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    Old 03-23-2004, 03:42 PM   #1
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    severe cough in 9 month old

    My daughter has had a bad cough & cold for about 3 days. I took her to the md but all she said was "give cough medicine and decongestants"... well it's not helping. My daughter still has a rough raspy cough that makes it difficult to breathe. We tried steaming her in the bathroom but our hot water isn't that hot and we need to keep the light in the bathroom off (its connected to the fan, and shes afraid of the dark)... we dont really have the money for a humidifier either.. what can we do?

     
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    Old 03-24-2004, 06:52 AM   #2
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    Is she breathing really fast? More than 40 breaths per minutes when sleeping? Sort of panting, lots and lots of congestion? I've heard that RSV (respiratory synctial virus) is going around and it can be nasty. Your doctor can do a test to see if she has it -- they suck out the boogers from her nose and test it. Coworker's child ended up being hospitalized because of it and they had to do nebulizer treatments for a couple of weeks to help him breathe.

     
    Old 03-24-2004, 12:36 PM   #3
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    I want to urge you to take her back to the doctor if you feel she is not improving. My daughters pediatrician would do the same thing to me. The first time, I let it go and thought well........the doc said it was just a cold......well, the cold turned into pneumonia. I can't tell you how many times I have had a doctor tell me my daughter had a cold or it is viral and she has ended up with pneumonia. She is now seeing an asthma/allergy specialist who is much more agressive and thorough in his treatments. Just follow you instincts. If you think she needs to be seen again........take her. I wish you the best......I hope your daughter feels better soon!

     
    Old 03-24-2004, 01:11 PM   #4
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    I absolutely HATE it when the doctors say "it's nothing, it's just a virus". Sorry, influenza is a virus, RSV is a virus and people have gotten very very sick from those illnesses.

    My son was hospitalised at birth for 4 weeks. We got him home ONE night and he started refusing food, throwing up... He ended up on IV antibiotics for 10 days in the hospital. Took a look at his chart one day -- they'd written -- parents concerned child wouldn't eat. Made us look like morons, but if he wasn't sick, then why was he on heavy doses of antibiotics several times a day for two weeks?

     
    Old 03-24-2004, 05:00 PM   #5
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    Well, her breathing is faster than usual but not really really fast... she's still coughing and that and the snots are interfering with her breathing and eating so I'm going to take her to the Hospital tomorrow since I know my md won't do anything about it.

     
    Old 03-24-2004, 05:28 PM   #6
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

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    Well, her breathing is faster than usual but not really really fast... she's still coughing and that and the snots are interfering with her breathing and eating so I'm going to take her to the Hospital tomorrow since I know my md won't do anything about it.
    I am glad to hear that you will be having her looked at again and by someone else. Good luck and let us know what happens.

     
    Old 03-24-2004, 09:17 PM   #7
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    More important than how fast she is breathing is how hard she is breathing. You want to look for retractions at her ribs and in her throat. Kids can only struggle to breathe for so long before they start getting lethargic and tired.

    Kids also breathe faster when they can only breathe out of their nose or mouth. I still hold my son down and use the bulb syringe on his nose if need be. If you can't get your water hot enough, you can boil some and take it into the bathroom. If the room is small enough, you can put a towel under the door and have the same effect as if you used the shower.

    There are also Tussive formulas that can be used on both infections and viruses. It helps to control the cough. Good luck tomorrow and I hope she gets to feeling better
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    Old 03-25-2004, 06:14 AM   #8
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    I've read to also pay attention to the nostrils. They will flare if the child is having a hard time breathing.

     
    Old 03-25-2004, 06:52 AM   #9
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    I'm sooo glad you're going in for a second opinion. It could be something as simple as a head cold and the mucus from your child's nose running down the throat and causing the cough. You just hate to see these poor little guys not being able to sleep or eat because of it.

    Had to break out the saline drops and bulb syringe myself this morning 'cuz DS had a bit of congestion last night. He's so used to it know he giggles. The first hundred times we had to do it, I swear he thought he was being butchered.

     
    Old 03-25-2004, 07:06 AM   #10
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    Well, I was going to take her to the hospital today... she woke herself (and me) at 530 this am coughing like she had emphesyma! It was sooo hard... So I got dressed, bundled her up and went down to the er... she has mild bronchitis in one lung and is now on Zithromax for 5 days. Then I have to go check with my pediatrician... hopefully she will be ok!

