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    Old 04-27-2003, 12:06 AM   #31
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    Hi all.....just had to tell my tonsil habits to people who are in the "know". Finally, an opportunity to unload to someone other than my husband.

    Hi, I'm quincy....and I am a tonsil squeezer! http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

    My habit started in 1983. I was diagnosed with asthma and had chronic colds, bronchitis, and my tonsils tried to help to the best of its ability..but it was too much for them. Finally, they became overloaded with too much crapola.

    One day, I checked out what felt like something scratching in my throat (with a small flashlight) and as I stretched my mouth open this white stuff starting coming out of my right tonsil. I took two q-tips and squeezed from the outer edge (not the open edge) and tons of stuff came out. I kept getting new q-tips, got more stuff and kept pushing around the outside (slightly changing position higher and lower) of the area to push out the stuff until I couldn't get any more stuff.

    The next day, the swollen glands below my ear went down, my sore throat started to clear and I was hooked on cleaning out those buggers every day from then on.

    I've taken to doing both, and actually, before they turn to stones...it must be a kind of mucus in there because sometimes that's what comes out.

    I talked to my ENT about it when I first started doing that and begged to have my tonsils out. No go, and I've resented him for that ever since.

    So, after brushing my teeth and tongue in the morning, my tonsils get cleaned out too. A good rinse afterward, and I never have to worry about them being dislodged or getting chewed in with my gum....YUCK,BLEH!!

    I am however interested in the waterpic! I often thought about inventing a vaccuum for them, but cleaning out the vaccuum afterward would be too much.

    Thank you my fellow tonsil stone sufferers for giving me the opportunity to tell my story.

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    Old 04-28-2003, 12:04 PM   #32
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    What a pain this is!!!!!!
    I just got off an antibiotic for a sinus and ear infection thing. Ever since I posted this message, I have had problems with this "cold" coming back (and post nasal drip). My doctor says he will send me to a ENT doctor if I wish. So, if this goes on one more time, I am off to tell the ENT to cut those bad boys out!!! I refuse to have to deal with these forever! I cannot stand constantly checking my tonsils and squeezing on them making them bleed because of this rediculous problem.

    Quincy,
    If you constantly get these, then why don't you demand getting your tonsils out or see a new doctor?

    These things are so foul that they make me ill!!!!
    I am just terrified because they say it is mightly painful getting the old tonsils out as an adult!

    I hope you all find a good cure for these and thanks for the stories!!! (even though they quite rancid!!)

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    Old 04-28-2003, 08:26 PM   #33
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    Hi All! Suprised to find this subject...I guess they DO cover everything here! Want to hear my story?...hush! you're gonna hear it anyway LOL!

    When I was young (I'm over the proverbial hill now) about 12, I was always getting sick with colds and sore throats and, too had those 'tonsil stones' (as someone so eloquently put it), but the main thing was I was in seventh grade and only weighed 89 lbs and was only 4'11" tall. I was taken to the doctor and he said the reason I wasn't growing or gaining weight was due to my tonsils...so I had them out. I remember being in hospital and having the worst sore throat ever and the only thing I could take was ginger ale (still love it!). Being a child and hurting so much, I can imagine what it would be like as an adult. But kids heal fast and so it went. I suddenly started to gain weight and was thrilled to reach the triple digit figure for weight and I grew two inches! I no longer have tonsils or adnoids (they use to remove those at the same time, but I can't say why) and fortunately, don't have to deal with those little devils anymore either. My youngest daughter has them, too, but doctors refused to remove her tonsils.

    My theory is this (after hearing from so many doctors and realizing they all seem to have little knowledge as to what causes them or even why we have tonsils, since we can survive without them...like the gall bladder and appendix), I believe the tonsil is like lymph nodes in the body, only one that is visible. I believe they are clearing houses for impurities and the substance that is extruded from them is the bacteria and impurities that float around in our systems. I also believe these 'pockets' are actually 'outlets' for this bacteria and when you have an infection in the throat area or possibly even the ear area, the bacteria will build up and be excreted from the tonsils, thus causing a 'flare up'of 'stones'. Otherwise, how do you explain the fluid that comes from these pockets if it isn't being excreted from within the tonsil itself? I've never believed the 'food stuck' theory. To me, its like saying pimples come from the outside and go under your skin that's why they have pus in them. Wrong! I'll stress, though, not being a doctor, this in my theory.
    At least it sounds more logical to me than some of the ridiculous things doctors come up with!

    Anyway, when you have a flare up of these things, it might be a signal that there is infection going on somewhere in your body. Try keeping your mouth clean as possible...don't forget brushing that tongue as far back as possible and gargle. Have dental check-ups. And, above all, be very careful poking around back there and if you have to, make sure your fingers (or tool) is sterile as possible!

