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    Old 10-10-2008, 12:37 AM   #1
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    Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

    Hi I'm new here and this is my 1st post.
    I have a strange problem with my eyesight.
    Since last year, I've been getting all sorts of wierd visual distubances that have baffled my doctors. I get these little spots in my eyes, one at a time in each eye and in different locations. They look like 'afterimages' like from a camera flash or a sun spot, only I didn't look at a light. The bright spot will last hours, days, and occasionally a couple of weeks. Sometimes they totally go away, but the ones that linger the longest turn into tiny blind or blank spots in my vision, which remain permanant and don't move.
    I also get many temporary aura-like spots every day but I don't have migraines with them.
    I've been to several opthomologists, a retina specialist, and neurologists. I've had many of the tests - OCTs, visual fields, ERG, MRI, angiogram. No signs of any problem were found, except the last opthomologist I saw told me he could see very tiny floater-like debris sitting on or stuck to my retina. The locations of the debris he saw were in the exact locations of my blind spots. He didn't think it was anything to worry over, but I think anything that's creating blind spots is worrisome....
    I know there are other people with the same problems and I wonder if anyone else has ever had a doctor make a similar observation and what it could be?

     
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    Old 10-14-2008, 06:09 PM   #2
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    Re: Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

    go to an eye doctor and get an OCT immediately. ask about cytoid macular edema.. i suffer from this and it can be treated. if it is not, it inevitably will lead to blindness..

     
    Old 10-14-2008, 11:03 PM   #3
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    Re: Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

    Clr18287, thanks for your reply. Actually I've had about 4 OCT tests done over the year, the most recent was a month ago. Everything looked normal. The doctor I saw told me that OCTs only test a limited area around central vision, but problems in the peripheral vision may not be in the range of the scan.

    What were your symptoms like? Were they similar to mine? How long did it take before you got a diagnosis?

     
    Old 10-15-2008, 06:09 AM   #4
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    Kabees: Are the spots all over your visual field, or just central, or just peripheral?

     
    Old 10-16-2008, 02:21 AM   #5
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    They're scattered randomly in my peripheral vision, but I have a spot in my right eye somewhat near my central vision.

     
    Old 12-11-2008, 07:52 PM   #6
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    Re: Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

    Hi,
    I am very interested in any answers you may get about your blind spots. I have been searching for an answer for almost 4 years now. It started with a "strobe light" type of flashing in my left eye on Sunday afternoon and within 2 days had become a significant size blind spot. I had multiple test on my eyes, blood test, MRI (the drs thought maybe MS), etc. with no answer. A few months after the first one another flashing started and then turned into another blind spot. Anyway, here I am 4 years later, I finally got tired of all of the drs and just hoped I would not develop anymore since they seemed to quit, I was just left with a blind spot in each eye, well about a month and a half ago another blind spot showed up, this time with only a few little flashes of light. I haven't gone to see any dr about this one because I am tired of sitting and waiting only to be told nothing. I have even been to the eye foundation hospital and still no answer. The say my eyes are perfectly healthy as far as that goes but they can not tell me why I have the spots. I would at least like an answer if I will eventually be totally blind or not. Your description of your eye problems are the closest I have read to what mine are like that is why I am interested in any answer you get. Thanks

     
    Old 12-12-2008, 12:13 AM   #7
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    Hi bekah

    Sorry to hear you are going through what seems to be the same mysterious problem. You're not alone, there are quite a few others that have posted here and elsewhere reporting the same symptoms and so far I have yet to see anyone say they got a diagnosis or found any treatment.

    I also get lots of temporary shimmery spots all the time, every day. They seem to be similar to migraine auras. Do you ever get these too or have ever had migraines? I was 28 when I first noticed this blind spot thing, I'm curious how old you were when yours started?

    I'm going back to the doctor I saw a few months ago to have him look some more at my eyes and ask a few more questions. If anything new comes up I'll let you know.

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    Old 12-12-2008, 05:08 AM   #8
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    Bekah, did you have a fluorescein angiogram?

     
    Old 12-12-2008, 09:52 AM   #9
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    My first spot was when I was 31. I just turned 35. In the course of trying to find out what was wrong a neurologist told me that I have migraines. I have never had really bad headaches just cluster headaches but never associated with the blind spots, the neuro put me on preventative meds for the migraines and just kind of forgot about the eye problems. I don't feel I need the meds for the mirgraines because I don't have many at all. I just feel so frustrated about this, I have always been pretty healthy, except one condition I was diagnosed with during pregnancy, Antiphospholipid sydrome, I have often wondered if this was the cause of the spots but all the drs assure me that it is not. I had many pregnancy problems because of this sydrome which can cause blood clots. I take an aspirin a day but other than that I have no other problems, just the eyes.

