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    Old 02-16-2019, 07:33 PM   #1
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    Burning Tongue

    I've had a burning tongue for about half a year. There's always a white patch on it near the front. Sometimes I can also feel the roof of my mouth have a burning sensation and/or also an area down in my mouth further that I can just barely reach with index finger. I've gone to my family physician and she looked at my tongue and said she thought it was Lichen planus (I guess some kind of fungus). I was put on a round of Prednisone and it might have been my imagination but I thought that it was getting better, but since they don't want a person on steroids for long, I was only on the Rx for about a week. So if it was working, I don't know if I was on it long enough. I was put on a numbing mouth rinse, which helps somewhat temporarily, but I would like a permanent solution if there is such a thing.

    I was referred to an ear, nose, and throat specialist, who called my problem either "Burning Mouth Syndrome" or "Burning Tongue Syndrome" (I forget which). He thought it was caused by my acid reflux even though I take Rx for that (Omeprazole) and told me to double up on my dosage, which I have with no results. I gave up soda because of this burning problem, but that hasn't made a difference either. It didn't sound like the "specialist" (yeah right) has any other solution and said that people just have to live with it. Well, I don't like that prognosis and he didn't seem very concerned and I'm thinking of seeing another "specialist" and hopefully that one will know more.

    This isn't just a mild burning. It feels as though someone poured scalding hot water over my tongue and it's scalded. It's pretty unbearable and it wakes me up almost every night if I can get to sleep. I do lose a lot of sleep because of this. I don't know where to go from here. It's like nobody can help me.

     
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    Old 02-16-2019, 10:03 PM   #2
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    Re: Burning Tongue

    Lichen planus of the mouth is an autoimmune disease.
    Im curious if you have any other health issues you're dealing with? And have you had blood testing to check for anything that could show a relation for cause?

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    Old 02-16-2019, 10:30 PM   #3
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    Re: Burning Tongue

    MY medical issues are:
    Asthma, GERD, depression, high cholesterol, borderline diabetes, overweight, degenerative disc disease (have 3 titanium rods in my right SI joint). Whenever I'm put on antibiotics, I get a yeast infection. I had fungus on my toenails about 10 years ago, but I haven't had it since. As a child, I had a scaly rash that started as a circular shape on my left elbow, which proceeded to grow over the coming months and years. In the end, it went from a little past my elbow all the way down to, and including my hand. The doctor said it was a fungus and was given cream that I don't think really did anything. My mother didn't take me back and the rash went away on its own several years later. I hated seeing it on my arm, but it didn't hurt or itch. I mentioned all of these things because it seems to me like I'm a naturally fungus-prone person.

    Although I doubt if it has anything to do with my tongue, I also have sleeping problems, very sleepy during the day and have trouble sleeping at night. I wake often, but some of that is because my burning tongue wakes me up a lot.

    Also, I was bitten by a tick last year, although I didn't know it at the time until I got feverish and nauseous and lost my appetite. My dr. saw that my EKG was different than it had been when I had one done before having a colonoscopy about half a year earlier. He was afraid I was having a heart attack, sent me to the ER and they had no idea what was wrong with me. Since I go outside a lot, my husband and I thought that maybe a tick bit me. After my dr. tested me for lyme disease, I tested positive and was put on tetracycline for a month. I have no idea if that would cause my tongue burning though.

    I hope I remembered to mention everything. Thanks for trying to help me here. I really am very miserable having to put up with this pain. It's bad enough dealing with my back pain.

     
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    Old 02-17-2019, 07:58 AM   #4
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    Re: Burning Tongue

    A round of prendisone would likely make you feel better as it can reduce swelling and inflammation, but has anyone given you antifungals? There are both pills and mouthwashes you can use if it is fungal, to help heal it and make the fungus dissappear.

    Have you talked to your dentist about this? My husband developed thrush in his mouth from antibiotics...and the doctor did pretty much nothing, but when he went to his dentist, the dentist prescribed an antifungal mouth wash which he used 3x a day and boom- cured.

    Maybe talk to a dentist and ask them to check it out?
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    Old 02-17-2019, 02:10 PM   #5
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    My dr. did have me on a round of prednisone and it didn't take it away, but if you think it will make it feel better, maybe she'll prescribe some for me. I don't know what it is with doctors around here, but they act like they're half afraid to try anything. No, nobody has "given" me antifungals. I forgot to mention that the dr. had originally prescribed something called Magic Swizzle that I was to rinse my mouth with and swallow it. It helped numb it somewhat but didn't get rid of the problem.