    For all we know everyone's tonsils are the same, but some people just don't get any problems related to them. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I've been there, so you all have my sympathy and understanding...for what its worth. 'NITE ALL!

     
    Old 04-29-2003, 08:58 AM   #34
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    That sounds like a good theory to me.
    I really don't understand the whole thing myself because if it were food, then why don't the "stones" look like food at all. I know that if they are in there long enough, then it turns to bacteria and all and won't look like the food we ate. But still, I can go from not having any in my tonsils to all of a sudden having a crapload of stuff in there. None of it which looks to be 'fresh' food. So if it all of a sudden appears then why is it 'decayed' already????? So, that theory sounds possible to me. Mmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder.
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    Can't deal with it anymore so I'm having a discectomy in Sept. Hoping and praying that it takes care of my problems!!

     
    Old 04-29-2003, 10:47 AM   #35
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    Hi, I am new but felt I must reply to my fellow australian with the ichy ears and throat with lump problem. I too have ichy ears, I feel like sticking a long thin tool into my ear to scratch. I also suffer with the white or yellow tonsil balls, and a chronic sore throat, and a lump on one side of my inner throat.

    I saw a ENT who could not see the lump, he said, he basically patted me on the head and ushered me out, saying everything was normal. Beware the bulk billing specialist.

    The deep itch in the ear and itchy throat are very bad and also keep me up and agitated. I have a anaethsatizing spray for my throat, way out of date, but I don't care. I need it too sleep. I also have chronic white ulceration on my throat which fluctuates as to its severity. I would appreciate any insite also as to this itchiness. I also get occassional tinitus, no idea if that is linked. And my hearing fluctuates. Again, no idea if that is connected.

    Well, goodnite, I go to attempt sleep with sore throat and ear.....


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    Old 04-30-2003, 09:21 PM   #36
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    Hi all, you crack me up!!!

    not2bad's theory was basically what the doctor told me when I begged him to let me have my tonsils out years ago. The stuff that's coating them inside is mucus and sloughs off and gets mixed up with the food or other impurites that are in the saliva..etc. Mucous in the tonsils protects the body from the bad stuff that goes in through the mouth, the same as the nose does.

    But, when the tonsils are overloaded from constant viruses, bacteria (usually strep), they can't clear up and work efficiently for the body anymore...so, they are taken out. There's nothing like having two balls at the back of the throat with concentrated bacteria being constantly swallowed. Yum!

    I suppose the name of the stones could be "tonsil poop" or "tonsil snot", but those names are already taken by other orifices...maybe there is a clinical name for them? Ah, another quest!!

    cassandra2000 - I have itchy ears and use hydrocortisone (prescribed) on a q-tip (those things can be used for other things than squeezing tonsils). They're mostly itchy at night and I just dip one side into the cream, and twirl away. I use the other side for the other ear. Of course....I am realllly careful! BUT it feeels sooooo goooood!! Ahhh!

    I found the brand name Q-Tips SUCK!! I use the brand from SuperStore. They're more flexible, and the cotton tips are wound tightly. The Q-tips hurt, also!


    Hope you all yave a great day! TBC, I hope.

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    Old 05-01-2003, 05:21 AM   #37
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    What are Q-tips? Are they what we in Oz call 'cotton buds'? (little stick with twirls of cotton on each end)
    I can't beleive how many people have this problem. Here i was thinking it was all in my head - which is basically what an ENT specialist once told me.
    This condition is not being taken seriously at all, and i can't help but wonder that now people are actually starting to talk about it that it might not be as uncommon as we all thought. Pretty disheartening though when you explain to a Doctor at length about horrible smelly things coming out of your mouth and they look at you like a freak. This condition has been really taxing on my life for a long time now and it's not getting any better. My voice is getting really hoarse lately and i beleive that it's from the constant swallowing of this mucousy stuff (infection) down the throat. As my hobby is to sing in a folk club and play guitar i'm getting quite scared that this is it for my voice and i'm convinced it's all to do with this condition.
    The smelly balls are called 'tonsiloliths' and i too have been told that it is food, which we all know is not quite right.
    Finding your stories has given me the much needed determination to go back to the Doctor and show him a printout of this messageboard and demand to have my tonsils removed. Anything would be better than living with this forever so the pain of a tonsillectamy isn't too offputting.
    Thanks for your honesty.
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    Old 05-01-2003, 01:12 PM   #38
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    Norie, most often they're caused by post-nasal drip that isn't controlled well. Bacteria builds up more often when you have this condition and produces stones in some people. It sounds very much like that could be your problem as you're saying you have excess mucous and a horse voice, both or which are signs of post-nasal drip. It may be wise to try a few different nasal sprays before getting your tonsils out.

