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purple2067 01-10-2003 09:13 AM

can allergy drops make your eyes feel worse?
I have used tons and tons of different kinds of allergy drops. You name it, I have tried it. Recently my doctor switched me from Livostin to Alocril. The Livostin was helping a little bit, but my dr is still experimenting and trying to find the best drop for me. I had used Alocril about a year and a half ago. But he took me off of it, because while I did not have a problem with it back then, it also did not help me at all. But the thing is, now my eyes are much more sensitive. For some reason, when I use the Alocril now it burns my eyes and makes them sting and itch, and it doesn't really stop unless I flush them out with tears. But sometimes my eyes water a lot, and flush it out on their own! My eyes don't get red or anything, but they just get very uncomfortable. I have tried putting in tear drops directly before I put in the Alocril in order to lubricate the surface of the eye, but that doesn't help much. In general, my eyes are now watering much more than before. Can I be having an allergic reaction to the allergy drops? I have only been using them for 3 days, so I want to give it a few more days before I call my dr.

Eartha 01-16-2003 09:34 PM

I have used Alocril before and it helped.
You may have an allergy to it or one of the inactive ingredients.
I have "dry eyes" and watering is one of the symptons,
sounds odd, but dry eyes are different that tearing.
The itchy could be the low lubercation that dry eye
Just my thoughts.

purple2067 01-16-2003 10:20 PM

Yeah, I think I am allergic to the Alocril. I used it for a little while last year and did not have a problem with it. (but it also did not work for me!)
But since then, my eyes have become so much more sensitive. My eye dr doesn't know what to do with me anymore. I have seen all kinds of specialists, some of the best in the world. I thought I was starting to get it under control. I had been using Livostin, which helps a tiny bit (but since none of the other allergy drops out there help at ALL, this is the best one for me). Anyway, at my last visit I asked him if he had any samples of the Livostin so that I would not have to get my prescription refilled. He said "No, but I have something better". He came in with Alocril. I figured "ok, why not try it again. It can't hurt". Well I used it that night and immediately after I put it in, my eyes started to itch and burn. I let it stay in there for a few minutes but eventually had to flush them out with tears. I thought that maybe my eyes were just unusually irritated that night, (more so than usual) and wasn't sure that it really had anything to do with the Alocril. So I kept using it. But instead of feeling better I started to feel worse. My eyes got more and more irritated, and my face started to turn red underneath my eyes. But of course, by then it was the weekend and my doctor was out of town. So I emailed him and he wrote back to me and told me to stop using it. I did, and the redness on my face is gone, but I still do not feel any better at all!

Now he thinks that I may have a slight case of conjuntivitis on top of everything else. I have not seen him, but have been in constant contact with him over the phone, and he prescribed anti-biotic drops and told me to call him in 2 days (which will be today) and let him know how I am feeling. I will probably have to see him over the weekend. The thing is, I have terribly severe dry eyes as well as extremely bad allergy eyes. Usually I can manage it with tear drops and Livostin, as well as a few other over the counter drops. But for some reason the Alocril just set me off, and I feel so much worse.

I know that the watering can be from dryness (I have been dealing with this for way to long not to know that) but why did it get so much worse when I started using the Alocril? This doesn't feel like the usual dryness. And why has it not gotten better now that I have stopped it? Ugh, I am so fed up already.

yellowroselisa 01-23-2003 11:35 AM

When I used Bausch & Lomb all clear AR it burned when I put it in, then the next morning both eyes were all swollen. Has anyone had this happen?

