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    Old 01-11-2005, 07:35 PM   #1
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    Chewing Oxycontin????

    Hello All,

    My husband returned from his trip two days early to surprise me. We spent the evenings having dinner & watching movies. He was biting off small pieces of his 80 mg pill, chewing it and chasing it down with orange juice. I couldn't believe my eyes. I expressed concern about him 'not taking them as prescribed', etc. He tried to pacify me by telling me he's not exceeding his daily dose. I mentioned the time release factor & told him that this worried me & asked why he was doing this. He said, "It makes everything all better..." I have a couple of questions. Maybe I'm too hopeful here, but is he trying to get me to confront him about this problem? Seems odd that he's suddenly doing this in front of me. So far, no sign of him crushing/snorting as his friend told me he is doing. Also, is chewing the pills a common method of abuse? How dangerous is this? How bad off is he? I will appreciate any input that anyone can provide about this.

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    Old 01-11-2005, 08:28 PM   #2
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    Hey Scared Wife--

    Well, I'm sorry to say, but what your hubby is doing is posing a definite threat to his health. You are right -- oxycontin pills are made as a time-release tablet which slowly releases the medicine into one's bloodstream over a period of time. When the tablets are crushed/chewed/snorted this mechanism is destroyed and all of the oxycodone is released at one time which has the potential to cause some serious damage to the body's organ systems. Oxycontin (oxycodone) is one of the most potent prescription pain killers available on the market today. They are also among the most widely abused of the prescription drugs. Abuse of this drug has resulted in many untimely deaths. It slows respiration and heartrate markedly, sometimes enough to stop it all together.

    If you suspect your husband is abusing this drug, have a talk with him. Prescription drugs such as oxycontin have a high potential for abuse & can damage the body & take over a person's life the same as any illicit drug can.

     
    Old 01-11-2005, 08:30 PM   #3
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    He said, "It makes everything all better..."

    ...

    I have a couple of questions. Maybe I'm too hopeful here, but is he trying to get me to confront him about this problem? Seems odd that he's suddenly doing this in front of me. So far, no sign of him crushing/snorting as his friend told me he is doing. "It makes everything all better..." Also, is chewing the pills a common method of abuse? How dangerous is this? How bad off is he? I will appreciate any input that anyone can provide about this.
    Is his statement referring to the legitamate benefits of hydrocodone or the addictive euphoria (I think it's the latter, but without hearing his tone I can't be sure).

    I don't know if he's trying to get you to confront his problem (consciously, at least), but if you feel there's a problem, then you should confront it (without being mean). I know that people have chewed Oxycontins before, since it destroys the time-release mechanism. It's good that he's not finishing a pill all at once, but you should see how much he eats every time, and how often he does that. Oxycontin's pretty strong stuff, I'd keep as close an eye as possible and try to confront him acceptingly and understandingly. Good luck.

     
    Old 01-11-2005, 09:07 PM   #4
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    Maybe you could *approach* him as opposed to *confronting* him. What I mean is, try to ask him open-ended questions that let him know you care and give him an opportunity to share with you without having to be *confronted.* For example, you could ask him how it makes him feel (in relation to the reason the pills were prescribed; I am assuming for a chronic pain issue?). If it's non-confrontational and he hasn't been abusing the pills long he may come clean with you and then you can help him get help.
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    Old 01-12-2005, 07:54 AM   #5
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    Chewing oxycontins is definately a way to get high because they are on a time release, so when you chew them you get the full effect right away. When I was going through some of the worst of my addiction I used to bite off pieces of oxy's when I knew that I was running low on pills to make them last longer. They are so addicting. I've been in a methadone maintenence program for four years now, and I know many people who have had to be on higher methadone doses for oxycontin abuse than people who are there for heroin. It is sad to see how many young people are coming to the methadone clinic and the majority of them are there because of oxycontin abuse.

