What is chiari?

     
    Old 10-18-2008, 04:41 AM   #13
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hi

    I hope Cindy will come & visit again she is a expert on chairi ( I hope I spelt that right) and has some really good advice to offer.......

    I just wanted to chime in on this one.........This apperas to be one of those common symptoms really that relate to many disorders/diseases....in particular CNS.........I had alll tose kind of sensations I would actually feel like I was a motor all revved up but I couldnt go to fatigued that revving quivering feeling so strange.......Any way mine has gone I was B12 deficient and the Methylcobalamin fixed it up thankfully............I am not saying it is only from this as Cindy gets it too....

    I wouldnt be surprised if someone with perimenopause or menopause would have it for some changes in hormones can really affect them.......I t could be worth considering that many menopausal women are low in B12 among many other essentials this could ompact the change perhaps.......

    There are just soooo many things that can cause this sensation isnt there were does one begin LOL

     
    Old 10-18-2008, 06:37 AM   #14
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hi Susan and Rainbows end~

    Chiari is a brain disorder that presents itself with symptoms that mimic Lyme, Ms, B12 defiency as well as many others. It affects the nerves in the brain and spinal cord causing many neurological symptoms. It is called a "rare" disorder but is much more common than we think. Dr's are just not well versed in it and radiologists over look this quite frequently on MRI's. My own MRI was "normal" But I found it by chance examining my own MRI.

    The back of the brain is being squeezed into the hole in the skull, compressing the nerves in the spinal cord and can cause an obstruction of CFS flow to the brain.

    This drop in the brain can be caused from the skull not being large enough ( a birth defect) and head trauma such as a car accident, fall, and even child birth can cause the brain to sink further down.

    For me, I was rear ended a few years back, bringing me an onset of symptoms. I had a lumbar punture last October that just really set things in motion for me. A LP is not recommended with chiari. Unfortunately, I found out to late

    So, this does cause the internal quivering as well. But with this, just as any of the other diseases that affect the nervous system, its no wonder. I get a feeling like theres a vibrater under my skin, in my legs and feet. Not painful but definately annoying and it does make you question whats going on with our bodies.

    So if we question whats happening, we must take our health into our own hands when Dr's are telling us its nothing. And know this is not normal.

    I hope everyone has a great weekend!!

    Cindy

     
    Old 10-19-2008, 08:10 AM   #15
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    Re: night time internal quivering

    Hi Cindy
    I just wanted to thank you for your time to answer what chiari is. I am 38 and from what I have been reading on these health boards it sounds like I should be having some hormone testing. I now will ask my dr. about chiari. I never thought I would feel so awful at this age. For the last four months I have been going back and forth to doctors and all they tell me is that it's anxiety. If I hear that one more time I will lose it! Thank you for your advice. This vibration is taking everything from me. This feeling is so scary and no one seems to recognize it. Hope to hear from anyone who is experiencing this same awful sensation. Susan

     
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