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Old 11-05-2003, 12:12 PM   #1
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is there definitive test?

it took me a very very long time to associate many of my symptoms with environmental sensitivities. i know perfumes, shampoos, hairsprays, soaps, detergents, cleaners etc etc all make me ill. I start to get a panicky sweat, my heart begins to pound, racing, my bp climbs, i feel naseous and woozy. i shake and begin to breathe quickly, and it all goes pretty badly, i have spent 17 weeks with endless migraines. my question is, proving that it is environmentally provoked. is there a test or anything that could validate what i claim? this is important as it is part (one part)of a disability claim. thanks to all who respond.

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Old 11-05-2003, 10:09 PM   #2
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Yes, an allergist could certainly test to see if what you listed are truley the cause of the symptoms you are having.

Old 11-05-2003, 10:30 PM   #3
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Yes, there is a test you can learn to do!

Imagine a way to know if that berry in your hand will give you hives before you eat it and suffer, or a way to test in advance to see if that new medication your child or elderly mother is about to take will cause side effects. Imagine safely and gently testing a newborn for the formula he is about to be given. Imagine the end to your stomach pain simply by your finding out what foods to avoid. Imagine finding out after years of day-after-Thanksgiving migraines that you are allergic to turkey and chicken. Or that your asthma following every visit to the dentist was caused by his latex gloves. Imagine being able to eat chocolate after being allergic to it for years. Imagine having the power to find out for yourself what helps your body and what hurts it. None of these ideas is hypothetical. "Muscle testing" is a simple and accurate process anyone can learn to do, and learning this process gives us a control and a power of choice that can be life-changing, perhaps even life-saving.

When I began to research muscle testing (also known as kinesiology), I was told it was unreliable. Ten years and thousands of tests later, however, I have found it to be totally accurate -- as long as I understand the quirks of the process, and I control for possible error, which is not hard to do. Do a web search on Applied Kinesiology to learn how.

Old 11-06-2003, 08:21 PM   #4
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Here is a basic test you can try right away. It is simple, and can be practiced until you know you have the "feel."

Directions for the subject: Extend your arm out sideways from the shoulder at an angle a little above 90 degrees. Find the comfortable "shelf" -- an easy muscle lock that holds the arm up. Keep wrist and hand straight, not limp. The tester will give a firm but gentle press. Don't fight by pushing upward; just keep the lock and resist the downward push. The other hand rests on your stomach.

Directions for the tester:
Stand behind the subject.
Rest a hand on the subject's shoulder of the arm
not raised. With your other hand touch the raised wrist without leaning or pressing. Warn the subject, saying something like "Ready? Resist!" Then press firmly but not suddenly for about a second, and feel for the resistance, and find that shelf that holds the arm up. Don't press so hard that the arm is forced down. You want to feel for the shelf, that comfortable stopping point, where the lock is firm. Everyone should stay fresh and comfortable, no exhaustion or muscle strain.
An empty hand on the subject's stomach measures baseline muscle strength. The subject's hand holding a substance against the stomach tests the substance. The tester compares the muscle resistance of the two attempts. Is the muscle weaker? Is the "shelf" gone, leaving the outstretched arm to buckle completely with the same pressure? The weakness in the arm indicates the amount of weakness for that substance. When I tested allergic, my muscle disappeared. It felt so strange to have my arm drop, as if I weren't ready for the push. But a repeat of the baseline for strength reassured us the results were real.

Because this process measures the subtle energy field around the body, it can be influenced by strong negative energy. A tester biased against the substance ("that milk must be bad for her") could cause a false "weak." When you test, try to just feel the shelf and not think too much about it.

You can get control of an allergic situation and start your own miracles.

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