    You obviously love your husband a lot and are worried about him with good cause. I understand how hard it is to stand back and watch the person that you love do this to themselves. My husband and I were both addicted to vicodin and oxycontins, which eventually led us to heroin. Fortunately, I was able to get into a methadone clinic and get my life together. But, I watched my husband get worse and worse and there was nothing I could do to stop it. I think a lot of times people have to hit their bottom before they are really willing and want to get help for addiction. For me my bottom was heroin. . . I was addicted to the pills for over five years and that led me to heroin when I couldn't find the pills. I snorted it for about six monthes and one day when I was getting high with a "friend" and I watched her put a needle in her arm and she was telling me how much better it was to do it that way . . .I made the decision that I had to do something drastic to quit no matter what it was and I went to a methadone clinic the next day. I always said that I would never put a needle in my arm but deep down I knew that if I didnt quit it was only a matter of time because I always said that I would never do heroin either. I was hurting my family, my parents, my three children and killing myself. That was my bottom. But, no matter how much I hurt my family with my addiction or how much they begged me to get help it had to come from me...I had to want it bad enough. Believe me I understand how hard it is to be on the other side of addiction too because I watched my husband and for a long time I thought that if he loved me enough that he would get his **** together. . . that if he really cared about me and our children that he would do something about it...but what it really came down to was that he didn't care about himself. I finally realized that there was nothing that I could do to make him quit and I went about my own business and focussed on my own recovery and on taking care of my children. My husband ended up going to prison and I'm on my own now with three kids...but Im clean...other than the methadone and someday I will get off of that too when the time is right.

    Take care of yourself and just remember that you can't make him stop. I hope things work out and I'll say an extra prayer for you guys.
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    Old 01-12-2005, 09:27 AM   #6
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    I am on my second week of quitting an Oxycontin addiciton, cold turkey. I snorted them for 1 1/2 years and was doing about 20 - 40mgs daily and upped it to about 60mgs on each Saturday and then 60mgs again on Sunday. Then, about 2 months ago, just before the holidays, I jumped up to doing about 100 - 140mgs daily.

    Oxys really are the most powerful pain pills you can get. By removing the time release coating and crushing and sniffing or by chewing them up in your mouth and swalloing them, you do bypass the timerelease and a euphoric feeling hits you. If you drink alcohol with it, as I was doing, it increased it even more. The pills gave me happiness, energy, enthusiasm.

    The problem is that it is physically and mentally addictive. Physcially, when you go through withdrawls from Oxys, it will literally kick your butt. Major flu like symptoms, extreme insomnia for a couple days, no appetite for several days, aches, pains, nauseau, sweats, no energy, no enthusiasm, mood swings, miserable and depressed. After a few days of this, it gets better and beter literally every hour. of course, I am speaking about my experiences. Other people have other experiences with withdrawl and the symptoms and conditions vary greatly depending on drug, amount, length of time used and personal health.

    Being a husband who kept this little secret from my wife for the entire time that I was using them, I would say just talk to him about why he is doing it. I would also bring him to this board and just have him read some of the stories about what Oxys do to you and how addicitive they are and how bad getting off of them can be.

    I know what it is like. I knew I had a problem but I would get them anyway cause I was addicted. I would say, "I have to quit doing these,...... just not today."

    10 days clean and I feel like a new man.

    Just talk with your husband. Honesty and openess. Express your love for him and your extreme concern for his health. That combination will surely open his eyes to your concerns.

    Phil

     
    Old 01-12-2005, 11:16 AM   #7
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    If he's a-chewin', he's abusin'. Best to find him some help pronto. Another good candidate for rehab.

     
    Old 01-12-2005, 07:03 PM   #8
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    Thanks for the info & advice. My husband & I are not living together right now...sadly after 7 months of marriage full of emotional/mental abuse, I've been staying with my mom. When his friend told me recently what he's been doing with these pills, a lot of things started to come together in my mind. The volatile mood swings, threats of suicide, financial irresponsbility...so it is hard to approach him due to these things, but I will make an effort to do so in a nonconfrontational manner. Thanks for the help.

     
    Old 01-12-2005, 07:12 PM   #9
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    Yes, he is referring to the 'high' when he says it makes everything all better. He is having serious financial problems and has more or less lost his business. I am now putting the pieces together. These problems as well as ours could very well be due to the oxycontin abuse. On top of this, our psychologist who we saw for marriage counseling feels he also has borderline personality disorder. One problem on top of the other. I've expressed concern about the chewing. He brushes me off & says he's only taking small pieces of the pill.

