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    Old 04-08-2006, 11:57 AM   #1
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    Don't know what I've got

    Hi,

    I hope someone out there can help me with this, perhaps you've experienced something similar or know someone who has. First some facts about me, I'm Male, 21 and not relatively fit, but healthy and a normal weight for my height (6'2). At least, was a normal weight until I've lost much of my appetite! I don't smoke, nor drink alcohol.

    It started about eight weeks ago this weekened, one evening after a large meal. I had been sitting down for quite a few hours, and went to get up after a stretch - When suddenly I felt this peculiar sensation in the lower right of my stomach, and as I began to walk it felt as if I was being dragged down by a heavy weight inside my stomach. My first reaction was one of panic, and I collapsed to the nearest seat as I literally felt as if something had seriously gone wrong inside. It was very worrying, and I was sitting still for hours until attempting to move again simply because I was too afraid to. I went to get up, walked about five steps, and it happened again.

    Anyway, after quite a few of these rounds, my dad gave me something to calm down as it was clear part of the problem was panic. Eventually, with help, I was able to stand and walk, but not without some very heavy breathing to calm down. If I didn't do the controlled breathing, I would lapse into panic and collapse again.

    I phoned a doctor that same night, and he said it could be gastritus, which didn't really make me feel better. Eventually I was able to go to bed, but was awake the entire night and unable to lay on my side in bed because my stomach felt too tender. The following day, I felt more or less the same ?Again, having phoned the doctor and described things in more detail, he suggest it could be appendicitis ?So I later went up the hospital, and had some examinations done at A&E including a Blood Test, Stomach X-Ray and one of them exams up the back passage?Ahem. And of course, the Doctor felt around my stomach looking for any areas that caused pain, of which there were none. All the tests came back ok, and I was sent home with some Omeprazole tablets which are used to treat conditions such as gastric reflux and ulcers. At that point I was feeling somewhat calmer, having ruled out the appendices as the problem.

    After seeing my GP later that week, he advised I start the Omeprazole ?And so I did. I was on them for about two weeks, but eventually came off them because they were having side-effects that made my back and stomach muscles feel very weak in the evenings. I even went back up to the hospital when I started feeling pressure and tightness in my chest, which the Doctor said was probably caused by gastric reflux. I did have an ECG and Lung Capacity test just in case. The hospital here is very good, with very kind staff. I'm fortunate, having heard so many horror stories about other hospitals in this country. The following week I went to see my GP again, having told him about stopping the medication. He then gave me a prescription for a better, improved medication Known as Ranitidine. And also he gave me a prescription for some laxative liquid to help my toilet (at the time I had been having some trouble with constipation, going for days without passing stools).

    I took some laxative for a week, which really helped my toilet, and I now go nearly every morning regular as clockwork. Iv'e been on the ranitidine for two weeks now, Taking 300mg at bedtime (originally I was to take 300mg twice a day, but I was advised not to by the pharmacist).

    That brings up to now, and Its still not alll fixed up, per say. I no longer have the discomfort I originally had for the first two weeks, but I still have a plethora of other problems that show no sign of going as of yet. I decided a few days to make some notes of my current symptoms should I ever get an appointment with a gastreologist. Heres what Ive come up with so far:

      Remember, I've had lots of tests already, but no detailed tests as I've only had the tests done when visiting A&E. Thanks for reading, hope you might be able to help! This is causing me to feel very depressed, and often anxious.

       
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      Old 04-08-2006, 01:08 PM   #2
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      Re: Don't know what I've got

      I have almost every symptom you have described...I went to the doc in the box thinking it was my heart, they did an EKG and chest x-ray and said everything looked normal. I then went to a GI specialist and was put on Aciphex but couldn't take it either due to side effects... I switched to Zantac which is ranitidine, 150mg in the morning and 150mg before dinner... it seemed to help some... but occasionally my upper mid chest area is still sore and I occasionally get bad flare ups, which I then take rolaids, which seem to help very little. I've also had the pains move around my chest and sometimes movement seems to aggrevate it. My GI has scheduled me for an ultrasound and endoscopy... thinking it may be gallbladder related... I too find that it occurs when I'm getting ready to go to bed, but sleep seems to make it go away until I wake up and get active or eat... I've pretty much tried to eliminate fatty foods such as dairy and just high fat things... when I do eat fatty foods, the belching is incredibly worse... I feel for ya... it really sucks.. especially not knowing what is going on... I know stress makes everything 100x worse, and have learned how to control it, which helps some. I'm thinking this is a common thing with either GERD or gallbladder... but it has really been debilitating and has disrupted my everyday life...

      do you get gurgling or rumbling noises in your stomach and small intestines at night or when you wake up?

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      Old 04-08-2006, 03:57 PM   #3
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      I get them at night, but it's one of the few symptoms that don't bother me. It's just the rest of it that does...Today I've found my chest has been aching somewhat most of the day, which could be caused by the Ranitidine.

