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    Old 05-02-2007, 06:28 AM   #1
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    Question Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome??

    I have a 2 month old....when in dim light , his pupils are Unequal--which is a condition called Anisocoria (affects 20% of the population). Most of the time, nothing is wrong, just an abnormality that does not affect his sight or his health in anyway. I have an older child with it and he has an Uncle with it, so I am assuming it can be genetic. My Newborn, though, his is MORE noticalbe-like possibly more than 2mm difference. SO I am worried. He has no other symptoms yet. I know the Pediatrician will probably recommend taking him to a Specialist to rule out Horners Syndrome , which would mean dialating his eyes with special drops, etc. ANyone been through this, I am weary of taking him when he is so very young. Just want to hear from other parents who are familair with Un equal Pupils, and your stories, your advice. Thank you. His eyes contrict to bright light just fine and also dialate, it is just they do not dialate as MUCh as the other eye. And it is very noticalbe in Dim light.

     
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    Old 05-02-2007, 07:32 AM   #2
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    I'm in my 40s and have always had this. My parents took me to doctors, eye doctors, who didn't find anything wrong. Guess I'm must abnormally normal.

     
    Old 05-02-2007, 08:06 AM   #3
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    Can you tell me more, how big of a difference in your pupil (less than 1mm , 2mm, etc difference) , it is only noticable in DIM light? Any other family members have it? Has it affected your vision at all ? Thanks for the fast reply!

     
    Old 05-02-2007, 08:19 AM   #4
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    I have weak muscles that do not allow me to contract as much as necessary and my focal contraction is not even.. my mother and the other blue/hazel eyed members of my family have it.. as does my four year old son.. So I suspect it is genetically linked.

    Or vision is excellent.. Our focus response time in bright light is slow. This is a common problem in light pigment eyed individuals.. so said my neuro opthamologist.

    You can do focal excercises to strengthen it some and avoid muscle relaxers, but other than that you just live with it. Take a pencil focus on the end.. move the pencil near and far repeatedly in a fluid motion allowing for the focus to remain constant. Eventually focal response speed will increase and focal ability will homogenize.

    Upside.. great night vision and no need for eye dilation during eye exams.

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    Old 05-02-2007, 08:53 AM   #5
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    ********: Your situation sounds like the opposite of what my newborns is.. his one pupil only dialates so far and quits-- Both restrict perfectly , fastly and when restricted, they look the same. The only thing I believe my son can have is " simple Anisocoria" (I hope), or this Horners Syndrome with other symptoms(so far he has not shown). What is your condition called with the slow restricting--involving the muscles?

     
    Old 05-02-2007, 09:08 AM   #6
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    Ugh! I can not remember the name that the weak eye muscles was called.. I do remember being diagnosed with hormonally induced migraines at the same time.. I will try and dig it up and add it to this via edit later.

    Got it.. it is an auto-immune response. Similar to or mild Myasthenia Gravis. Basically I have a hyperactive immune system and my body gets bored and attacks it self on occasion. In the case of my eyes the immune system will block and interfere with the ocular muscle receptors.

    As long as I keep my allergies in check things seem to be better other than the slow focal response.

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    Old 05-02-2007, 10:01 AM   #7
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    My son is 7.5 and I just found out he has unequal pupils. He failed his eye test at school and was referred to an eye doctor and that's how I found out. I had never noticed before, but I did notice that his eyes looked different in photos. The doctor said his eyes are functioning normally and it is nothing to be concerned about. She said that if he ever gets a head injury to make sure that the doctors know about his pupils being different because they will think it is something serious and run all kinds of tests on him.

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    Old 05-02-2007, 11:32 AM   #8
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    Mom22, I can not imagine not noticing that by the age of 7, it must be a really slight difference in pupil size then? Did he see Just a regular eye Doctor and how did this Doctor know he had this since birth? I am worried about them wanting to send my baby to a specialist and getting his eyes Dialated? Did your son have to go thru that? Or just a simple Eye test? Is the difference only seen when in Dim light? Thanks

     
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    I was quite surprised. Like I said I have noticed in pictures that his eyes looked a little different. One eye looks smaller than the other. From what I understand, it is because when the flash goes off, one eye tries to shut before the other to compensate for the difference. I don't know why the pediatrician has not noticed either, and I will be questioning it the next time I see them. It must be pretty slight. I can stare at his pupils for as long as he will let me (which is not too long, he says "C'mon, Mom!") and I still can't see the difference. The eye doctor (optometrist) noticed right away and spent a lot of time making sure they were functioning properly and reacting to light in the right way. She said if I had not mentioned that I have noticed it in pictures, she would have been more concerned. I guess that is how she knew he has had it since birth. I brought out all the pictures I had in my wallet and had her look at them all and she could see the difference in the pics. I had her send her report to his pediatrician and I called his ped. to check if he has to have further testing. They do not feel he does. No, he did not have his eyes dilated, but I don't know what kind of tests if any they will want to do with your baby's eyes. Wishing you the best. Let me know how it goes.

