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    Old 02-20-2009, 03:18 PM   #31
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    Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11

    hey, ed ,joe and alex

    update for the accupunture -he loves it -said it helps alot more then pt and i know i did see a big improvement after the first day he went and his ankle didnt lock anymore -and this is after going to pt for a few weeks.
    I do have a question for you guys -has your heel area gone down to the size it was before or do u see that it is larger(wider) then it was before the operation?

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    Hi Terry,

    I might have to try that too and see how it works for me.

    My heel was slightly wider up until 2 weeks ago. The achilles area swelled a little and so did the heel, but it's getting back to normal again but not the size it was preinjury.

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    Old 02-20-2009, 06:35 PM   #33
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    Well, the insurance finally came thru!! Then we found out the dr we had seen didn't take the ins the state gave us. So mad rush to find another dr. Thankfully we found a great one in Memphis (2 1/2 hrs away). She got us in on Fri morning and did surgery on Wed. morning. He came home Thurs. morning. It's been ok, but we just took out his pain pump (that thing was nice!) and it's hurting more. He's got perocet and I keep reminding him to stay ahead of the pain.
    I asked how many screws she put in, she just said "a bunch". They said his heel bone kinda mushroomed up and exploded into the subtular joint. The resident that helped her with the surgery was excited that he got to do something that "good" (he then said maybe it was bad, for us). So it sounds like he did a pretty thorough job breaking it. She was pretty confident about the joint being fixed. Hopefully he won't need a fusion later.
    We go back in 2 weeks to remove stitches and do whatever comes next. Dr. Ishikawa said it'll be a long road. She said anywhere from 6 months to 2 years to return to fairly normal, but it'll probably never be like it was before.
    I spent part of the afternoon filling out social security disability forms. Has anyone been approved for it? I've been a stay at home mom for 7 years, so he was the breadwinner. I've been looking for something, but not much luck (not that he can be home alone right now). So we'll cross our fingers on that one.
    It's nice to have someone to tell everything to that understands it. We've had a few people wonder what the big deal about a broken foot/ankle is, just put a cast on it and go on......If only

    Fitzcor, we are originally from Lebanon, IN. Now we're in TN. I hate to say this, since you slipped on the ice. I kinda miss having winter with snow (just the pretty white stuff that disappears after a few days would be good)

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    Old 02-20-2009, 08:43 PM   #34
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    Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11

    Hi Everyone: fracture 1/16; surgery 1/16

    Tina: I'm new to the list and not up to date on your case, but hope everything works out in your favor. Haven't been to Lebanon, but I believe we went by it going to Indianapolis. I probably would miss the snow if I ever moved away too, but right now after this horrible winter we've had all I can think about is spring. We had a snow storm Wednesday evening and Thursday morning and they are predicting another 4 to 8 inches tonight and tomorrow. It feels like it will never end!! Also, I know what you mean about people not realizing how serious this injury is. I've had a couple people call me up and asked me to do things. When I told them I'm still laid up, they said, "Oh I thought you were walking around by now." Or I get, "don't you have a walking cast on? Why can't you walk on it by now?" I guess it's hard to realize unless you've been there.

    My 29 year old son (who is living with us for a while), saw me reading this list the other day, and gave me a nickname when I'm going around the house in my wheelchair - he now calls me "heelie on wheelies". LOL.

    Hope everyone has a nice weekend.
    Fitzcor aka heelie on wheelies!

     
    Old 02-20-2009, 10:04 PM   #35
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    Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11

    Break 8/31 Surgery 9/9, WB as of 11/12

    Evening everyone

    Fitzcor(heelie on wheelies)
    Hope your recovery is going well. Yes, people don't realize what a serious injury a broken calcaneous is. They have no idea that all the weight we place on our foot basically centers around the heel and people don't understand what it takes to recover from it. That's why it's so good to come here and tell your story and get the support and understanding of people who have been through it or are going through it. Just know that it will get better and you'll be back to yourself soon enough. All the orthopedics are a little different, mine made me wait almost 10 weeks post op to go to weight bearing, the average around here seems to be about 8. Although once I started weight bearing I really improved quickly. Keep doing your ROM exercises and prepare yourself as much as possible for WB. It will make a big difference once you start WB


    Tina
    I'm happy that your insurance came through. That must be a huge relief for you. Request and operative report on your surgery. They must give it to you by law. It will tell you exactly what they did to your foot in full detail. Also, if you ask around in here you will find out no one more than I get more peeved at doctors who try to dictate to you how far and how well recovery will go. They always tell you less than you can expect to cover themselves as far as liability. From day one I told myself that I would fully recover regardless of what any doctor said and so far I feel like I'm almost there already. The only one who will determine how far he recovers is him. Expect to fully recover and re-hab as if you will. We've had unbelievable cases of professional athletes being told they were done in their sport due to an injury only to fully recover and return to action. Stay positive for him and keep reassuring him he will get back to normal!

