03-17-2009, 11:28 AM
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#151 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wrightwood, CA
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Ooops I meant subtalar joint space rather than talus (where'd I get that?)
Thanks so much,
Linda
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03-17-2009, 03:43 PM
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#152 | Junior Member (male)
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Boca Raton, FL, USA
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hi everyone,
I have not posted in a while so I hope nobody has suffered any serious setbacks. I am pretty much done with PT. The results have been diminishing since visit 6 or 7. Judging by what my good foot can do, I believe my ROM is close to 75% of normal. I have no idea about inversion ROM though. I am having two significant sensations in bad foot. First, I feel as if I have an extra toe. What I mean by this is that I feel as if my toes are climbing on each other. I know that sounds weird. Secondly, I feel a disconnect between my heel and rest of foot. I remember one of the operating room physicians showing me the CT scan they used during surgery. He showed me a fracture line that looked as if my heel was actually disconnected from foot. My fall ended up with forefoot landing about 2 inches below where my heel landed. OUCH! Has anyone else felt either of these two sensations?
Mike
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03-18-2009, 03:41 AM
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#153 | Veteran (male)
Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NJ
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hi Mike,
WOw....Interesting stuff happening to you. Hmmmmmm PT is to help get ROM back and teach you exercises to strengthen and stretch the necessary muscles. The rest is up to you...I went to PT for 8 weeks, yet continued my PT sessions here at home and still saw gains, but like you said, slow gains....
It takes a while...it really does. Of course it also takes time, so it's important to schedule that time daily for you to continue your own PT.
AS for the extra toe? Interesting. I never felt that but I do feel at times my toes won't be straight like my other foot. In other words, my little toes sometimes gravitate towards my big toe when I stand or walk. I will be walking, heel roll on the outside of the foot, then off the side of my little toes. I then have to concentrate on heel onto the toes and push off straight. I believe my muscles are still trying to find some sort of normalcy.
Your nerves are still trying get back to normal too. They don't like to be moved or touched and when they do it takes a long time for them to go back to their normal state. I suspect there is probably some interior swelling inside your foot too....maybe some scar tissue putting pressure on that nerve. The peroneal nerve is the size of a straw and then there are many smaller ones that branch off too. Nerves are a funny item in the human body.
I just went back to the foot/bone pictures from the web. That is a huge displacement of the heel and forefoot when you fell....I am trying to imagine the force when you hit to have the heel stop and the forefoot to continue downward. Ouch....If that is the case, you did some serious stretching of the front ligaments and tendons.
Take a look at your Private Messages. I sent you a link to and short web session. Not much info but it might help you.
Ed
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03-18-2009, 09:47 AM
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#154 | Junior Member (female)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11 Quote:
Originally Posted by jliversidge Hi Everyone
RCN 1976 -I think these consultants deliberately try to set us unrealistic goals and then we feel really bad when we can't achieve them!!On Jan 6th my consultant just said "Right you can fully weight bear now,get rid of the crutches" Not so Easy. I was on cloud nine after the consultation thinking "Great,won't be long now" HA HA ,then thought I must be a right weed when I found it impossible.
My Physio said allow 6-8 weeks to build the ankle and foot up, and I have been walking independantly now for about 2 weeks so that was about right for me,and its been a slow, painful but a positive slog,Sorry!!
Hope it happens faster for you,those tube stations are a bugger though!!!You would be very brave to tackle those on crutches!!
Are you fed up of watching Jeremy Kyle on Telly yet!!!!!
Jayne | Hi Jayne,
Yes, have been tempted to throw something at the telly everytime Jeremy Kyle comes on but I've resisted haha! I had my first physio last saturday but it was more of an assesment to see what I'd done and what my movement was like. The physio recommened a session in the hydro pool so i can walk without any weight so I'll see how that goes.
Funny thing is that the actual sole of my foot underneath the right side of the heel has been really aching the last few days. Don't know whether I'm putting too much weight on it too early? Also, just above where my surgery scar bends upwards there feels like there's quite a bit of fluid underneath the skin and the skin there is red and painful. That side of my foot is still cery swollen so not sure how I'm going to get a shoe/trainer on when i do go back to work
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03-18-2009, 02:08 PM
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#155 | Junior Member (male)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ottawa ON canada
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
21-DEC-08 - shattered left clacaneus.
02-JAN-09 - ORIF surgery, plate + 9 screws. 12 wks NWB
27-MAR-09 - Target date for WB
Hi all,
enjoy the thread and hoping the best for everyone here! I am 40, and this is my first injury of any kind. I hope to be cleared for WB next Friday but am a little concerned about what to expect. My heel feels fine but the outside of my ankle still is tender. Doing the PT twice a week plus home regimen of NWB exercises.