     
    Old 03-25-2004, 07:48 AM   #11
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    DS had bronchitis as 2 months. Took him in to the doctor and was told it was a normal cough. Called the nurse 'cuz I still wasn't happy and was told it was probably nasal congestion running down his throat -- to use saline and the bulb syringe. Which we did anyway 'cuz of sinus problems. Poor kid coughed so hard I had to hold him over the sink 'cuz he'd hurl all his formula. Had a follow up appointment with a different doctor on a different issue and the minute we walked in the door he said -- that's bronchitis. Gave us a bunch of prescriptions, took a throat culture and told us if we hadn't come in when we did, he would've had to have been hospitalised again.

     
    Old 03-26-2004, 06:11 AM   #12
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    Update! She's doing a little better today.. shes very cranky All she wants when I'm there is her "mamamamama" and when daddy gets home, that's it, she wants him. She can't really hold down solids right now bc shes coughing so much she pukes... so the md limited her to baby cereal, cheerios, zwieback, formula, water, and pedialyte. hope it works!

     
    Old 03-26-2004, 06:50 AM   #13
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    Severe cough can be a sign of chemical exposure

    This must be very frightening for your family to see one so young with severe cough. Something doctors don't think of; but which is very real, is the effect chemicals have on people. Other Symptoms below.

    Can you think of things that were different when this cough started? Did you paint her bedroom? ... start using some room fresheners? ... use something different in the cleaning/degreasing? Like spray your oven with cleaner?

    Children are more affected by chemicals (as are the elderly) Please give this serious thought. What is different now, than before she started coughing? How long has this been going on? Maybe start washing her clothes in ivory instead of harsher cleaning compounds? What do you use to clean her when you give her a bath?

    I reflect on a couple whose 2 week baby died by her organs shutting down one by one, starting with her liver ... there was no explanation given by the doctors.

    But a chemical such as 2-butoxyethanol, that is in frequent use in paints/cleaners, etc ... if someone gets too much of it, that is what can happen

    I can remember 2 instances of groups of people with cough
    • (sounded like a TB ward) during the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup - sleeping quarters;
    • and a gulf war vet group cleaning trucks/equipment for 10 days continuously with DAWN.

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    Symptoms of too much of any chemical: 'symptoms of too much of a chemical exposure... flu-like symptoms, etc'.

    Symptoms in order of most frequency: "(most common first) include: headache, sore throat, voice change or loss, constant humph, catarrh, unexpected tiredness, fatigue, sore/watery/gritty eyes, irritability, anxiety, depression, loss of concentration, short-term memory loss, reactions to other chemicals, dizziness, blocked nose, rhinitis, mouth ulcers, bad/metallic taste in mouth, lip sores, chest tightness, shortness of breath, chest pains, asthma, sinusitis, nasal discharge, nose bleeds, ulceration of nasal mucosa, itchy burning skin, rashes, dermatitis, aching joints and muscles, fibromyalgia, uncontrollable twitching, heart arrhythmia's, palpitations, abdominal pain, nausea, diarrhea, tinnitus, earache, pins and needles, numbness in fingers and toes, Raynaudís Syndrome, menstrual irregularities, pain/difficulty urinating. Other areas of concern include liver damage, cancer, teeth and gum problems, reproductive effects and lack of interest in sex.

    Everyone should have this posted where they can check for new 'signals' your body is giving you .... that you may have a chemical exposure.
    Now, if you are not doing anything differently, is there something going on in your community? What manufacturing are you near? What work does your husband do? Maybe there is some 'second hand solvent exposure' occurring? If not from you ... how about from others who care for her?

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    Old 03-26-2004, 07:56 AM   #14
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    ok you just really scared me... until I remembered that nothing in our house is out of the ordinary. we wash her clothes in dreft, i do the house cleaning with the gentlest stuff i can, and i do it when she is out of the house (usually sat, when she is at her aunt's and wont be back till sun afternoon).... so i know its not that but thanks for the eye-opener!

     
    Old 03-27-2004, 02:40 PM   #15
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    Re: severe cough in 9 month old

    you said you couldnt afford it but a vicks vaporizer (with the inhalent stuff) is at walmart for only 10 dollars....maybe you could look there...good luck

     
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