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    Old 06-25-2009, 08:42 PM   #1
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    Does anyone have any experience with HIFU


    I am considering HIFU as a way to destroy my prostate cancer.

    Does anyone have any experience with this procedure?


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    Re: Does anyone have any experience with HIFU

    Hi again Eventod,

    I'm mildly skeptical about HIFU as I indicated a few minutes ago on your other thread, but that's mainly because I think it still is maturing as a therapy, not because of a fundamental flaw.

    I hope you get some replies from those with first hand experience, but most of us also like to know the odds as established by formal medical research that has been published in peer reviewed medical journals, and there's an awesome and simple way to do just that. Here's how to get that information for HIFU.

    First, go to "PubMed,", the free public medical research access tool provided by the US Government's National Institutes of Health (NIH) through its National Library of Medicine. We can use that site on this board because it is Government sponsored.

    Then enter a search string you think will dig out your results, such as " prostate cancer AND HIFU " (skip the quotation marks). I just did that and got 151 hits!

    Then pick the titles that look promising, and for those that have abstracts, click on the blue hypertext list of authors to view a free copy of the abstract. Sometimes you will also be given a free link to the complete paper itself, the link usually offered with green text.

    Then proceed to be bewildered and confused by some of the medical terminology - after all, this stuff is written by and primarily for doctors and medical researchers, but enlightened by enough of the text to make the search worthwhile most of the time. I've been at this a while now and can probably help explain some of the confusing descriptions and statistics you will encounter.

    As a sample, here's the citation and conclusion from one Italian study, hit #8 as of today, which happens to offer a free link to the entire paper. The study involved 25 patients at different risk levels treated between May 2006 to April 2007. That means the followup period for assessing success was quite short. Here it is:

    "High Intensity Focused Ultrasound (HIFU): a useful alternative choice in prostate cancer treatment. Preliminary results."
    Maestroni U, Ziveri M, Azzolini N, Dinale F, Ziglioli F, Campaniello G, Frattini A, Ferretti S.
    Acta Biomed. 2008 Dec;79(3):211-6.

    "... CONCLUSIONS: We demonstrated that HIFU represents a useful alternative choice in mini-invasive therapy of prostate cancer. Particularly, results are remarkable in localized (low-intermediate risk) and low morbility prostate cancer. The role of this procedure in high risk patients needs to be further evaluated. Transrectal HIFU represents a mini-invasive therapeutic option that makes the treatment of prostate cancer possible in 84% of cases. Our results agree with the literature data and demonstrate that the success of the procedure depends on the correct indication of treatment and is strictly related to progression risk parameters." (Note that their success was 94% for low-risk cases.)

    Take care and hang in there as you cope with the flood of information,


    Old 06-28-2009, 09:39 AM   #3
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    Thx Jim, your comments and reference ponits are much appreciated as I continue to decide what action to take.

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    Re: Does anyone have any experience with HIFU

    I throughly research HIFU when I was exploring treatment options for my cancer. I read some message boards and websites where you could contact men and based on those discussions I eliminated HIFU from my list. Some of the men had some very bad experiences particularly rectum problems. It could depend on where you get it done but I was just turned off by these bad experiences I heard from men and decided it was not a viable option for me. It is also very new and there are no long term studies on outcomes.

    I can't provide you on this board the websites I used to contact men but if you search hard enough you can find thme. I would urge you to contact men who have had it done and see what they say and get their opinions. I did that with all forms of treatment before I decided to go with proton radiation at UFPTI in Jacksonville and am very glad I chose proton.

    Good luck on your research but be sure to take your time as prostate cancer is very slow growing and you do not have to rush your decision. I did 4 months of daily research before I made my decision. Also, I learned to be skeptical of what the local doctors told me and found without exception that they recommended what they did, either surgery if the were surgeons, or conventioinal seeds or radiation if they were radiologists.

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