     
    Old 01-12-2005, 09:03 PM   #10
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    Scared Wife-
    This is my first visit to a board like this. It is only because I myself am a recovering addict (21 months clean!) that I am going to tell you what you may or may not want to hear. You see, I am the "perfect" middle-class, stay at home mom who also took up a horrible habit that led to chewing oxycontin. Your question is easily answered-anyone who sits on the couch and "munches" on an oxycontin like candy or any other yummy snack is absolutely on his way to a problem. There is no other reason that a person chews oxy other than to get it into the system faster and enjoy the feeling of it. That was the easy answer for you...the hard answer is that this problem is not up to you to solve. Your husband is the ONLY person who can make him better. My guess would be that if he is chewing 80s of oxy that he KNOWS he has a problem and to fix it is too overwhelming. Supportively let him know that he has to find the courage to let someone help him. He absolutely shouldn't detox alone, take it from one who knows, medical attention is a must! The truth is however, that, an addict will not look for any way out from under their problem until they are good and ready. Support, comfort and a sense of understanding is all you can offer to him right now-some gentle pushing towards rehab is also in order, but tread softly-oxy is incredibly powerful and will speak louder to you than his REAL voice will. Best wishes to you and him. I hope I've helped.

     
    Old 01-13-2005, 07:15 PM   #11
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    Hello Everyone,

    I am so deeply touched by all of your advice and the way you have shared your experiences. Each & every reply is so deeply appreciated. I have learned so much from you and have a deep admiration for each of you. You'll never know how much it means to me - visiting this site makes me feel like I can relate my experiences to people who not only care, but have been there & understand. I hope all of you realize that I am cheering you on each day.

    Yes, it all does start piecing together for me now. My husband has had his own construction company since before we met & seemed moderately successful. Just prior to our marriage, I fell for a story and paid for his suit, the airline tickets & rental car. His parents gifted us with $1,000 in travelers checks for hotels, meals & entertainment. I also paid for the dinner, cake, flowers, minister & photographer. We came home & his mood swings began within a week and progressively got worse. He'd become so absorbed in computer games & hobbies that I felt as tho I lived alone - yet if I left to visit family or a girlfriend, he resented it & let me know it. For 5 of 7 months, I paid the rent/utilities singlehandedly. There was always a 'drama' about his lack of money. It made no sense to me as he has worked some during the winter & steadily since April - even completed & was paid for a $9,000 job but has yet to pay his supplier $3400 from that job. Emotional & mental abuse worsened with the mood swings. In May he asked me to leave because of jealousy towards my family, friends & pet. I left reluctantly but asked him to consider counseling with me. He agreed & our marriage counselor referred us to a psychologist after our 3rd visit...my husband of course had a problem with her anyway ('she's a ditz'). We saw the psychologist & my husband soon labeled him a 'fraud' & quit going (I still go monthly). He now lives rent-free in a relative's house, has been working & is still unable to pay bills.

    The price of these pills truly enlightens me more now & explains why his relatives have been making his truck payments for several months...& here I'd been paying the rent/utilities. I couldn't understand his financial problems...until now. Relationships with customers and vendors have also erroded during this time. Of course, the problem is always "them" - which we all know just cannot truly be the case after about 20 occurrences.

    I would love to introduce him to this site in a non-confrontation way, yet fear that he would definitely recognize my letters and would not react positively at all. He would accuse me of betraying him, etc. I will really mull that idea over. Sometimes I feel like I've got nothing more left to lose & might as well go for it. Some of you say he must know he's got a problem & may even recognize the root cause of his business, finances & marriage crumbling (so far all blame has been placed on me). I so hope you're right. He does seem to be hitting rock bottom yet doesn't care yet. How much further does a person have to sink before they seek help for themselves? Just curious.

    Well, sorry to ramble so much. Just wanted to give a bit more of the picture in case if any of you recognize other things. To add to my sorrow, our psychologist feels my husband likely has borderline personality disorder. I don't know if this is in addition to the addiction or just a mirror of the disorder due to the addiction. Sooooo confusing for me.

    Thank you again tho for all the advice and sharing. The first thing I do when I get to my office is check this site to learn more & offer words of encouragement to others.