    Terry
    My heel is now back to it's original size. A little swelling now and then but for the most part back to normal. It's great to hear about the results David is getting from acupuncture. Sounds like something we all wish we could have done during recovery. Keep us posted if it keeps working well.

    Joe
    Stephen King eh? Well if that's true I'd say you have a demented mind! That guy writes some strange stuff!! Hope all is going well for you!

    Ed
    Hope that calf comes back quick. I can't blame you for being too aggressive, I've been the same way all the way through recovery and probably had a few small setbacks because of it. That's why we are who we are though!

    Everyone have a great weekend!

    Alex

     
    Old 02-21-2009, 05:27 AM   #36
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    Hi Tina,

    Good news. I'm glad the surgery went well and he is now on the other side of recovery. You did ask for anti-biotics post surgery? Pill form not IV form. Another 10 days won't hurt. Keep telling him to stay ahead of the pain...pills like clockwork....I remember I had it down to science and wrote everything down as I did it so I remembered what I took and when.

    Alex is right, don't take vague answers from the doctor. ASk for specifics so you know what YOU are dealing with and then can ask intelligent questions or do your own research. Docs who tell share minimal information is just BS....It's your foot not theirs.

    I asked for printed copies of the xrays so I could look and see what I was dealing with.

    It's still important to elevate tho. It may be uncomfortable, but necessary.

    We're all glad he's made it thru this phase.

    Stay positive and focused.
    Ed

     
    Old 02-21-2009, 11:12 AM   #37
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    Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11

    Hey Heelies, Fracture 7/7, op 7/15, wb 9/12

    Hey Terry, glad the accupuncture is working for him. My heel size is about the same it's my ankle that seems wider on the out side.

    Tina, am I glad you got the insurance worked out and found a good Doc. Now the fun starts, i.e. wanting to WB, PT and walking normal . But now is when patience and perserverance come into play. This recovery can't be rushed, his foot will tell him what and how much he can do. He will get there.

    Hey Alex, I was going for jocular but I think I got the jugular.

    Ed, I'll let you know how the gym works out, I have been off my routine for 6months plus so taking it easy the first few weeks is the plan.

    Everyone, stay strong, positive and of course

    Keep Healing Heelies

    Joe

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    Old 02-22-2009, 05:45 AM   #38
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    Hi everyone,
    havent posted a message for a few weeks ,but am very pleased to say that I have been making good progress,and am feeling much more optimistic about how the foot is getting better.

    I have been building up the weight bearing now for 6 weeks and I really feel as though I am at last getting somewhere,Halleluyah!!!!!!!!
    The progress really has to be measured on a week to week basis,and not daily ,which is what I think I was hoping for!!!Foot still swelling,stiff and tender in places but very livable ? with.
    We have just been to Ireland for a weeks holiday to take my Irish Mum- in -Law home to see her family and I have walked loads on two crutches and it has really built up my ankle and foot strength,And I have taken a few steps completely on my own today!!
    Felt fantastic!!
    Have also been swimming whilst on hol and although it felt strange I could feel it doing my foot some good,
    I really feel for the new people on the site ,This injury has really been a test of patience ,But it really does get better!!even though you think it never will!!
    I fell on October 4th 2008 so it has been 4 months now but am now looking forward to maybe getting some hill walking in this summer in the Yorkshire Dales,Yippee!!!

     
    Old 02-23-2009, 08:44 AM   #39
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    Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11

    Hi there,

    I am new to this board and would like to introduce you to my injury and experience so far.

    I fell through a roof at a height of aprrox 7ft on 01/28/09. I was rushed to hosp because of the fall and the pain and swelling to my left foot. The xray showed that I had fractured my left calcaneous. They stated it had been shattered in about 20/30 pieces. I was put in a cast and told that the ortho surgeon would operate on me the next day. The next morning the surgeon saw the xrays and realized that the injury was beyond his scope. He then referred me to a specialist.