     
    Old 12-12-2008, 09:56 AM   #10
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    Re: Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

    No, I have actually never heard of this.

     
    Old 12-12-2008, 10:04 AM   #11
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    Re: Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

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    Bekah, did you have a fluorescein angiogram?
    I had just posted that I had not had a fluorescein angiogram, I have had so many tests that I was not sure what this one was so I just looked it up and I have actually had 2 of these done.

     
    Old 12-13-2008, 08:42 AM   #12
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    When the strobe light like flashing occurs it is continuous for 2-3 days and then becomes a blind spot. These spots have never gone away nor changed in anyway since I first had them, the first one almost 4 years ago. I do, however, experience quick flashes of light sometimes, these come and go, they are sort of like I look directly into a bright light and then look away and have the little flashes from looking at the light, but of course I have not done that. In the time since the original blind spot occurred, I have had 2 more significant blind spots appear, the 2nd was just like the first with the strobe light first for a couple of days and then the blind spot, the 3rd was just a few flashes off and on for a few days and then the blind spot. The 1st spot is in the peripheral vision of my left eye, the 2nd in the peripheral vision of my right eye but this new one is just slightly off from the center of my vision in my right eye. I have learned to adjust to the first 2 but the 3rd is harder since it is very near my center of vision. I also have little small spots throughout the center of my vision which started after the 1st spot. I hear all the time that they must be floaters, but they have remained in exactly the same spot and never changed in 3 1/2 years so I don't believe this fits the definition of floaters. I had a retina specialist at the eye foundation tell me about 3 years ago that it was something to do with my retina and the spots would all be gone in 6-8 months, well as I said 3 1/2 years later they are still there.

    As I said in previous post, they did tell me that it could be MS but I have had 3 Head MRI's in the 4 years and there is nothing to indicate MS.

    To answer some of the questions, I don't work, I am a stay at home mom. As I had said previously, I don't have any medical conditions that could answer the question as to why this is happening. I actually decided that after 1 1/2 years of sitting in waiting rooms, paying co-pays, etc. that I was done with trying to get an answer from the doctors. My first 2 spots had not changed nor had any new ones come up so I thought that maybe it was just a freak thing that I would learn to live with but then a little over a month ago the new spot showed up. I am very concerned now because over the course of the 4 years I have lost a good bit of my vision so I wonder what will happen in the next 5-10 years, will I go completely blind? Anyway, I know this is a long post but this is so frustrating to me and I just hope that someone that reads this can say, here is your problem and here is what will happen or how you can stop it from happening.

     
    Old 12-14-2008, 12:55 AM   #13
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    Bekah,
    about how big are your abnormal blind spots? Most of mine are very small and round. The largest ones I have can block out my computer mouse arrow if I sit a foot or so away from the screen.

     
    Old 12-14-2008, 05:54 AM   #14
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    Bekah, you are keeping close track of your spots, but I don't know if you use an Amsler grid. If not, look it up online. In a pinch, you could use graph paper. Plot the scotomas on the grid. There may be some you haven't noticed. Keep the grids as a progression report.

    It's my belief that the flashing, slivery spots are the photoreceptor cells firing, perhaps from lack of blood/oxygen. Then they die.

    I have large central blind spots that haven't been properly diagnosed in ten years. The docs call it retinal dystrophy or cone dystrophy, but say the retina doesn't show the damage of cone dystrophy. There are some conditions that cause your symptoms but the blind spots are supposed to go away, as your doctor said.

    I've also given up on going to different specialists. The last one was very interested in my family history and says all retinal dystrophies are genetic. There's nothing in my family background though.

    I've come across several people in the last eight years with the same problem.

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    Old 12-14-2008, 12:55 PM   #15
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    Re: Bright spots in vision that turn into blind spots

    KeelaC

    Thanks for the info, I do have one of the grids it was given to me by one of the many eye drs I have seen. I too looked closely into my family history and found nothing like my problem.
    It is easy to keep track of my spots because they are not small spots. I do have some small spots scattered throughout my vision but the 3 that I am most concerned about are rather large, I don't see through these spots at all, it is completely black and blurry around the edges.
    I do appreciate everyone's input, that is why I started posting on here, hopefully I can find an answer before I go totally blind.

     
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