purple2067 01-23-2003 05:41 PM

I had something similar happen when I used an anti-biotic ointment called Neomycin. My internist, not my ophthalmologist had prescribed it for me. And after using it my eyes got beat red and very very itchy, and were burning and I had all kinds of mucus coming out of them. That's when I went to an ophthalmologist who told me that I am allergic to that ointment, as are a lot of people. You probably had an allergic reaction to one or more of the ingredients of the Bausch and Lomb eye drops. If you need to use tear drops, make sure that they are preservative free, like Bion Tears or Tears Naturale Free, or Thera Tears. All preservative free eyedrops come only in individually dosed units. And if you need to use allergy drops, go to an ophthalmologist and get a prescription for something like Patanol or Alocril (it's usually a very good drop...just because I had a reaction to it doesn't mean that you will.) I don't trust any of the over the counter drops. A lot of them are very harsh on the eyes, particularly if your eyes are already sensitive to begin with. I Especially don't trust the ones that advertise that they get rid of the redness. Sure, they may get rid of the redness, but what about the underlying problem that is causing the redness to begin with? All they do is mask the problem. I suggest that you go to an ophthalmologist and find out what the cause of your problem is. What made you use eye drops in the first place?

Good luck,

[This message has been edited by purple2067 (edited 01-23-2003).]

yellowroselisa 01-27-2003 10:07 AM

Thanks Elyse for your response! When I was getting contacts he told me I had allergy in my eyes so I just figured I would try something from the store, never again. I have over used drops in the past to get red out never knowing that could cause a problem. Do you know if doing that your eyes stay red or what? I have not used anything in them since I had that swelling except my contact stuff. I also have a few red lines in my eyes that have been there the last 19 years because they told me it was from pushing so hard during chirlbirth! Also, do you think its the allergy I have thats causing the red? Sorry so many questions, I have only had my contacts about 6 months! :)

purple2067 01-28-2003 07:30 PM

Feel free to ask me all the questions you want. :) I'm not a doctor, so if I don't have all the answers, but I am more than happy to give advice!

I do not wear contacts. I tried them for about a week and they kept falling out. Months later I discovered that it was because my eyes were so dry that I did not have any tear film for them to float in.

Is the Bausch and Lomb drop that you used a re-wetting solution or something for contacts? Maybe it is the contact lenses themselves that are irritating you.

I think that if the red lines have been there for 19 years then they probably are from pushing too hard during childbirth. I believe that sometimes if you push too hard you can pop some of the tiny blood vessels in the eye, which can cause the red lines to appear. It's nothing dangerous though. The same thing can happen if you hold your nose when you sneeze. I think that anything which puts pressure on your eyes and face can cause that.

If your eyes got redder after using the over the counter drops then you probably had an allergic reaction to them. I imagine that would probably take a few days or weeks to go away, but an ophthalmologist can prescribe some allergy drops like Patanol to make the allergic reaction go away. And who knows? Maybe that will get rid of the itching or whatever it was that caused you to use the Bausch and Lomb drops in the first place! The only over the counter drops that my dr told me are good are the Naphcon, Naphcon-A, Vasocon, or Vasocon-A. Those used to be prescription drops. They contain the same kind of preservatives as all of the other ones, but may actually get rid of the allergy rather than just masking it by taking the redness away. Drops like Visine for Allergies, Clear Eyes, etc... only make you think that the problem is going away. They take away the redness and possibly some of the discomfort, but they do not do anything for the cells in the eyes which cause the symptoms when they get all out of whack! (for lack of a medical term!) That's the best way that I can explain it.

If I were you, I would go see an ophthalmologist. You probably just need a simple allergy drop. And in the mean time try using some simple preservative free tears like the Bion Tears that I mentioned in my last post.

[This message has been edited by purple2067 (edited 01-28-2003).]

yellowroselisa 01-29-2003 11:09 AM

No, I use a different product for my contacts. I had taken the contacts out and put in the Bausch & Lomb AR at night and then the next moring both eyes were so swollen. I have not used any drops since then except for the ones for my contacts. Thanks for the tips on what to get, I will look and see what i find!
Thanks again! :)

purple2067 01-29-2003 07:39 PM

You are very welcome. Please keep me posted on how you are doing, and if you don't feel better very soon get yourself to an ophthalmologist. :)

yellowroselisa 01-30-2003 09:57 AM

Thanks purple for helping me out! [img][/img]

purple2067 01-30-2003 08:16 PM

no problem yellow, we all have to stick together. :) Hope you are feeling better soon.

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