    This Dr. who is a specialist in this area gave me two options either to have an Op or to leave it as it was and let it heal itself with the heel in the wrong position. In the meantime the cast was removed and only a support cast was put on with a bandage which could be removed by myself. My foot was still swollen but I was told to ice and elevate.

    I decided to go for the op which entailed a plate and 6 pins being inserted and this was done on the 02/08/09. After the op no cast was put on my foot, just a dressing over the stitches along with elevation. I was told that I would have the stitches taken out after two weeks post op and then physio would start the following day with possible weight bearing. This seems very contradictary to what everyone else has mentioned in this forum.

    I am still getting shooting pains on the side that has been operated one and numbness around the two small toes and the heel along with the bottom side of the foot.

    I am having the stitches removed tomorrow and will let you know how it went.

    I wish everyone a speedy recoveries.

    Teji

     
    Old 02-23-2009, 09:49 AM   #40
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    Teji

    sorry to hear about your fall-after reading your story was wondering why the dr wanted to operate so quickly- from everyone who has experienced this,they usually wait untill swelling is down before they even think to opertate.My husband fell from a height of 10ft and shattered his calcaneous into little pieces also took a plate and 11 pins for him but when he was done he was put in a soft cast and the weight bearing right away doesnt sound right to me after stitches are out -i know they worked up to weight bearing with my husband and he had been on crutches.
    I would ask them any questions you have-I know you will hear from others on here also-Ed and Alex always say it is your foot,question the drs. on anything you feel isnt right_I learned that the hard way.
    If you havent already, look back at the past postings in fractured calcaneous 10,9 ,8 etc. you will see everyones experiances.
    My husband has also had the numbness and shooting pain after his operations is just feeling coming back into foot and does go away -do ice and elevate it as much as possible -and hope you are on crutches ?

    Mydd-terry

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    Old 02-23-2009, 11:26 AM   #41
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    Hi Mydd-terry

    Thanks for you response, I hope you husband is well?
    The Dr. operated about 10 days after the injury. The swelling had gone down a bit by then and he wasnt to concerned about the swelling. After the op, the swelling did improve. And now 2 weeks after the op, the skin is crimply and peeling off.
    I will question the Dr. with regards to WB so early. I will also confirm this with the PT as well.

    I am on crutches, but no boot, shoes or cast. I wear my normal socks just for comfort. No pain at night but still on painkillers.

    Reading your previous posts, your husband got an infection. How did this happen? and how can you prevent this from occurring?

    Regards

    Teji

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    Old 02-23-2009, 03:53 PM   #42
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    Re: Fractured Calcaneous 11

    Hey Heelies, Fracture 7/7, op 7/15, wb 9/12

    Hey Teji, you guys in the UK must be very tough. Most of us in the Colonies went eight to ten weeks before trying WB. By all means questions your Docs. and voice your concerns. I agree with Terry on this and also advising you to read all the posts starting from #1. In the mean time elevate and ice to control the swelling.

    Hey Jliversidge, glad to hear you are making progress.

    Stay strong, positive and of course Keep Healing Heelies

    Joe

     
    Old 02-23-2009, 03:56 PM   #43
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    Hi Teji

    Well iam very glad you are not in any pain -that is a good sign and that swelling is down.
    My husband contracted the infection because his (first) dr. did not believe in preventive antibiotic no matter how much i asked for it- also found out that he should have had a drain put in the wound to help keep fluids away from it and that dr didnt do that either and when he took the soft cast off davids (my hub) foot looked like a white sponge -like if you left your hands in water for too long -i ended up taking him to a wound care center who confirmed the infection.We now have a great new dr who is very careful and imformative,Also david had to have the plate and screws taken out because of the infection.
    thankfully he is doing great now.I maybe wrong but this is the first i have heard have not having a soft cast on after this kind of operation but maybe the drs treat it differently here.
    As soon as the others on here read your post iam sure you will get more info as to there experiences.

    take care
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    Old 02-23-2009, 05:34 PM   #44
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    Hi Teji,

    I'm sorry to meet you this way, but we'll all hep you thru this to get yourself better and under the process while doing so.

    As Terry and Joe stated, try to go back (in your spare time) and read all the previous Calcaneal Threads. You will learn a tremendous amount.

    I had a similar fall and break, but from a ladder. July 19, 10 feet, right heel 6-7 pieces. Consult July 21....The doc told me the same thing...I don't do these. 2nd opinion July 23, gave me the option of surgery or not. Gave me the risks and rewards with both. Surgery performed July 31....AFTER the swelling went down.

