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    Old 07-03-2007, 10:14 AM   #1
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    As you can read by my previous threads, I have been ill for a long time. I have gotten several wonderful responses to my posts but so far, nothing is helping the nausea and diarrhea since the gallbladder surgery done 17 days ago. I am getting so weak from being unable to eat without the diarrhea. I see my surgeon on Friday.

    I tried chewing on raw gingeroot but that did not help. I've tried anti-sickness meds, (phenegren), and anti-diarrhea meds too. And I still have pains where my gallbladder used to be.

    I don't have a fever, just nausea. I am not eating fat, drinking alcohol, and I am staying away from dairy.

    Yesterday a friend picked me up to go to her house and I became so nausous I almost got a panic attack, and extreme diarrhea while at her house and she had to bring me home.

    I've been sick and unable to eat or work since the beginning of March of this year. What do I need to do to feel better? Thank you for any suggestions.

     
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    Old 07-03-2007, 10:47 AM   #2
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    Re: Nausea, Diarrhea, Depression after Gallbladder Surgery

    I'm sorry I don't have any advice for you but I just wanted to say that I hope you start feeling better soon. I also hope your dr can give you some ideas.

    I was told by several people about problems iwth diarrhea after the surgery. My neighbor said it effected her for almost a year. I was terrified, however I have been lucky enough to only get it once in awhile.

    Hang in there.

     
    Old 07-03-2007, 11:26 AM   #3
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    Thanks for your message. I read where a lot of people go through the diarrhea thing but the depression is wearing me down. I was so healthy before I got sick last March. Now I am so weak from not being able to eat that I can hardly walk up the 10 steps from my room in the basement to the kitchen upstairs. I was actually doing fairly good the first few days home. Anyway, thanks again.

    When did you have GB surgery? Did you have much of an appetite afterwards? sophie

     
    Old 07-03-2007, 11:56 AM   #4
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    Sophie,

    I feel for you. If you have read my many previous posts you will see that I have had a horrible time post op with nausea. My dr first tried compazine and besides making me extremely tired it didn't work. He then put me on Zofran and that helped a lot with the nausea. I have also been on Reglan (even before my surgery) because he believed my stomach wasn't emptying fast enough and that is also suppose to help with the nausea. I've been luck only in that I haven't had too much trouble with diarrhea although I have had it once in awhile. The meds helped but I still felt very bad. Then I started to (and still sometimes have) depression. Was it the meds? I've read that Reglan can do that. Was it just that I felt so bad for so long? Hard to tell. I was getting very depressed, so bad that I thought I may need some kind of antidepressants even though I dreaded going on even more medication. At exactly 3 weeks I started to feel slightly better, only occasional nausea. Now I am at 5 weeks and although I feel nowhere near normal I am starting to feel even a little better still. I think I am getting better but it is BABY steps for me. My surgeon just yesterday thinks I should be better so he wants a gastric emptying test and took me off my Reglan. I was scared I might start feeling horrible but so far today I am okay. I hope I am turning the corner for good this time. Try to stay positive, I know how hard it can be. I got little support from my wife, family, and friends that were kind of acting like I was a wimp or something when they have no idea how hard it has been for me to try and function normally when all I wanted to do was lay in bed. See if your doctor can change your meds and ask him/her about Reglan and Zofran, they helped me. Hang in there. My doctor also said that after 6-8 weeks your body should be about how it is going to be. I think this more of week to week thing rather than day to day.

     
    Old 07-03-2007, 12:55 PM   #5
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    Sophie,

    Forgot to add that I also had right sided pain the first few weeks after surgery. Same type of pain I had before my surgery (more annoying than extremely painful). I was very afraid. For me the pain would come and go and if I changed position it would go away or not hurt as bad. My surgeon said because of that he thought it was muskoskeletal related or some nerve regeneration going on. He did later order an ultrasound to look for stones in the bile ducts but that was negative. I never did have any stones even before the surgery. And now I haven't had that pain in about a week and a half (knock on wood). I was originally diagnosed with biliary dyskenesia. the dr said it does take people longer to get relief from surgery with that than someone who had stones. If you did have gallstones you may need an ultrasound (probalby will get one anyway) or MRCP because you may still have a stone stuck in there. keep us posted. I think you are similar to me in that it is just going to take many more weeks for our bodies to adjust.

     
    Old 07-03-2007, 01:50 PM   #6
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    Sophie,

    I feel for you. If you have read my many previous posts you will see that I have had a horrible time post op with nausea. My dr first tried compazine and besides making me extremely tired it didn't work. He then put me on Zofran and that helped a lot with the nausea. I have also been on Reglan (even before my surgery) because he believed my stomach wasn't emptying fast enough and that is also suppose to help with the nausea. I've been luck only in that I haven't had too much trouble with diarrhea although I have had it once in awhile. The meds helped but I still felt very bad. Then I started to (and still sometimes have) depression. Was it the meds? I've read that Reglan can do that. Was it just that I felt so bad for so long? Hard to tell. I was getting very depressed, so bad that I thought I may need some kind of antidepressants even though I dreaded going on even more medication. At exactly 3 weeks I started to feel slightly better, only occasional nausea. Now I am at 5 weeks and although I feel nowhere near normal I am starting to feel even a little better still. I think I am getting better but it is BABY steps for me. My surgeon just yesterday thinks I should be better so he wants a gastric emptying test and took me off my Reglan. I was scared I might start feeling horrible but so far today I am okay. I hope I am turning the corner for good this time. Try to stay positive, I know how hard it can be. I got little support from my wife, family, and friends that were kind of acting like I was a wimp or something when they have no idea how hard it has been for me to try and function normally when all I wanted to do was lay in bed. See if your doctor can change your meds and ask him/her about Reglan and Zofran, they helped me. Hang in there. My doctor also said that after 6-8 weeks your body should be about how it is going to be. I think this more of week to week thing rather than day to day.
    It was such a relief to read your message. I thought it was just me who has had to go through this ordeal with feeling so down. Although I am staying with a friend who is a doctor, I also get very little support. He is 80 yrs. old and from the old school that the gallbladder should never have been taken out and that once it was, it should have cured everything. He is like a surrogate dad to me and I respect his opinions, but there is little I can talk to him about. But this was the best place for me to be for medical care, etc. I was living in a very rural area of South Dakota before Scotland, and I would not have been able to get to hospitals and there was not many choices for specialists.