    Edited to add: Can you tell me what Horner's Syndrome is? Is there any other symptoms?

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    Old 05-02-2007, 02:44 PM   #10
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    The size difference with mine is fairly significant. Don't notice it as much when I'm in brighter light. Up until quite recently -- I've had perfect vision. Ended up needing reading glasses a year or so ago when I was in my late 30s.

     
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    I have been reading days about Horner's Syndrome, I guess we can not put links on here, so I will try to relate what I have read. Can always do a search on the net for more info, even pictures. It always has the Unequal pupils with the affected one being the smaller in Dim light. (they ususually look the same in bright light) It is a muscle problem that affects the iris from diating --PLUS has other symptoms--which make it Horners.... usually droopy eyelids, lack of facial sweating -which can cause that side of the face to be redder, and if present at birth, often the smaller eyes iris is a LIGHTER color than the normal eye. If Horners is present at BIRTH, there is less chance of anything being seriously wrong, but if gotten at a later time -suddenly for example -after always having normal pupils, it usually means something has went wrong in your body and needs investigated, it could be a tumor interfering with the nervous system, etc. Nerves from that side of the face down thru the spine, back up to the brain, something like that. Horners can be completely benign or very serious, as I understand. They need to rule out if anything more serious is causing the symtoms to face, eye.

     
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    Ratotosk: Thank you for sharing, I find your story reassuring. You say the difference in Pupil size is significant. I have seen on the net saying UP TO a
    2mm differnce is normal , some places only say up to 1mm difference. I was thinking my sons was over 2mm's but of coarse I have no way to measure this, the last time I was at the Peditrcians, his eyes were in bright light, so he could not see this difference at all. So I am glad to hear others who have had a noticable Anisocoria and everything is OK with them. ANyone else in your family have this???? My other son has and one of the uncles also had it in my family, also reassuring. But theirs was not very noticalble, unless you were really looking.

     
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    We discovered a few weeks ago that our 2-month-old daughter has uneven pupils as well. She is going to a ped. opthamologist next week. I'll post what they say about it.

     
    Old 05-10-2007, 09:57 PM   #14
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    Re: Anyone who has children born with UnEqual Pupils (Anisocoria) or Horners Syndrome

    I too, have had this all my life. I have a difficult time maintaining focus in in bright light, which gave me headaches at school. I would wear patches at home and do various excersizes to strengthen the weak eye. My vision is actually 20/20 in both eyes, it is just focus that gets me sometimes. The excersizes helped alot, but I still get really tired eyes when I am trying to focus on something for a long time in bright light. (School lecture, computer etc.) Also, after I blink things are really blury for a second in bright light.

    The only other problem I have is terrible night vision. So do my father, my uncle, and my three aunts who all have blue eyes like me. They have never been diagnosed, but in dim light I can see the pupil difference. Probably the worst problem I have ever had with it is night driving, especially if I am meeting headlights headon (It's like temporary blindness!) or if it's raining and the lights reflect on the roads. Other than that I'm fine.

    I don't know much about Horner's, but I hope this helps!

     
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    Update...Went today to the Pediatric Opthmologist.... and what a relief, after checking his eyes, then dialating them to check some more things, he is 99.9 % sure it is just the "Simple Anisocoria" -meaning he was just born with Unequal pupils, will not hurt him at all in life..... he compared this to having 2 different sized feet. His pupils are between 1.5 - 2mm difference in moderate to Dim light, which is more than most people with this issue, he usually sees 1mm or less difference , but has also seen bigger differences too. His Optic nerves and retinas look good, pupils both react to light, he followed him with his eyes, so "Good Report". I asked if this was a muscle thing , he said NO. He wants me to come back in 6 months, just as cautionary, He expects to find the same thing. (Didn't feel it was a Horners Syndrome because he lacked the other symtoms of that-droopy eye lid, iris a lighter color in affected eye, etc). I asked him How often he sees this in Babies, or children, he said about ONCE A MONTH. I was expecting him to say more than that ! It is a pretty rare thing then!

     
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