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    Old 10-22-2009, 12:23 PM   #1
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    Do any of you take something for sleep?

    I just wanted to see what has been tried to help us get a GOOD nights sleep.......can't remember when my last one was.

     
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    Old 10-22-2009, 01:26 PM   #2
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Hi Monkeytoes - I take something called Nytol - it's an over the counter herbal product containing hops, valerian and Passion Flower. I also take a magnesium supplement in the evening. I usually get between 6 to 8 hours sleep and it has made a huge difference - I feel that my muscles are now getting some chance to repair themselves. Not sure if it's available in the states?

     
    Old 10-22-2009, 01:32 PM   #3
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Have you had sleep studies done? I know I used to be able to fall asleep at the drop of a hat, but that went by the wayside when all my symptoms started showing up. I went through all the sleep meds: Ambien, Lunesta (horrible bad taste that lingers), Klonopin at bedtime. I would sleep but I would not rest! I finally had a sleep study by a Neurologist Sleep Specialist that showed I was waking myself every 3 minutes all night long. Since being diagnosed and treated with a CPAP for Sleep Apnea, my sleep is better and I do feel more refreshed upon waking. You may want to check it out! Sleep disturbances are commonly present with FMS.

     
    Old 10-22-2009, 02:11 PM   #4
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    HI Monkey....I take Ativan 1 mg and flexeril each night for sleep and manage to get around 8 hours without the morning drowsiness. I've been taking the same thing for ten years and to my surprise I have not had to change meds or increase the dosage. Have you tried any sleep meds yet?

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    Old 10-22-2009, 04:28 PM   #5
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    I mix it up with Tylenol Pm, Ambian, or darvocet, depending on how I'm feeling. Generally, I sleep pretty well with one of them. However, once in a while, no matter what I take, I don't sleep and then sometimes I can sleep without taking anything.... It just depends on how I feel at night when I get ready for bed.

     
    Old 10-22-2009, 05:23 PM   #6
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    I take ambian but wake up after about six hours of sleep but six hours is better than just a few.

     
    Old 10-22-2009, 05:40 PM   #7
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Gravol works gr8

     
    Old 10-22-2009, 06:30 PM   #8
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Lunesta for me...for me it doesn't cause that morning "hangover" like Ambien did. I get about 7 hours.

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    Old 10-22-2009, 06:57 PM   #9
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Good advice about the sleep study. I too had one because my throat would close up at night. It was GERD. However, I woke up 60 times in 5 hours and stayed in stage 2 sleep. Diagnosis: was indicative of fibromyalgia. Because of that, I have never had any doctor give me a bad time about the existance of fibromyalga. I had a dr say it was the fad disease. When I showed my report to one of my doctors, he may a comment that I was one who REALLY had fibromyalgia.
    Anyway, I took Pamiliar for 10 years. It didn't work after menopause. I don't sleep well anymore because of the night sweats and body cramping. Once in awhile I will take an ativan. Now that I am retired, I nap during the day.

     
    Old 10-22-2009, 10:52 PM   #10
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    I take Trazodone and have for a few years now. It works well for me.

     
    Old 10-23-2009, 02:46 AM   #11
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Flexeril used to work but no more. I have some Valeria somewhere....never thought about it though....will try tonight.
    I'd LOVE to do a sleep study to see what it says. How does it point right to Fibro????

     
    Old 10-23-2009, 06:13 AM   #12
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Monkey Toes, In the list of common symptoms for FMS, sleep disturbances is included. It is not totally diagnostic of FMS but when you look at the big picture, it has to be included. The research shows that a large percentage of those with FMS have sleep disturbances. Some may have underlying causes that can be assisted with meds or pulmonary apparatuses like CPAP. I know several FMS'ers who were diagnosed with sleep apnea, now whether the FMS is the cause of the sleep disturbance or vice versa is like the chicken and the egg question. I just know that when I was first diagnosed and has commonly been reported here, that the first line of treatment is to get good refreshing sleep as a lack of it can make one's FMS more prominent.