    I have been to my dentist about it and he did nothing. He had no idea what it is and wouldn't prescribe anything for it. Nice. :/

     
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    Old 02-17-2019, 03:10 PM   #6
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    Re: Burning Tongue

    Dear Comeonnow,

    Personally for this issue I would find a certified and practiced Naturopath physician. It may be that you need help to try healthy things that will rebalance your body chemistry. It could be that your body is reacting to all of the stress you have been under. Stress uses up all of our B complex vitamins right away, which can cause symptoms like what you describe. It does happens to me.

    We probably all have some fungus in our bodies, but it is when we get an overgrowth that we notice undesirable symptoms. What works for me for 'burning tongue' is to mix a rounded tablespoon of the natural B complex vitamin resource, powdered brewers yeast, (NOT the yeast used for beer making), in a small amount of orange juice and drink it twice a day for a week or two. I learned this from a midwife back when my baby daughter had serious burns from diaper rash that no medical doctor could effectively treat. For two weeks doctors had suggested all sorts of creams, etc, to no avail, even suggesting that I give her liquid vitamin B complex, which did not help at all.

    But feeding her the natural source of B complex, brewers yeast, sprinkled on mashed banana cleared up the fungal rash in just a few days (the mashed banana or orange juice is only for making the brewers yeast taste better).

    Magic Swizzle isn't harmless or magic (as you know, of course) and it contains Benadryl which even can cause delirium and confusion. Even if you have no noticeable side effect, Benadryl does nothing to resolve an overgrowth of body yeast or fungus.

    Ironically, today I noticed my own tongue is 'burning' so I am off to get a dose of brewer's yeast myself. It is found at health food resources and is a staple in my home.
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    Old 02-17-2019, 04:20 PM   #7
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    Re: Burning Tongue

    Yaya, I'm wondering if those kinds of doctors are covered by medical insurance. If not, well, not sure if I'd be able to go or if there's even any in our area (it's rural).

    The yeast...um, is that the same type of yeast that you'd buy in a grocery store to make bread? If it's not, I could go to GNC in the mall, although I don't frequent the place. I can't really afford the homeopathic things, like if I'd want to change to a totally homeopathic lifestyle. I'm sure yeast won't break me up though.

     
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    Old 02-17-2019, 04:47 PM   #8
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    Dear comeonnow, nope naturopaths are not medical doctors. I know that can be expensive. I rarely do pay to see a naturopath, but have now and then over the years. I paid one years ago back when doctors were refusing to prescribe natural thyroid hormones. It was worth every cent.

    Mostly I study and buy some vitamins/supplements, but I don't spend a lot of money on it at all, nor do I have a lot of money to spend. I do try to eat a reasonably balanced diet of fresh food that is not over-processed.

    In my case, for many years I had Hep C from a transfusion back before they began testing blood for it. I am doing alright because I take very good care of my liver, and qualified for the new treatment Harvoni and now am cured. Why I am telling you is that I had to be very careful about what I put in or on my body because of my compromised liver. I still am careful.

    Back to your issue. No, brewers yeast is not bread yeast. It might be used for other things, but the medicinal type is sold in bulk by many health food stores. If you are in a small town without a health food store, you can look online for food quality brewers yeast and buy the smallest amount that you can afford. A big online vitamin website should have a bottle of it at a reasonable price. Shake it up to fluff the powder before measuring out a rounded spoonful and a bottle will last a long time. The B vitamins in it are great for stress and stress related disease symptoms. It is harmless. It feeds the nerves. It even is helpful to relieve the symptoms of menstrual duress, because vitamin B deficiency causes a lot of issues.

    My husband used to get burning tongue when stressed. Yep, the B complex in brewers yeast settled his nerves right down. Not immediately like medicine. But within two or three days. Let me know if you try it and how you are doing.
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    Old 02-17-2019, 07:48 PM   #9
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    Yaya, Your posts have given more hope than I've had in months! I actually have options now to try that I have a feeling will work. I don't know about that type of physician because it really isn't do-able for us right now. Before hubby left for work tonight at 10:00, I told him what you said about brewer's yeast and now I just texted him telling him that I guess Walmart wouldn't have it (he had said that he was going to stop there on the way home in the morning). At least now he knows, thanks to you, that it's not the bread kind of yeast. Well, if he'd have gotten the bread kind, I suppose we could have made sticky buns. Ha. If we can't find it around here in the next few days, I will order it online. We'll find it somehow. It's really h*** living with this burning tongue. Talk about adding to my depression!