    Your tonsils are there because they fight off infection. Most often they're taken out due to numerous throat infections that can't be controlled with medications.

    The stones are not caused by food. They're much like plaque on teeth actually. They can build up very fast, just like if you didn't brush your teeth for a few days.

    Good luck

     
    Old 05-30-2003, 04:59 PM   #39
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    I am so glad to hear I am not the only one with this problem. I was told by many doctors that I was imagining the crap in my tonsils, that I was crazy, and even had doctors say that they had no idea what I was talking about and that noone had ever told them of this before. I am so glad I am not the only one who gets this yellowish crap that smells and tastes like rotten oysters/clams. I hate to hear other people have this problem...but glad to hear I am not in this alone. My tonsils are always hard, and I get crap out on a daily basis. It sucks. I am always afraid that I have bad breath and that I am offending others around me. I have worked in the health-care field for 10 years, and up until this year I had not heard of anyone else with this problem. One day I was telling my embarrassing story to a girl and work and to my great suprise she finished my sentence and told me she had the problem too. She was lucky enough to have a doctor who listenend her and took her tonsils out. She has felt better physically and emotionally since that date. Unfortunately no doc's will give me the option. I'd have them taken out in a heartbeat. I know the risks, and I would still do it. I'd give just about anything to get rid of these crappy tonsils. I have lupus...I don't see how these darn tonsils can be helping me any...seems like I'd be better off with them gone...the docs seem to not agree. Well, thanks for letting me vent!

     
    Old 06-01-2003, 09:50 AM   #40
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    I have also had the same problem for years. My regular doctor was clueless, I insisted on a throat culture, and even the tech doing the culture was clueless. I then went to an ENT, who knew right away what the problem was. He gave me a prescription for antibiotics, and told me to keep the area clean. He out and out said that I should NOT have my tonsils removed because of my age. It would be an absolute last resort. I have now for years been using a water pik, and add either cepacol or some kind of antibacterial mouthwash to the water. I do this daily, and the only time those nasty smelly things show up are if I don't use the water pik for a couple of days. I always know when they are there, in addition to the bad breath, I feel generally sick, sore neck glands, ears, and throat. Traveling with the water pik is a pain, but it is the only thing that will stop all the symptoms.

     
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    Hi moocow35,

    Could you explain "exactly" the process you use with the waterpic. Also, when your ENT said to keep them clean....what was his suggestion? I do the squeezing method which I've "perfected"...but I'm interested in your method.

    Thanks muchly,
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    Old 06-02-2003, 01:31 PM   #42
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    I stumbled across this site about a month ago and couldn't believe my eyes. There were other people out there just like me. I immediately made an appointment with my primary care doctor. She then referred me to an ENT. I was very relieved that the ENT didn't think I was crazy, and he recommended that I have my tonsils removed. Well, I had the procedure this past Friday. I am a 28 year old healthy female and I don't know if it was all worth it or not yet. I still am in pain. The liquid med (pain killer) that the doc gave me made me vomit non-stop. I almost wound up back in the hospital due to dehydration. Fortunately, after stopping the medication,the vomiting also stopped. So, now I am only taking Extra Strength Tylenol. It helps alot, but I definately know when I am ready for my next dose. I'm sure I will live, and be very happy with my decision to have them removed when I am all healed and I don't have to deal with these "little nasties",(as a previous writer referred to them), anymore!

     
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    I get those. my family call them tonsil *******. kinda gross eh?
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    Old 06-03-2003, 08:06 PM   #45
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    Hi Quincy,

    I fill the reservior cup of the water pic with warmish water, and add about 1/4 of the cup with either cepacol or listerine. I have mastered getting the tip of the water pik, (without gagging) at the lowest setting, way back into the opening of my tonsils and irrigate the hole. I also pull the area open with the tip of the water pik to make sure all the area gets flushed. It takes practice, but believe me, it is worth it not to have the bad breath, and the ill feeling of swollen glands and ear pain. I have been doing this for a good 3 years now. It has become part of my morning routine, brush the teeth, and water pik the tonsils LOL. I think the ENT meant keep the area clean, just by what I am doing. He is the one that suggested this. Makes my Dentist happy also, cause I also do in between my teeth every morning. It works wonders for me, and being in my mid 40's, my ENT was really serious about having the tonsils out would have a very bad effect on me. He basically refused to do it. I used to use a Q tip, and that was painful and made my tonsils bleed. This actually feels good, maybe cause I know my breath doesn't have that awful stench. No more breath mints constantly.

    Let me know if you have any other questions.

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