    If one has a change in their sleep habits, one should be checked; or if one drags in the morning after sleeping but feels like you did not sleep at all, then you probably have some sleep issue that needs to be addressed.. A lot of people are tried on Antidepressants to try to enhance a person's overall well-being. I know that I had been told that I was "holding my breath" when I slept or had shallow breathing but I never thought I had a problem until all my other symptoms started cropping up.

    I do know that at night, during sleep is when the body repairs itself. Most people think that the body is in some state of suspension during sleep. Nothing could be further from the truth. Body systems work harder at night than during inactive periods during the day. Now think of it this way, why would bedrest be necessary right after any illness/operation? What is the first thing one is told to do during that period? Take it easy, get plenty of rest.

    Sleep Apnea can become quite serious if left untreated, especially if there is some accompanying health issues, succh as cardiac disorders. I cannot stress the importance of investigating any sleep disturbance. Some people operate quite well on 3-4 hours sleep a nite and if that is the norm for that person that is fine. But when one sees a change from being able to sleep an 8 hour stretch and no other complaints and all of a sudden is barely getting a few hours and not feeling refreshed, then it needs to be investigated further.

    Also, as I stated I went through a number of sleep aids before I finally was tested. If you have taken sleep aids and you still do not feel like you have rested, you probably need to investigate the sleep issue more thoroughly. I will say that there are different kinds of sleep studies. Some use more leads than others and are more thorough. I know that I had a second more thorough study before I received my daignosis. The first only showed Restless Leg Syndrome. I am glad that I investigated my sleep issue more thoroughly, as I now get some 5-6 hours generally, but more important, I feel like I slept 5-6 hours.

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    Old 10-23-2009, 11:16 PM   #13
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Many Fibro sufferers have a disruption to their circadian rhythm. Mine is Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome -DSPS (disorder of sleep timing. People with DSPS tend to fall asleep at very late times and have difficulty waking up in time for work, school, or social engagements.) 25-50 mg Melatonin has heped more than any other natural or synthetic med I have ever tried.

    Even with a low Sleep Apnea problem, I finally feel rested when I awake. We think it may be that the melatonin is enabling a deeper sleep as well as a faster fall.

    I like the fact that it is so natural, something my body is obviously lacking.

     
    Old 10-24-2009, 07:52 AM   #14
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    took the valeria last night....got an hours sleep. hubs picking up some tylenol pm on his way home this morning.

    is the melatonin still a liquid form?

     
    Old 10-24-2009, 02:36 PM   #15
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    Re: Do any of you take something for sleep?

    Hi monkeytoes, had a real nice reply for you, but my one yr. old grandson woke up from his nap (babysitting today), I thought I saved it but when my son came to pick him up he fixed my laptop to interface with my wireless printer and some where along the line my reply disappeared.

    Let me see if I can recap. I do take ambien to sleep, seems like about 10yrs now. I started taking it only when I thought I needed it, didn't want to get dependent. As my doc put it though, if I had diabetes I would take insulin everyday to have a better quality of life. I knew his argument, I had it with myself many times. Anyway I did start taking ambien everynight and eventually went to 10mgs. Now that it is in generic form, you need to make sure which mfg. you like the best. I use to get the little square purple pills, and then the pharmacy had to give me the little white ovals one time. Oh my they work so much better for me. My DIL however can't take those and needs the little purple ones. My daughter uses melatonin and it works very well for her, better than a sleep pill. I also take 2000mg calcium at night, that is suppose to help with sleep, but I do it because I take my thyroid meds in the morning and you should not take them together.

    I had a sleep study done and it was sort of lame, it was done at a local hospital and the tech told me everyone has sleep apnea and what they are testing for is to see how much a CPAP machine can help you. I have a very difficult time falling asleep and don't sleep longer than two hours (without meds) and then wake up several times an hour. I didn't fall asleep at my test so their recommendation was to take a sleeping pill......hello, I already do.......it was just not great. Anyway I think it would have been better to go to one of the University sleep study centers where they might look for other things. Sleep is very important for me to help fight the fibro, and I do well with the ambien a CPAP would not help me at all. Just something to think about if you decide to get a sleep study done, look for a good place to do it.

    Good Luck with this, I can't make it without a good nigts sleep. I have so much more pain, it is quite amazing.

    Glojer

     
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