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    Old 11-04-2009, 09:48 AM   #1
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    Question What should I do if I have these symptoms?

    A major thanks to anybody who reads this whole thing. You'll be helping calm the nerves of someone who is getting a bit nervous about this stuff.

    I'm a generally healthy 24yo male; I regularly excercise, haven't had any major health problems in the past. My diet isn't the greatest, but it's certainly not the worst.


    I have no idea if any or all of these are related. Just looking for some advice on where to go next to make sure I get back to normal.


    a) Over the past 2 years, I've been having minor muscle spasms when going to bed. They don't happen every night, but if they do, it's usually a few times before I fall asleep (I don't know if they continue when I sleep). I'll flail out an arm, or kick out a leg, or have something in my upper back make me shrug. Occasionally I catch myself involuntarily making noises too, usually just a "uhhhhhh" sound right as I'm about to fall asleep and it'll wake me back up.

    b) I've been feeling "pins and needles" all over my body randomly for a few weeks now. Normally it's just the arms and legs. Sometimes it's the hands. I can't seem to find a pattern of when it happens versus what I'm doing, etc. But it happens everyday. On rare occasion (for the time being?), it has gone into my face or jaw.

    I can't do anything putting much pressure on anything without triggering it. Normally I cross a leg over the other knee. My whole life I could do this for longer periods of time before I had to switch legs; now I get pins and needles very easily. Same if I put my head on my hand (leaning on a desk or something), or try and cross my arms and put my head on them. I most frequently sleep on my side (either or), followed second by sleeping on my back. I can't sleep on my sides at all now without it getting all pins and needles in my upper body.

    c) I've been tasting metal recently. First was a few seconds long, last night was a few hours, and now I woke up with it.

    d) Along with b), my muscles feel drained. Namely my arms, but it can happen everywhere, and randomly. Sometimes it's more specified; one day I was carrying a grocery bag (singular) in each hand, and my arms felt exhausted afterward. The next day, I was carrying about 10 bags in each hand, and they were fine. But it'll just happen when I'm walking around, or sitting doing nothing.

    e) General fatigue. The past few months I've just been fatigued. Doesn't matter how much sleep I get. I've been a bit better with trying to force a regimented schedule (go to sleep and get up around the same times), but I still can easily take naps after having been up for only 10 hours or so.

    f) My mouth occasionally just hurts in general. I've always been great about dental care (I brush twice a day, floss once, and go to the dentist regularly), although I do have 3 or 4 silver fillings from when I was little and NOT good about dental stuff.

    g) Occasionally I get a weird ringing in my ears. Rare, but I've not noticed it before.

    h) This one has been more of a lifelong thing, but I have a pretty terrible memory, and maybe I'm just noticing it more because I'm paying so much attention to what's going on with my body lately, but at least once a day I'll forget something I was about to say, or do something like go in the kitchen and forget what it was I wanted, etc. It's always little things, but, in the event that might have any bearing on what might be going on, thought I'd list that.

    Now here's the other factors of my story that help confuse me.


    I like working out; I normally go every other day (usually 3 or 4 days a week). I take some supplements and vitamins;

    Normally it's just a weight gainer protein powder (often mixed with creatine, although I've been off the crreatine for a few weeks now), a multivitamin, glucosamine, fish oil, and a protein bar snack thing.

    One day a few weeks back though I tried this supplement stack with "P6", "M5", and "R3" from Cellucor (bought it at GNC). I tried what the GNC guy said for dosage, and that evening, I had my first pins and needles everywhere experience; I was restless, and in the morning my chest hurt (for a few seconds I was really nervous I might be having a heart attack since my chest hurt and my arms were all pins and needles), I was a bit shakey, and I was a bit emotional. The "P6" is the likely culprit, as it is a testosterone booster. Needless to say, I took it all back, fought for what refund I could, and yelled at the guy.

    I stopped taking all supplements to try and flush my system out. Seemed to work, but after 1 week, I was back to feeling the pins and needles, and now all the other symptoms listed above.

    A major question I've been wondering is are all the things above because of some horrible reaction to the supplement? Or is the fact that I had the first case of pins and needles after taking the supplement a coincidence?

    I went to the clinic and told the doc all of this. He ran a blood test, and it came back normal and apparently healthy for a 24yo male - good cholesterol, normal blood pressure, normal chemical levels. He has suggested I go to a neurologist.

    He thinks perhaps I have a pinched nerve, and I probably shouldn't worry too much about it. Just take it easier at the gym, etc.

    Most of my family and friends think it's probably all stress related (I've been having scheduling problems with some acting-related work; I'm in LA; money issues, etc.). I don't -think- I'm stressed about any of that; I mean, in the general sense sure, but I'm not thinking about that stuff all the time like I do when I worry about other stuff.