    Regarding stress, I'm not sure exactly which type you mean, but I am not working anymore and so I don't have the stress of work. I guess I am what you'd call a driven person. I love the outdoors and am trying to make our yard a haven for butterflies where they can lay eggs that will hopefully mature to be butterflies. This requires much work and because we don't have a tiller, I hand dug a very large area by hand with a trowel and got carpal tunnel syndrome and cubital tunnel syndrome from all that. I had my arms and hands operated on, but I don't think they'll ever be what they were pre-digging. I guess I kind of get anguished over not being physically able to do as much as what I want to do outside and inside. Between my back and my trying to fight for sleep, I only get a fraction done of what I want to do. Between my nature goals and my mother (whole other story altogether...suffice it to say that she's demanding and hard to be around because of all of the negativity), I suppose that those things could be affecting my body, causing my tongue to burn. I hope I don't have other problems that I'm not even aware of.

    That's great that you're cured of the Hepatitis C. I see advertisements on the tv about baby boomers should be tested for that, but I don't know why. I guess I don't have that. I don't know if regular blood tests that I have to have done every 3 months would show Hep C or not or if I'd have to have specific blood tests done to diagnose that. I never used drugs, and I never had a blood transfusion, so I don't know if I'd have that. I know you're not suggesting to me that I have that but that you've had to be careful what you put into your body because of your liver.

    I did notice that a site online mentioned that burning tongue could be caused by a person becoming allergic to the amalgam in their fillings. I certainly hope it's not that because I don't know what the solution to that is. I do have fillings, but I've had fillings for a very long time and never had a problem with them causing my tongue to burn in previous years.

    Regarding this yeast I will be getting, I'm still a little confused on if it's in a capsule form or a powder. You said about mixing it in orange juice, so I guess that you mean it's a powder. If it's available in capsules, is one type any better than the other?

    I don't know if this bears any weight here, but I was told at one point that I have a fatty liver, whatever they meant by that. The dr. didn't go into any detail on that. It was just left up in the air. She probably knows that it's hard for me to get healthy mostly because the healthy food like produce is so expensive for us. We eat pretty much pasta and only have fruits and vegetables a couple times a week. It's just the way it is. I can't demand that manufacturer's and grocers reduce their prices to an affordable level for me and my family.

    It will probably take awhile for me to tell you how the yeast works for me because till I obtain some and take it for awhile, it could be another couple of weeks. So hopefully you will still be around to see my post. I will definitely post a reply in this thread telling you of my progress. I am really getting hopeful here, but even if it wouldn't work for me, it's not like I'll go off the deep end because I've had so many negative things happen for/to me that it's kind of my normal, although I wish it wouldn't be. Thank you so much for giving me these suggestions and giving me hope!
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    Re: Burning Tongue

    Glad to help, Cathy.

    Take it from an over-worker, not taking proper breaks and not taking enough rest or healing time does not increase healing or stamina or reduce stress.

    Who will help butterflies when you over-do so that you can't function?

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    Aw, thanks again, Yaya. Yes, I have to be healthy to take care of the butterflies. I've started taking Brewer's yeast in tablet form but also plan on getting some powder to mix with orange juice like you suggested. I will post here in the next week or two if you want to know about my progress. I can't thank you enough.
    Hugs to you too,
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    Old 02-20-2019, 07:06 AM   #12
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    Dear comeonnow,

    You're very welcome!
    It's a joy to know you are encouraged.

    Sitting here is about all I can do now that my body is a wreck. My favorite thing is to get out in the garden and taking care of the birds and frogs. We have a resident toad now that we get to see here and there in the yard. Of course not this time of year.

    I meant to tell you that to me capsules contain too small of amounts as I take a rounded tablespoon of the BY powder at a time, or at least a heaping teaspoon. I personally bypass capsules except occasionally. I see no reason to put the gelatin capsules in my digestive system. I know some people can't tolerate the taste of BY but I find that mixing it with a little orange juice makes it tolerable.

    I can't get email notices of new posts for some reason, but I check on threads from time to time, and I will make a point of checking to see if you shared an update.
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