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    Old 07-19-2005, 07:06 AM   #1
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    Did anyone have vision/frequent urination as first symptoms?

    For the past few months I have been having reoccuring bouts of blurry vision and now recently have to urinate pretty much every hour. My doctor sent me for blood work to test for diabetes but I won't get the results for another five days or so. So, I was wondering, did anyone else have these as their first symptoms? I don't have what the doctor says is the most common symptom which is excessive thirst.

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    Old 07-19-2005, 11:17 AM   #2
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    Hello, I find it strange that your physician will not get the blood test results until 5 days. Is he/she living in the 1950's? One is able to get same day Lab results from a competent lab, and your doctor can also use a finger test (capillary blood) such as Freestyle (Flash) Glucose Meter and have the results in about 5 seconds. You need a more up to date physician.
    As to your symptoms, yes it can be a sign of Diabetes because glucose can travel to the lens of the eye effecting vision and of course frequent urination (polyuria) as well as frequent drinking of water (polydypsia) is a "sign of Diabetes.
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    Old 07-19-2005, 03:06 PM   #3
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    Re: Did anyone have vision/frequent urination as first symptoms?

    Barry -

    I think that Belle meant her doctor sent her bloodwork out for a hemoglobin A1c test. That can take a few days for the results. In the meantime, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start her on oral meds or at least get her on a diabetic diet until the results come in.

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    Old 07-19-2005, 04:32 PM   #4
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    As far as "Diagnosis" of Diabetes is concerned, YOU DO NOT DO an A1C. What you do is a quick test for Diabetes which again can be achieved in 5 sec. using a device like the Freestyle Flash (I do not work for them). Typical Blood Glucose results from a competent Lab will arrive back within the same day. A patient is also never started on any medications be it Insulin (Type 1 Diabetes) or Oral Anti Diabetes medications(Type 2 Diabetes) before a Diagnosis is made. It sounds like you have the same physician or/and the same lack of knowledge.
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    Old 07-19-2005, 05:02 PM   #5
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    Re: Did anyone have vision/frequent urination as first symptoms?

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    As far as "Diagnosis" of Diabetes is concerned, YOU DO NOT DO an A1C. What you do is a quick test for Diabetes which again can be achieved in 5 sec. using a device like the Freestyle Flash (I do not work for them). Typical Blood Glucose results from a competent Lab will arrive back within the same day. A patient is also never started on any medications be it Insulin (Type 1 Diabetes) or Oral Anti Diabetes medications(Type 2 Diabetes) before a Diagnosis is made. It sounds like you have the same physician or/and the same lack of knowledge.
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    Actually one fasting blood sugar over 126 or a glucose load test 2hr after over 200 is a diagnosis of diabetes. Most physicians will NOT rely on a test in the office for diagnosis and will send out for the labwork instead. I believe this is because the diagnosis codes and thus ability to bill the insurance for things after a diagnosis from a professional lab plus although many meters are extremely accurate, lab results are more accurate & professional...its just the way the medical field works...just makes good sense to have lab work for an actual diagnosis.

    As far as lab results the same day, unless the doc puts an urgent request they usually take at least a day or two depending when the lab delivery driver picks up the samples. When the results come back to the office they are usually then attached to the chart and given to the doc to sign off on which usually also happens at the end of the day (after 4Pm) since he is busy seeing patients during the day...although we would all like the system to work a little faster...giving a patient a 3-5 day window is realistic. Many times the patient also has had diabetes for a while...most Type IIs have it for 5-10 yrs before they are actually diagnosed...so another 5 days isn't life threatening...unless its Type I.

    As far as you throwing the "lack of knowledge" insult around let me correct you in that Type I always requires insulin and Type II... can depending on how high the patient blood sugar is at diagnosis. In fact, many great aggressive doctors start insulin right away to get the patient back into normal control then change them to meds...this is a quick way to get a patient into control (a patient that would be treated like this might present with blood sugars around 300-400) but most physicians that havent taken a interest in diabetes wouldnt treat like that....in fact, many will start meds and continue them way too long allowing the patient to stay above good control too long before they finally move to insulin.

    So I say see what your doctor says after the tests come back...understand that 70% of Type II diabetics will require some type of insulin sometime in their lives to keep in control. Its a progressive disease and the key is to EDUCATE YOURSELF....

     
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    Re: Did anyone have vision/frequent urination as first symptoms?

    i had those symptoms and found out a week ago i had type 2, but those symptoms can also be associated with age as well as other medical problems.

    it took my doctor 2 weeks for the tests to get to him, and he is a young doc, not that its his fault it takes so long, it is the lab where you get it done, with all the problem the labs are haveing in areas because of strikes, and lack of nurses graduateing it takes longer in some areas. So dont feel like 5 days is too long or that you have a bad doc ok
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    Old 07-23-2005, 08:45 PM   #7
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    Re: Did anyone have vision/frequent urination as first symptoms?

    Blurry vision is VERY significant and should not be ignored for even one minute. I put off going to the eye doctor when one of my eyes blurred, thinking I just needed stronger glasses. Instead it was full blown diabetes wrecking havok on my eyes.
    Actually much damage can be done by elevated blood sugar before there are any symptoms.
    On my case it was macular retinal edema and it permanantly caused loss of vision, caused by high sugar levels in the blood for quite some time, unknown to me.
    If I can save even one person's vision with my story, it's worth telling, painful as it is. sigh

     
    Old 07-24-2005, 11:58 PM   #8
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    Re: Did anyone have vision/frequent urination as first symptoms?

    Gidday, I have Type 1 and have had it for 13 years. I inject insulin and I remember those first few months as being very difficult. My symptoms were I urinated almost every 30 mins, lost about 15kgs in a month, excessive thirst, no energy and really bad muscle cramps. If I were you I'd be getting a quick b/sugar test and just checking to see what it is then watching the amount of carbs you are eating until you know for sure. If it is diabetes get a hold of a good specialist and dietician and learn everything you can about keeping good control. Then stay active as you can, especially aerobic exercise although I also do a fair bit of anerobic because it tends to use up muscle glycogen quickly which helps to stabilise blood sugars. Listen to the dietician carefully and follow their advice. Cut out all alcohol. Don't listen to anyone about drinking. I watched my Dad die of Ketone Acidosis at 56 because he wouldn't stop drinking. Finally keep a good attitude cause you can still lead a perfectly normal life if you are prepared to make the effort. All the best and I really hope you don't have it.

     
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