I was just wondering what to expect for exercises when I go WB. What ones are most effective?
Also, what do people find the best excercise for improving inversion?
Keep heeling and stay positive!
Gord
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03-18-2009, 03:31 PM
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#156 | Veteran (male)
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Hi Gord,
No worries. Relax and let the PT help you with the WBing. You'll do fine. I remember my trepedation when I was where you are in recovery. I was afraid, nervous....all the above.
More than likely your tendons and ligaments will hurt first. It can and may be very painful, but that will subside as you work thru the process of WBing. Remember, if it hurts too bad, then simply stop...the PT is not there to see you in pain. That is not his/her job, so it will be up to you to say uncle, I've had enough.
The PT will give you plenty of exercises. Seated Calf raises, bicycle work, treadmill work for your gait. Once you get stronger and more stable, they add more exercises to the routine, until they feel you won't hurt yourself once you are released of their care.
Another good one is lying on your back, feet flat, knees bent. Raise your butt off the floor so your thighs are parallel with your chest and stomach. Hold for 5 - 10 seconds then relax. The idea is to use your good leg to raise yourself, the slowly transfer weight to the bad foot as tolerated. This is one way to get the bad foot used to the new weight.
The PT will run your thru and won't give you any really advanced exercises. Right now your foot is like a baby. It doesn't get up and crawl or walk right away, it takes time to build these muscles back up again.
Just remember, you are in charge....it is YOUR foot. Please keep us posted on your progress? As you get stronger I'll suggest other exercises too.
Ed
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03-19-2009, 02:58 PM
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#157 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11 Quote:
Originally Posted by joe41 Hey Heelies, Fracture 7/7, op 7/15, wb 9/12
Hey Movado, Really sorry to hear you are having so much pain. Have you talked to other Docs. about your problem? My Doc. told me it could take 1 to 2 years depending on the individual. From what I understand the fusion is a last resort thing, I hope you get the pain resolved before you have to get the fusion.
Pat, glad to hear you are getting over your back problem. Oh, I forgot, another remedy that works real well would drink a lot of Burbon.  
Hey Phil, good to hear from you.
Everyone, stay strong, positive and Keep Healing Heelies.
Joe | Hi Joe,
Thanks but bourbon not my tipple, afraid to drink because of pain meds. Back is better but still aches a lot, foot has been good but painful again this week, probably because unable to stretch or exercise because of back. It has now been 13 months and I was told 12 to 18 months.
Cheers
Pat
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03-19-2009, 03:08 PM
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#158 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK
Posts: 240
| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hi Ed,
I am back at work but back still aches a lot and foot painful at times but probably because no stretching exercises because of back. Mam is doing better than me, thanks for asking.
Keep healinh heelies
Pat
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03-19-2009, 03:35 PM
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#159 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hi Fitzcor,
I was NWB for 3 months then PWB for 6 weeks. I too used a walker as I was afraid of using crutches but I used a wheeled walker which is much easier to hop with and then used elbow crutches as soon as I was PWB and they were fine, went on to 1 crutch then cane, now no cane. The elbow crutches give much more support than under the arm type.
Good Luck
Pat
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03-19-2009, 06:50 PM
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#160 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wrightwood, CA
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Very tired of the swelling today ... needed to vent.
I am trying to get through the school year and I must admit some days it's very difficult.
Ok, enough. Will try positive thoughts, but adding a bottle of wine. Hope you all are well tonight and your feet feel familiar.
thanks,
linda
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03-19-2009, 07:37 PM
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#161 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: new york
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hey lovn
Add some elevation,then ice to the foot and wine  lol, am sure with all the walking you have to do at school is making the foot swell more but as soon as you can get the foot up. Also you may want you can try compression sock i know it has helped my husbands foot alot -he is on his feet all day and the socks have taken away alot of the swelling that would stay in the foot.
take care all 
mydd-terry
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03-19-2009, 07:52 PM
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#162 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wrightwood, CA
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
thank you so much... will try the socks and elevation again.  wine is helping.
linda
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03-19-2009, 07:54 PM
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#163 | Veteran (male)
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hi Linda,
If the wine is not helping, then you'll need something a little stronger. LOL
Ed
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03-20-2009, 08:16 AM
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#164 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wrightwood, CA
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
lol... it all helped. Thanks so much for your cheers! Cheers!
linda
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03-20-2009, 11:23 AM
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#165 | Senior Member (female)
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Wrightwood, CA
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| Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11
Hi Pat,
I was wondering... do you still walk with a limp? If not, when did that resolve? When did
you notice swelling was diminished?
thank you,
linda
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