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    Old 03-08-2006, 03:09 AM   #1
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    Question double vision

    I posted before and thought I'd try again/ I have double vision in both eyes. When I close one eye I have it and the same with the other eye. Does anyone else have this problem? I have seen 5 dr's so far and they have no idea whats going on. I do have an appointment with a neuro ortho. the end of the month. anyone have an idea or have this problem as well?

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    Old 04-10-2006, 01:56 PM   #2
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    Re: double vision

    Hey Joe,
    I've been experiencing double vision also, just minor episodes. My eyes will float independently of each other, just BARELY, but enought to be disturbing. This will last for 3-4 seconds and repeat every 5 or 10 minutes for several days. Then I'm fine for months before experiencing it again.

    But the double vision goes away if I close one eye, which I always do for a few seconds. What does yours feel like? I feel like there's a little guy in my head gently pulling on the eye muscles like a set of reins.

    By the way, I have early muscular dystrophy but the docs don't think it's necessarily related.

    Good luck with it all. How'd the neuro appointment go.

    Mark

     
    Old 04-11-2006, 04:27 AM   #3
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    Hi Mark, Lets see, I went to the neuro optho and I didn't have the double vision too bad that day <just like when you get a tooth ache the pain goes away in the dentist office> He's ruling it out as "Dry Eye" so I followed his instructions, heat compress and eye drops <artifical tears> and I still have the problem along with nasty headaches. Today I'm going to see a cornea specialist <He also looked at my eyes for a short time and I didn't think he bought the neuro's "Dry Eye" syndrone.

    My double vision is almost constant, The eye muscles are fine and both eyes are healthy I've been told. If I cover one eye I still have double vision and the same if I cover the other eye. I did have an MRI of the brain, The neuro told me that "He could tell it's nothing neurological and didn't haveto read the MRI report" He had a cornea specialist come in and take a quick look at my eyes and When the neuro optho told him he thought it was "Dry Eye" the cornea looked at my lower eye lid and told me if I am still having problems to make an appointment with him. I called his office and they told me that the only appointment was "May 23rd" I said "Oh No, unexceptable, I been pout of work since Jan, I can no longer drive and I need an appointment sooner "This was yesterday monday" I got an appointment for the next day. I was not going to wait another month. As far as having a feeling that someone is in my head, If there is the have a 5 pound hammer because the headaches are brutal. I have seen since Jan. an Optomistrist twice, He perscribed glasses that cost me 500.00 that didn't work, 1 Optho twice, sent to another optho who I seen once, They refered me to another optho in the same practice and when I called I asked if the Dr was a neuro opho and they told me she is a pediatric optho, I'm 51 years old and told her to cancel that appointment. I have seen 1 neuro optho, and 3 other optho's the same day and a cornea specialist took a quick look < a glance> at my eyes and I don't think he bought the "Dry Eye" thing at all. I have my eyes lenses <sp> measured and was told that any measurment over 40 was high and in my left eye it was 45 and the right eye was 49, I have no idea what that means but will ask today. Sorry about the long responce, But, I want people to know that if the yfeel that they are being bounced around and can't get an appointment for a problem they been having for awhile is to not take an appoint a month later if you been having the problem as I have been having since Jan. Also when walking down the street, It's hard to make out people's features because the double vision distorts the features. My true image for me is the one on top not the one under it.
    Good luck Mark and I wish you the best, I would see about your double vision also, the eyes are nothing to mess around with. BTW I am a finish carpenter and have to be atleast close to one of the lines , laugh.

     
    Old 04-11-2006, 05:55 AM   #4
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    Re: double vision

    Joe, it's unfortunate you cancelled the appt with the PO. They see adults as well as children and are experts on eye muscles because they see so many children with strabismus (misaligned eyes). Don't know if she could have helped because you have a different kind of double vision from Mark. Double vision in individual eyes is usually an eye problem--the light entering the eye is being bent/distorted and landing in two places on the retina; whereas Mark's brain can't fuse the two disparate images from each eye.
    It's odd that all those doctors couldn't come up with a definite cause. Dry eye can be the culprit. It's something that affects both eyes and can begin suddenly. Other causes, like bad astigmatism wouldn't affect both eyes the same way at the same time.
    What happened in January?

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    Old 04-11-2006, 06:55 AM   #5
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    Re: double vision

    Hi Keela, Actually I noticed it when working I put a line on a piece of wood and seen two lines <I looked at the pencils tip to be sure> that was last summer but it went away and came back this january and I'm still having problems. I also have had a few bouts of vertigo <I never had this before, kinda scarey> I seem to have some good days and some very bad days. The bad are when I can't make out peoples features until they are very close. It also seems to start at looking long distance at first. For example, looking at an airplane I usually see two, birds flying same one onto of the other. Lastnight looking at the moon, also looking at planes at night the lights double kinda looks like a <space ship> but I know better watching tv at night is difficult also double images. Typing now I am seeing double <one just below the other> As far as Dry Eye, I did the warm compresses, natural tear drops and this has not helped. I had my eyes tested and the Optomitrist said my vision was 50/20, When I went to the Neuro Optho my eye sight was
    30/20 <that day I have little double vision, just a light shadow> Hopefully today the cornea specialist will have an idea.

