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    Old 02-14-2020, 07:13 AM   #1
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    Carbon ion treatment

    Another form of possible treatment that is once again denied to us in the U.S.

    https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/carbon-ion-therapy-cancer-treatment-available-us

    https://www.wired.com/story/why-a-promising-potent-cancer-therapy-isnt-used-in-the-us/

     
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    Old 02-14-2020, 07:32 AM   #2
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    Re: Carbon ion treatment

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    Another form of possible treatment that is once again denied to us in the U.S.

    https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/carbon-ion-therapy-cancer-treatment-available-us

    https://www.wired.com/story/why-a-promising-potent-cancer-therapy-isnt-used-in-the-us/
    The article cites the reason:

    "The trouble is in how research has been conducted so far. The highest-quality studies require patients to be randomly assigned to particle-based or standard radiation, and in most of the existing studies—in Japan, China, or Europe—researchers made that selection; it wasn’t done randomly. Different centers use different protocols, making comparisons difficult. And the lack of carbon ion centers in the US poses a logistical challenge for American researchers."

    It's a negatively reinforcing loop: the lack of good data make getting funds difficult for the very expensive set up; the lack of centers impedes gold-standard research. I see Japanese studies dating back at least to 2004. I would note that we're still trying to figure out if proton therapy confers an advantage over other forms of RT.

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    Old 02-14-2020, 09:47 AM   #3
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    Re: Carbon ion treatment

    Expecting insurance to pay for unproven 'silver bullets' may be unreasonable, but good luck!
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    Old 02-14-2020, 10:50 AM   #4
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    Re: Carbon ion treatment

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    Expecting insurance to pay for unproven 'silver bullets' may be unreasonable, but good luck!
    Clinical Trials and risk takers are why many improvements and advances have been and are being made in Cancer treatment.

    Can't prove the treatment here without the trials here in the U.S.
    If someone can afford the treatment with private pay they should not be denied the right to access just because we live in the U.S.

    The article also pointed out as usual its all about the money. $200 Million invested in Proton and would take $300 Million investment for Carbon Ion.
    I would not be surprised if the Proton Centers are Lobbying AGAINST Carbon Ion in the U.S. because of the possible threat to their business.

     
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