Only Whole Wheat???

Kari7171

It is on there as you say it should be with all of the grains. Whole wheat included. Whole wheat seems to be stressed more then the others though.

Losec20mg

yes cuz its less expensive.. people dont wanna pay 6.00$ for a healthy bread, they rather buy an expensive pair of jeans. You should think about that one to. I just purchased 2 loaves of Quinoa and, millet bread today for 6.00$ each.

Lenin

Wheat, and corn, and rice will always be stressed by a nation that produces excess wheat, corn, and rice.
Weathy farm conglomerates can buy lots of politicians.

auntjudyg

Plenty of people do very well without it or with very little of it. As already pointed out, there are plenty of other grains. Plus, IMHO, the emphasis on grains in the USDA food pyramid is not warranted. I think they have admitted that themselves with this new revision that recommends approximately 3 servings of whole grains a day. That leaves the rest that can be filled with refined products. Nobody can convince me that refined grain products are necessary for health.

This is a very common confusion but I don't know why. The reasons many recommend cutting down on or eliminating wheat have absolutely nothing to do with Dr. Atkins' plan . . . and absolutely nothing to do with carbs. And nobody is recommending cutting out any food group . . . not even Dr. Atkins, no matter what the anti-Atkins sites say . . . read his books.

Indeed, including wheat if one chooses the eat it. Not the 3 and more servings a day I would estimate the majority of Americans eat.

Check that label . . . the pasta is wheat. Check all your labels. That's what we're talking about. Wheat is everywhere, not just whole wheat.

Yes, the processed stuff is worse, but whole wheat has its problems, too. No, there is not the scientific evidence that tdot would like (in fact financial interests will probably prevent that for a long time to come). But it is amazing how many people, from different angles, for different reasons, for different health reasons have concluded that wheat is not all it's cracked up to be. Just keep it in the back of your mind. One day if you wake up and realize you have been suffering some vague complaint and the doctors find no answers or some more concrete complaints, think about cutting out wheat.

thomas3000

Good post Auntjudy!

Kari7171

"That leaves the rest that can be filled with refined products. Nobody can convince me that refined grain products are necessary for health."


Actually the rest is filled with 2.5 cups veggies, 2 cups fruit, 3 cups milk or dairy, 5.5 oz meat/beans. Those were the recommendations for someone my age. They say no refined food at all. Americans will not stay away from that though. Most don't care about nutrition or know anything about it.

auntjudyg

The rest of the grain group.

auntjudyg

Muchas gracias! But, boy oh boy, wheat is one of my pet peeves. As I've said before here and elsewhere, I'd love to see how many people's IBS/IBD/Crohn's/whatever symptoms would improve or disappear and how many people would get off SSRIs if they gave up wheat. Such a simple thing, but where would you hear about it in the mainstream media?

Losec20mg

LOLLL aunty, for some wheat is like heroin..

Kari7171

I base my decisions on scientific fact. If someone can give me scientific fact that whole wheat is really bad for us then fine. So far all I am seeing is hype. The heroin comment is pretty rude I think. I think i'll bow out of this conversation if it's going to be all about hype and and people making rude comments.

auntjudyg

And people get so defensive about their wheat. It is just beyond belief!!!

Losec20mg

kari start reading books and, you' ll see the experinces that people lived across the world and, how wrong they felt about their health when they where consuming wheat.. this is no hype.. trust me

Lenin

It has some healthy roots:
"Give us this day our daily bread"
"the staff of life"
"manna from Heaven"
All wheat!


Without wheat there would be no civilization, certainly nothing of the size mankind has grown to: man being able to develop wheat from the humble grasses allowed for the feeding of an otherwise untenable population.
Wheat and it's sister grain, rice, probably account for over half of all the food eaten (calories) on the planet.

It's gotten a bad rap by the meat and dairy sellers who would rather sell second-hand wheat...the meat, milk, cheese and butter made from wheat and costing 20 times as much.

If the population keeps growing at the same rate, we (or our ancestors) can look forward to eating LOTS more wheat directly; it will be too valuable to feed to animals except to feed the mega-rich.

thomas3000

I have scientific proof that wheat kills people, yes I said it kills. It causes cancer, cardiovascular disease, depression, autoimmune disease(lupus, hashimoto's thyroid, adrenal malfunction, and a host of others). The heroin comment is dead on. It is like a drug. It gives lots of pleasure until your neurotransmitters are depleted and then the chronic health probles arise. Nobody digests it fully. I know a woman with breast cancer that went of off gluten and cancer went away. What does that tell you? It's a silent killer and I have the scientific proof to back it up..