    Thanks for the responce,
    Joe

    PS: I did find this on the web "double vision and will get worse with increasing distance because the two
    > end focal points get farther apart. For you engineers and mathematicians,
    > pull out Fincham's book "Optics"...required optometric reading, and find the
    > reference to "Sturm's Conoid."

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    Old 04-11-2006, 12:00 PM   #6
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    Re: double vision

    JoeD617

    You might of found the right answers to your monocular diplopia when you referred to "Sturm's Conoid". Your corneas my have just developed a small degree of astigmatism,and some times you are trying to commensate for it, and other times you are unable to. In other words (back to Sturm's Conoid),you are straining and squinting your eye to acheive the "circle of least confusion" from the astigmatic corneral surface, to focus on the retina. This is purely an optical explation which will need a very exacting refraction by a seasoned optometrist.

    Good luck with your remainig eye drs.

    Eyes

     
    Old 04-11-2006, 02:50 PM   #7
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    Re: double vision

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    You might of found the right answers to your monocular diplopia when you referred to "Sturm's Conoid". Your corneas my have just developed a small degree of astigmatism,and some times you are trying to commensate for it, and other times you are unable to. In other words (back to Sturm's Conoid),you are straining and squinting your eye to acheive the "circle of least confusion" from the astigmatic corneral surface, to focus on the retina. This is purely an optical explation which will need a very exacting refraction by a seasoned optometrist.

    Good luck with your remainig eye drs.

    Eyes
    The circle of least confusion!! I haven't heard that term in a while. And Eyes is right, it sounds like astigmatism, which is a common cause of monocular diplopia. The only problem is that you've seen a whole bunch of optometrists and ophthalmologists and still have a problem. I would assume that by now they've ruled out astigmatism.

     
    Old 04-11-2006, 03:03 PM   #8
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    Re: double vision

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    You might of found the right answers to your monocular diplopia when you referred to "Sturm's Conoid". Your corneas my have just developed a small degree of astigmatism,and some times you are trying to commensate for it, and other times you are unable to. In other words (back to Sturm's Conoid),you are straining and squinting your eye to acheive the "circle of least confusion" from the astigmatic corneral surface, to focus on the retina. This is purely an optical explation which will need a very exacting refraction by a seasoned optometrist.

    Good luck with your remainig eye drs.

    Eyes
    Hi Eyes, I just got back and whew, I'm being treated again for Dry Eye so today the cornea specialist put plugs in. I'll try this and if it doesn't work I'll scream somemore <laugh>. Strums Conoid made sence to me, But I am not an eye Dr. I found that referance out of frustration. I'll keep you posted as far as the plugs and my progress.
    Thanks for the reply,
    Joe

    PS the plugs are an uncomfortable feeling.

     
    Old 04-11-2006, 05:28 PM   #9
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    Re: double vision

    Joe :

    Just think this : if,in fact, your problem is dry eye,that a extra layer or tears over your corena, produces a "new" smooth sperical surface over the "out of round" corena (astigmatic surface);than all rays of light will refract to a point focus. Therefore, no monoclar double vision. (Bye -Bye Sturm's Conoid).

    I truly hope your punta plugs will "dam"up enough tears to give you a tear layer of clear single vision with a spherical corneal surface.

    The discomfort with the "plugs" will disappear. It's your only suggested treatment,so far ! Squactchimo is correct, you surely have seen your share of Eye Drs wilth no Dx.

    Something is got to work

    Eyes

     
    Old 04-12-2006, 02:59 AM   #10
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    Re: double vision

    Hi Guyz, The cornea specialist did say on a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being the worse I am in the beginning stage of cataracts the number he gave me was a "1" . He also said if this didn't work he may condicer lense replacement but wanted to try everything all other options first. <atleast he isn't knife happy> I hope it is dry eye at this point and the plugs work so I can get on with life. I don't feel the plugs as much this am. I have noticed that I am blinking more than I use too, could be due to the extra moisture in the eyes.

    Thanks again,
    Joe

     
    Old 04-15-2006, 10:25 PM   #11
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    Hi folks and Update, I had the plugs put in my lower ducts. I been drowning my eyes with artifical tears, I use the gel at night and am taking the flax oil. The double vision is getting somewhat better I am having much less double vision. Who would have thought that dry eye would cause this. But my eyes feel very tired. I was also told I don't blink as often as I should. I'll try to keep the updates and when things settle down will have my eyes checked for glasses again seeing how my vision seems to be clearing up a bit.

    Good Luck everyone,
    Joe

     
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