      It's not really painful though (other than the odd gas pain)...Most of this doesn't seem painful, just very uncomfortable. At least theres that... But I guess with these disorders, they don't need to be painful. And you can't help but worry even more when the symptoms are elusive, often leaving the regular Doctor unable to offer a sound explanation.

      I'm gonna see my GP again this week, and try to see if I can see a gastreologist.

      I've found the problem is usually worse in the evening, followed by some discomfort the following morning. Mid-day is usually best, with little symptoms at all other than a general feeling of "something not right". But I just know it'll return later that day, and surely, it does, no matter how much I try to take my mind off it.

      Let me know what results you get.

       
      Old 04-09-2006, 05:09 AM   #4
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      Did this odd pressure pain start after taking Omeprazole?? I had stomach problems for 10 months until I finally decided to try the OTC Omeprazole (yea, I don't like pills or doctors, hence waiting 10 months! ha!), this stopped the burning in my stomach, however I began getting a horrible pressure in my upper abdomen (right below the breasts in the middle or even between the breasts) I stopped the pills, but the pressure continued for months! Extremely ANNOYING! Then I couldn't eat like I used to, I'd eat a quarter of what I used to and feel like my stomach was stretching apart really bad! I lost my taste for chocolate and ice cream (2 of my very favorite foods that I'd PIG OUT on!) didn't want them at all! Finally 3 months later I finally saw a doctor who sent me to a gasro doctor. I had an endoscopy, etc., and found out NOTHING AT ALL was wrong, 3 days later all my symptoms of 13 months disappeared! Mine was all stress. You may still be stressing and actually have nothing wrong with you too! But I just had to comment that I too got that pressure in the chest after that medication!

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      Old 04-09-2006, 05:21 AM   #5
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      Yes, it can be stress related - I think I DO have something wrong, DEFINITELY, but it's certainly worsened by stress and worry, and the nagging feeling in the back of your mind that it could be serious going undetected. And it's hard to concentrate on much...

      No, the pressure didn't start when taking Omeprazole, but I stopped taking that anyway because I got too many side-effects. Im currently on Ranitidine, the only side-effects Ive noticed so far is the occaisonal small rash, light headache, and a ache in the chest.

      The pressure occurs MAINLY in the evening, just after dinner, but I do get it in the morning sometimes - But if I have a milky tea, triggering bowel movements, it goes about half an hour after going a toilet. Sometimes I don't get the pressure, and just get the other symptoms I mentioned. It's not just stress related though, because I have many other physical symptoms.

       
      Old 04-12-2006, 03:26 PM   #6
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      I've been to the Doctor again, and he didn't think I needed to see a Gastreologist because I'm too young and that there doesn't seem to be any signs of a major problem. I have had blood tests for things like H.ployri, Gallbladder, Liver Check, Blood Count, etc, and several other tests that were done at ER (Only those that junior doctors can do) which did come back ok. The Doc thinks I should continue with the Ranitidine for another two weeks, and has also given me a weak anti-depressant to deal with my anxiety. Do I trust this decision, or shall I try to get more tests done at ER and/or a second opinion?

      So far my symptoms are more or less the same, except the pressure in the chest isn't as bad as it was. But I am getting lots of other little pains, sometimes in the right side - Just short sharp stings, aches or whatnot.. None of which are very strong or last for very long - And despite that, are still worrying me. They seem to be more noticable when I'm sitting, and particulary in the evening - During the day, I can walk around town and feel absolutely fine for the most part.

       
      Old 04-13-2006, 05:36 AM   #7
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      Pete,

      I've had the same exact symptoms as you. Unfortunately, I suffer from anxiety disorder as well, and even though I haven't had any problems with it for several years, the doctors are thinking that my stomach issues are related to this..

      I've had the following tests performed:
      -Gastric emptying scan
      -Esophageal motility test
      -48 hr. PH study
      -Upper Endoscopy
      -Complete bloodwork
      -Stool test
      -parasites
      -Celiac
      -Crohn's
      -Candida

      All negative....The next step would be a look at my small intestine, but frankly my bloodwork would have shown some sign of inflammation or infection.

      Final diagnosis: functional dyspepsia....i.e. sensitive stomach. I'm not really sure how I feel about this. I've been to three different doctors, and they all say the same thing.

      It is quite common for people with anxiety and/or stress issues to have Irritable bowel syndrom, but doctors are not sure about the upper gut and the influence stress has on it....

       
      Old 04-13-2006, 11:41 AM   #8
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      Perhaps, but if you do a search on that condition, you'll see all the listed symptoms - Many of which I don't have, the most notable one is any form of constant abdominal pain.

       
      Old 04-13-2006, 01:11 PM   #9
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      Pete,

      Trust me on this one: Anxiety can create almost any symptom you can think of. I sat in a class of anxiety sufferers for nearly 3 months, and I heard it all. I'm looking at a list right now that has about 600 symptoms on it. Your mind is a powerful device, and it can really mess your body up.

      Now that being said, "I would try to find a physical reason first, BUT either way, you need to keep your nerves in check because it can really exasperate physical ailments.