    Sincerely,
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    Old 01-13-2005, 09:10 PM   #12
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    My heart truly goes out to you because I have been through so much of what you are going through with my husband and I know how much it hurts and how emotionally exhausting it is. My husband, too, owned his own business, yet we were constantly broke. He had his own carpet business and his addiction to vicodin/oxy and eventually to heroin got so bad that in the end he was actually stealing from his customers - he would get money for a job upfront - to get the supplies that he needed and than he wouldn't even get around to finishing the job because half the time he was either too busy trying to find more drugs or he was sick because he didn't have them. So, even though you think that he may have hit his bottom - it can always get worse. My husband did not stop until he was forced to stop when he was arrested. He is in prison now - he's been there for four years and as far as I know he is clean there. Of course, once you lose trust in someone it is always in the back of your mind whether they are telling the truth or not and I don't see him - so, I don't really know for sure.

    It has been really hard raising my children on my own - but I can tell you this much - it is not as hard as it was living with his addiction and not knowing what he was going to do from one day to the next. I can remember seriously thinking that one day I would come home and find him dead from an overdose. . . the stress of living with someone who is using like that is usually more than anyone can bear. So, even though I'm sure you are hurting it is probably best that you two are living apart right now until he decides to come to terms with his addiction and he is the only one who can do that. No matter what you do or how much you love him - he will not quit until he is ready to quit. It took me so long to realize that even though I'm an addict myself. . . sometimes love makes you think things that just are not rationale. I really don't know if I will stay with him or if we will be together when he gets out of prison . . .I still have a lot of time to think about it and for now I am concentrating on my recovery, my children, and my career.

    I wish I had some wonderful advice for you because I just hate to see anyone going through what you're going through. One thing you should remember though - You said something about him not admitting his problem and that everything is your fault.... an addict always trys to put the blame on someone else because they have to blame someone else to make themselves look better. Unfortunately, they often tend to lash out at the people who they love the most for some reason. I guess it really is true that we hurt the ones we love the most - I know I did when I was using. Maybe it's because deep down we know they are right and we just don't want to admit it when we are in active addiction. Well, in any case, I am rambling - I'm sorry. I just wanted you to know that I am thinking about you and really hoping that things get better for you. Take care of yourself...the rest will work itself out one way or the other.
    Luv Sue

     
    Old 01-14-2005, 06:40 PM   #13
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    To scared wife, if you can you should try to get your husband to look at this site My girlfriend convinced me to look at this site and it feels great to know Im not alone in my struggles.

     
    Old 01-16-2005, 09:03 AM   #14
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    Hello All,

    I will try to get my husband to take a look at this site. All of you have been such an enormous help to me in these past couple of weeks. I feel he's been flaunting this pill chewing in front of me for a reason. So I'll continue to express my concerns and tell him how informative this site is. He is not looking for a job that I can tell - just spends his days & evenings on his hobby. The other night he commented, "We ran the business into the ground." Boy, let me tell you - that 'we' irked me to no end. I've never had a say in any aspect of his business as to who gets hired & how much employees are paid nor have I ever even had access to his bank account. I don't even know if he's filed his taxes - have never met his accountant or seen copies of paperwork. Sue...your story sounds so much like a replica of mine. Unexplained money problems, etc. You're an inspiration to me in that you survived & have been focusing on yourself & your family. I hope I can muster up the strength to continue doing the same. It's so hard watching someone you love destroy themselves and knowing there is nothing you can do. I wish I could feel comfortable seeking some sort of help from his parents. They are financially comfortable and could easily afford any part of the rehab not covered by insurance (I know my husband will say he can't afford something of that nature). Yet I'm sure I'm the 'bad guy' in their eyes after the lies I'm certain my husband has told them. Maybe I should at least make them aware of the situation as I know it. That's another hard one to decide. In the meantime, they only continue to enable my husband with the financial support, etc., undoubtedly because he's making them feel sorry for him. So please cross your fingers for me when I try to navigate him to this web site. It's so great to have him home and to be spending time with him. I'm hoping he'll be reasonable and open-minded when I approach him with all this. Take care all - and thank you again for being there for me to lean on.

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    Old 01-16-2005, 04:19 PM   #15
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    SW, If his parents haven't faced the realization of what is going on with their son it could be because they choose not to. And I don't mean for that to sound hateful but you cannot raise a child into adulthood and not KNOW things about them. Especially on the level that he is operating on.........businesses just don't go down the crapper for no reason, and I'm sure he feeds them full of poor pitiful me B/S. Hey, I'm the queen of B/S, it goes with the addiction.
    My heart goes out to you I see myself in your posts except roles are reversed........sorry guess it just irritates me.
    Marilyn

     
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