    1 Plate, 11 screws. Cast, for 2 weeks, stitches removed, then another cast for 2 weeks then a walking boot. WBing 7 weeks post op.

    I have to agree with the others on this...bones heal but not in 2 weeks. The doc is doing you a disservice by telling you to WB after 2 weeks. Not a good idea in my opinion. I would seriously question his judgement and ask more questions.

    You are in the UK I see. Medicine practiced differently there than here. I am conversing with a girl who broke her metatarsal and the doc is telling her to walk on it it 4 weeks after the break...She is in a lot of pain right now and may have broken it again. She is going to get more Xrays soon...

    Please....do not walk on it until he takes xrays and confirms calcification and healing. You will break it again and be right back here again. Surgery all for naught.

    Interesting that he did not cast your foot and allows you to sleep that way. I had to wear my boot for 2-3 weeks while I slept....Added insurance to make sure it heals and you don't get up in the middle of the night and step on it, forgetting it's broken. This guy doesn't add up in my eyes....of course I'm not a Doc but have read, shared and been shared to enough to know what it right, normal and what is wrong. I think everyone here will agree with me.

    The shooting pains are normal and will subside over time. This kept me awake many a nite. The doc had to move the peroneal nerve to perform the surgery. The size of a drinking straw. Nerves don't like to be handled, but it sure beats having it cut like TChair (another heelie) did several years ago. Tingling in the foot will occur and is also normal...toes, heel, skin etc....all normal.

    You will also enter a depressed state....as you feel this remember, there is a light at the end of the tunnel but the train has slowed way down almost to a crawl....keep focused and stay busy, mentally and emotionally. Remember, we made it thru the tunnel, you will too....

    Please don't hesitate to ask anyone anything here. We've all been thru this and have our own experience to help you deal with this.

    JSilverslidge - great news...you've made some really good progress and thank you for sharing it with us. You'll be almost normal again in no time. Just think where you were 4 weeks ago? Now look....

    Joe...you really crack me up. I love your sense of humor. Suttle and dry like mine....

    Hope everyone else is doing well. Tina, Alex, Carole, Pat, Phil, Sandra & Fitzcor. Stay positive and focused.

    As for infection....anything that was present and should not have been will manifest itself and there is nothing you can do. There are 2 things that could have been done, anti-biotics during surgery and anti-biotics for 10 days after surgery. If the doc didn't do this, you missed the preventative boat on this one...but I would ask him during you or next appt if he did.

    Skin lotion will help keep the skin moist and help stop the peeling and flaking. Please keep the incision covered at all times and try not to wet it until the incision is completely healed. Neosporin will help if there are any parts of the incision still open. But keep it covered and you are doing your part.

    If an infection does occur, it can present itself up to a year after surgery but will typically happen within the 1st 8-12 weeks. If you monitor your temperature daily it'll be slightly lower due the bone healing process, but if it climbs, spikes etc....then be worried....

    A helpful idea for sleep....you will not be tiring yourself out physically due to non WBing and not doing many activities. You may be awake for hours...7 am until 2-3 am getting 3-4 hours a nite. I used Tylenol PM and a muscle relaxent to help me. Once I became more mobile I started lifting weights again to tire myself out.

    I became more active and wandered around more.

    Again, welcome to our community. We're sad you here but damn glad to meet you.
    Ed

     
    Old 02-24-2009, 02:21 AM   #45
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    Hi Teji,
    I live in Rotherham,South yorkshire and shattered my heel and lower fibula after a fall down stairs last October.From reading different peoples treatments on this site there does seem to be a different approach inthe UK from treatment in USA.I did not need surgery cos my consultant said I had been lucky and not damaged the joint,
    I was discharged from Hospital with no pot on ,or any protection at all ,(much to everyones surprise)as the Doc said priority was to get swelling down with ice packs,But my instructions were absolutely NO weight bearing for 6 weeks and then only partial weight bearing on the very front of my foot for another 4 weeks.So it was crutches ,and a wheelchair for outside.
    The consultant I've seen in Rotherham is a Foot and ankle specialist(just luck on my part I think) and he has worked with the Commonwealth Gymnastic Team so I trust he knows what he is doing!!!!
    If you are worried just ask your Doctor to explain why his approach seems so different from everyone elses,Maybe he knows someting all the other Docs don,t !!!!!
    Good Luck,
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