      Good Luck. I hope you find an answer.

      p.s. I didn't quite understand your post: Are you saying you can't find abdominal pain as a symptom of anxiety? abdominal pain is a CLASSIC symptom of anxiety/stress. I work in an office of financiers, and we live on Maalox, zantac, etc. Our stomachs are constantly a wreck.

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      Old 04-13-2006, 03:41 PM   #10
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      No, I mean, I don't HAVE any adominal pain as it would normally be considered, I do have some pains - Short ones, some aches, some stings, but the general problem is the symptons I mentioned.

      The one thing I have noticed is that when I'm walking about or doing things, I don't notice it as much - But if I'm sitting still, I begin to notice it much more. 600 symptoms eh? Can I see that list, by any chance?

      I do have anxiety - This I know - But so far I believe it is a RESULT of something that I've got, not the cause. You see, I can be completely relaxed... Totally not thinking about myself, and yet I still get symptoms pop up...I thought anxiety was all at the level of the mind?

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      Old 04-13-2006, 06:28 PM   #11
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      OK, now when I was talking about the pressure I was getting (and I was also getting waves of HEAT) this would only happen when at my computer or driving... the 2 places I am seated. walking around, cleaning, cooking, shopping, etc... I would NEVER get those problems! I too was convinced I had a real physical problem, but didn't.

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      Old 04-14-2006, 01:25 AM   #12
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      Hmm, well, even though Im pretty sure I have some physical problem (due to the flatulence, belching, change in bowel movements, etc) I am sure that anxiety is where it all started. You see, in my first post, you'll see I said I collapsed - The reason was because I was overwhealmed with fear, and the sensation in my chest was telling me to sit down (you know when you get scared out of your skin, I.E on a rollercoaster and your chest feels weird - Not sure how to describe it). But if I took deep breaths, the senstation would go away - If I didn't do that, eventually I'd collapse - but only because it felt like something was "coming away" , per say, and that sitting down would stop it. Now - Was that a panic attack triggered by that sensation? If so, was that sensation an illusion, or something physical - I.E hernia.

      Touch wood though - I haven't had that for many weeks now, though I did have a brief episode last night before going to bed, which I was able to fight off.

       
      Old 04-14-2006, 03:38 AM   #13
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      My list of anxiety symptoms is from a book from my class several years back, but if you want a fairly exhaustive list, go to the anxiety board on this website and at the top, there is a list from one of the moderators. While its not 600 long, its more than enough. Please don't dwell on every little symptom though, then you WILL get yourself in an anxious mess.

      One thing to keep in mind, is that you do not have to be in a current state of anxiety to experience the symptoms of prolonged anxiety. Your stomach doesn't all of a sudden get better just because you're having a few hours of relaxation. You're thinking of panic symptoms, or the "flight or fight" response...

      My stomach is always better when I stand as well...walking is even better. I'm not sure why....

      The problem with health anxiety is that you never know which came first, the chicken or the egg. You don't want to discredit every physical ailment to simply anxiety, but at the sametime, you don't want to run to the docs everytime your heart skips a beat. Its difficult to determine when something is worth worrying about.

      I'm having stomach issues right now, and I have self-diagnosed myself with about 15 different things...the docs still don't know. My main concern is that I'm losing weight, despite eating normal meals.

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      Old 04-14-2006, 06:28 AM   #14
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      Yes, I've lost a bit of weight too over the past few weeks. The good thing is I can eat more now, during the first two weeks I could barely finish anything, even a bowl of soup.

      My Doc has given me medication for anxiety and panic attacks, but I'm a little reluctant to take it - I am on Ranitidine too which I've been on for two weeks, and I guess will be on for another two weeks. I can't say for certain it's helped, but the pressure in the chest has faded out a little bit since I started it. As someone mentioned that pressure can be anxiety, but, I don't think so - I recall waking up with it a few mornings, and after going to the toilet, it faded 15 minutes later.

      I also recall a few weeks ago at ER when a young Doctor said she'd looked over my X-Rays again, and after feeling my stomach, could tell that there was still things left behind - After which I was given laxative. This, and other reasons, kind of proves which came first - Chicken or egg... In this case, the symptoms came first, the anxiety second.

       
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      Just thought I'd update - I've been continuing to take the Ranitidine, and have also started 10mg per day Citalopram 5 days ago to treat anxiety. The thing is, I'm not sure I want to be on it - I don't like the idea of having any side-effects, in particular constipation which seems to be a common one. My stomach and chest symptoms have been relieved considerably over the past few days, although not 100%.

      I have noticed some new pains popping up though, one is a short-sharp stabbing pain in the chest, that lasts for less than a second when it happens - It's to the left side, just underneath the chest roundabout where the rib is. I didn't notice it until a few days ago, could it be a side-effect of the medication, anxiety or GERD? It also throbbed yesturday at the same spot for about a minute.

      I've also been having similar "short" sharp-pains in the lower left and right of my stomach, I guess closer to the bowel. They too last for less than a second, but didn't experience them until about a week ago.

      I seem to get the pains more when resting, although not all the time.

      The good thing is though, many of my previous symptoms have faded.

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