01-23-2008, 01:23 PM
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#1 | Senior Member (male)
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| A1C values for non diabetic
I recently had a physical and since diabetes runs in my family they ran a A1C on me. I think 6 was the cut off for being normal and mine came right in at 5.9, is this something to be worried about??
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01-24-2008, 06:31 PM
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#2 | Senior Member (female)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Ditto this question. I had an A1C value of 6.2. I have never had a fasting glucose over 100. Should I be concerned? What is the official test for diabetes? I do have some episodes of excessive hunger, but not necessarily daily. I urinate often, but I have had that problem for years so its hard for me to tell if it is worse now. My hand gets numb at night, but only on one side and my doctor attributed it to a disc problem in my neck (this is before the A1C test). I haven't lost any weight. I have had episodes of what I think is hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) where I have a sensation of pounding in my chest (usually after I eat a heavy meal or have a drink). What should I do next?
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01-24-2008, 07:49 PM
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#3 | Senior Veteran (female)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic ][/FONT]According to the Joslin Diabetes Center, the goals for no-diabetics are as follows:
Before breakfast (fasting) 100 or less
Before lunch, dinner and snack: less than 110
Two hours after a meal: Less than 140
Bedtime: Less than 120
A1c: Less than 6.0
Ruth
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01-25-2008, 05:07 AM
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#4 | Senior Veteran (female)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Ditto Ruth.
Keep in mind that even if your fasting is ok, your post prandial (2 hours after the start of the meal) may be too high.
Cora
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01-25-2008, 01:36 PM
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#5 | Inactive (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
If your A1C is 5.9 - you are diabetic. NO MINCING WORDS HERE.
However, not to fret too much, you are not in real trouble yet
Lose a few pounds.
Exercise more (cardio vs. strength)
Eat better (lower your carbs)
Sleep more and well.
Drink more water! (Cut out caffeine)
And you will be ok for many years.
You are withing the range where if you take care of yourself, all will be good. If you don't however, all will not be good.
I personally am shocked that others haven't told you this already. (!)
~ Mark
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01-25-2008, 01:39 PM
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#6 | Senior Member (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Well according to the lab that is within the normal range and my doctor has said nothing about it.
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01-25-2008, 01:42 PM
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#7 | Inactive (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
More so,
Shame on Ruth and Cora.
(My heros here too...)
5.9 is not "boarderline".
It is indicative of a problem, a real one. And they well know that.
No one, and I mean no one hovers in that range. 5.9 is evidence that very soon you could be 6.5 or 7.3 or needing insulin to just live.
Like I said, you are not in real trouble yet, but sure headed for it. See below post, and I wish you well.
Sincerely, ~
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01-25-2008, 01:52 PM
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#8 | Inactive (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Your doctor is yesterday's news.
I suppose you don't have to trust me here. You can do your own research. I have personally reviewed over 10,000 pages of scientific research on the topic. I live with the disorder myself. I can tell you with some depth that an A1C of 5.9 is reason for concern.
You have the ability to change now, and I hope you hear the message here.
~ Mark
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01-25-2008, 02:07 PM
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#9 | Senior Member (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Well according to the lab that is still considered normal and my Dr has never even mentioned it.
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01-26-2008, 12:12 AM
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#10 | Inactive (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
I am really not sure what you missed below.
I have only typed this to help you.
I don't know how old you are, actually, I don't know much.
BUT if you are younger than 60 with an A1C of 5.9, you need to be concerned.
Doctors aren't gods - they just play the role for most.
~ Mark
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01-27-2008, 05:18 PM
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic Quote:
Originally Posted by kjarels Well according to the lab that is still considered normal and my Dr has never even mentioned it. | An HBA1c of 5.9% corresponds to an average blood sugar of 133mg/dl during the preceding 3 months. That is far ftrom "normal". The "normal" range is 70-90 mg/dl. The fact that your fasting numbers are "normal" is not surprising. Fast blood sugar levels are the last to rise as your beta cells have the whole night to bring them down to normal.
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01-27-2008, 05:38 PM
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#12 | Senior Member (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Actually even my glucose was over the normal range. It was at 101. Let me ask this question. I started on Weight Watchers and lost over 38 lbs but really I eat a lot of sweet things with high carbs. My glucose as always been in the normal range but I have noticed ever since I have been on this diet my glucose levels have slowly crept up.
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01-27-2008, 06:05 PM
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic Quote:
Originally Posted by kjarels ... I started on Weight Watchers and lost over 38 lbs but really I eat a lot of sweet things with high carbs. ... I have noticed ever since I have been on this diet my glucose levels have slowly crept up. | Mmmmm .... this is what high-carb eating tends to do .... Low-carb eating is much more suitable for controlling blood sugar levels. You also lose weight more easily eating this way.
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02-01-2008, 11:33 PM
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#14 | Inactive (male)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
I have stayed away from this issue for months, but ok, here goes.
If WW is the reason you lost weight, then I commend you. Losing weight is of utmost importance to the diabetic. But if you are still having blood sugar issues you need to:
Count carbs
Count calories
Test blood sugars regularly
And most importantly, choose your foods with thought, including timing.
And then drop all "programs" commercially designed for you to lose weight. Problem with those programs is they don't teach people how to actually eat. And that is MOST important. So while the weight loss is fantastic, the overall education you received is certainly not - and for you leading to troubles.
WW is a seemingly easy fix. True understanding is the long road, but will serve you much better regarding your health. WW is a business, being the number one concern, your dollar. This is fact.
There are many here who have walked your path, and we are here to help.
Sincerely,
~ Mark
Last edited by tb68; 02-01-2008 at 11:37 PM.
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02-02-2008, 05:57 AM
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#15 | Senior Veteran (female)
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| Re: A1C values for non diabetic
Ditto what the last Mark said.
The thing to keep in mind is that if you are eating sweets (even within your point count and still losing weight) you are forcing your pancreas to shoot out significant amounts of insulin to try to keep your glucose maintained. You run the risk of wearing out your pancreas as well as increasing your insulin resistance. There is a world of difference betwwen the same number of calories/carbs in a twinkie versus a bowl of oatmeal or bran. There will be a huge difference in your body's response, and the twinkie (or whatever) will ultimately cause you damage.
Cora
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