    *whew*

    If you made it this far, I thank you profusely. Any thoughts on what I should do next (I'm unable to get to the neurologist for a while...) or what I should be looking into would be much appreciated. A few friends have even suggested acupuncture, although I know little about that or its effectiveness.


    It might by cyclical; it could just be the symptoms are from stress, but then I stress about the symptoms, making them worse, making me worry more... etc.

    Could also be something I need to get checked out as soon as possible.

    Anyway. Thanks for any ideas or suggestions.

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    Old 11-05-2009, 08:05 PM   #2
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    Re: What should I do if I have these symptoms?

    hey nervousdude

    hmmmmmmm...a lot going on...okay so all your sx started after the new supplements or just the pins 'n needles sx started then?

    Yes a neurologist would be the type of doc to go to now.You said your diet isn't the best....so that could cause a lot of your health issues right there.Was your magnesium at a good level?I hope your dr. did a thorough checking on your blood labs....sometimes they say they checked everything,but they really don't.

    So you have inconsistent muscle spasms...are they spasms or fasiculations(irritating slight muscle twitching that feels annoying especially when sitting ot laying down and you can actually see the twitching)?

    I'm not a dr. or an expert,but you are describing many sx that are cocsistent with a low B12 level.You need a direct B12 level test and an MMA(methylmalonic acid)test.....you can look up symptoms of low B12 in the search here and find many posts where I've listed the sx of low B12.

    Try not to worry yourself on this,but I'm glad you're going to see a neuro,but don't expect them to give you all the answers...that's why it's good to go prepared with your own questions and information...nowadays you have to be your own advocate in getting a dr. to listen to you and do the right tests.

    I wish you well...post back anytime and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have about your symptoms and low B12.Take Care~

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    Old 11-05-2009, 10:34 PM   #3
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    Re: What should I do if I have these symptoms?

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    hey nervousdude

    hmmmmmmm...a lot going on...okay so all your sx started after the new supplements or just the pins 'n needles sx started then?

    Yes a neurologist would be the type of doc to go to now.You said your diet isn't the best....so that could cause a lot of your health issues right there.Was your magnesium at a good level?I hope your dr. did a thorough checking on your blood labs....sometimes they say they checked everything,but they really don't.

    So you have inconsistent muscle spasms...are they spasms or fasiculations(irritating slight muscle twitching that feels annoying especially when sitting ot laying down and you can actually see the twitching)?


    I wish you well...post back anytime and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have about your symptoms and low B12.Take Care~

    Scout
    First, thank you so much for a response! It's very much appreciated.

    The first case of pins and needles was the night I took the P6 supplement, so I thought it was a reaction to that. The fact that it's still going weeks later made me think perhaps it was a coincidence, or maybe I'm just having a -really- bad reaction...; the spasms has been over the last two years, they are full on spasms (my arm will lift up, or my leg will kick out, or my back will tighten up and make me shrug). They are very short, and usually it happens two or three times (leg, arm, back). Then it'll stop. It's just annoying because they usually happen right on the cusp of sleep, and it jolts me awake again.

    As for the blood test; he ran a "full blood panel". I can post the results if you like, or at least list each of the things accounted for (to see if it was a full test). It's a bunch of numbers and stuff; the doc said they're all normal, and from what I can see on the internet, each number seems to be normal.

    I'll look into the B12 stuff and see what comes up.

    Thanks again for the info thus far! I'll post back as I find things out...

    Still nervous; my ankles and hands feel kinda like their not getting enough circulation.

    I'm working on the diet; in terms of liquid, I'd say I'm 70% water, 15% milk, 15% fruit juice (my fave being v8 acai berry). I don't drink any soda, coffee, or alcohol.

    Food stuffs; lot of lunch meat sandwiches (i.e. turkey on wheat, with a slice of provolone); lot of cereal (cracklin oat bran!); lot of tuna; fruits and veggies when they're available. I'm kinda poor, so it's tough shopping healthy all the time. Problem might be a lot of processed foods or stuff with preservatives (I'm trying to avoid), but a couple frozen food things I like.

    I'm extra nervous because I can't get to a neuro for a while (hopefully Tuesday, but work might dictate otherwise), and if it's something that could possibly get worse with time, I obviously wanna pinpoint it and start reversing it right away.

    The internet is a scary place when you look up symptoms; I could have anything from being as simple as a vitamin deficiency, to diabetes, to cancer, to "hurry up or you'll have to amputate!" O_o

    Thanks again so much for the response It helped calm be a bit. Hope you have a wonderful rest of your week!

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    Old 11-27-2009, 04:32 AM   #4
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    Re: What should I do if I have these symptoms?

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