    Before I got so ill I was living in Glasgow, Scotland. I was on top of the world working and being creative and then it all went down hill as soon as I got sick the beginning of March. I couldn't even catch the underground to go to meetings, etc. I was hospitalized 3 times and the docs at National Health Services became so frustrated with not being able to find out what was wrong that I would get sent home unable to eat or even hardly drink water. My heartrate was over 200 and my blood pressure sky high, but still they called it fecal-loading and refused to do any tests other than an ultrasound that didn't show stones.

    Finally, at the end of April, was able to fly back to the USA as far as Atlanta, but had to go to emergency from the airport. The ER doc gave me some percocet that made it possible to fly to my destination. I stayed ill until my gallbladder was removed the 16th of June and even then it took a week before I could stop vomiting or diarrhea 24/7.

    I guess this is all just repetition from my other posts, but it feels good to know someone understands. I will ask about the Zofran on Friday when I see my dr. and the Reglan. No side effects from the Zofran?

    I'm trying to stay positive and keep as busy as my body will let me...thank you again. Sophie

     
    Old 07-03-2007, 05:46 PM   #7
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    Re: Nausea, Diarrhea, Depression after Gallbladder Surgery

    I had mine taken out June 8th. My surgeon told me it might take at LEAST 8-10 weeks before I might see improvement. I agree with the pp, it's a week by week thing.

    My appetite was so-so after the surgery. I think I was more afraid of eating then anything. But I was eating regular almost a week afterwards.

    Good luck.

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 06:22 AM   #8
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    Sophie,

    Forgot to add that I also had right sided pain the first few weeks after surgery. Same type of pain I had before my surgery (more annoying than extremely painful). I was very afraid. For me the pain would come and go and if I changed position it would go away or not hurt as bad. My surgeon said because of that he thought it was muskoskeletal related or some nerve regeneration going on. He did later order an ultrasound to look for stones in the bile ducts but that was negative. I never did have any stones even before the surgery. And now I haven't had that pain in about a week and a half (knock on wood). I was originally diagnosed with biliary dyskenesia. the dr said it does take people longer to get relief from surgery with that than someone who had stones. If you did have gallstones you may need an ultrasound (probalby will get one anyway) or MRCP because you may still have a stone stuck in there. keep us posted. I think you are similar to me in that it is just going to take many more weeks for our bodies to adjust.
    Mikman, I didn't have stones. I had what they called DEBRIS which showed up on a second ultrasound done June 6th, and then after the gallbladder was removed they saw that it was full of what they call SLUDGE. My first ultrasound done in Scotland didn't show stones either. I have a thread called Debris in Gallbladder, please share your stories in this same section. Anyway, I think you are right about people like you and I taking longer to get over this without stones. I have had this debris and sludge in my system for a long time. By the time I went into surgery my keatones were sky high. My body was actually feeding off of itself because I was unable to eat...and this had gone on for 4 months. I ended up loosing 40 pounds since the first of March.

    Right now, other than being so weak, I don't feel too bad. I haven't eaten breakfast yet this morning, and don't know what to eat. I haven't eaten eggs since surgery, and I think the honey/oat cereal is one of the foods that makes me nauseous. I had a chicken lean cusine last night and it didn't make me sick although I have hearburn right now.

    Happy Fourth of July! Sophie

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 06:26 AM   #9
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    I had mine taken out June 8th. My surgeon told me it might take at LEAST 8-10 weeks before I might see improvement. I agree with the pp, it's a week by week thing.

    My appetite was so-so after the surgery. I think I was more afraid of eating then anything. But I was eating regular almost a week afterwards.

    Good luck.
    I'm getting some great feedback here. Thank you so much. This has really calmed me down about my present condition.

    Like you were, I am afraid to eat. It's only been 2 1/2 weeks since surgery.

    Thank you for your reply! Have a great Fourth of July! Sophie

     
    Old 07-04-2007, 03:13 PM   #10
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    Has any of your doctors mentioned a blocked sphincter of oddi problem? I had two mention it to me when I was in the hospital because I was so sick after the surgery. Just wondering...sophie

     
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    Sophie,

    Glad some of these posts have helped you mentally if anything. At least you can be confident that your gb needed to come out. I'm not so sure about mine. I've found that when I am just sitting around I feel worse I think because I can't stop thinking about every pain, twich, ache, etc that I feel in my abdomen. Drives me crazy. I've been off my all my meds for two days now (except Prilosec) and I haven't felt that bad. Hopy you start feeling better. Oh yeah, none of my doctors have mentioned Sphincter of Odi problems. I try not to think about it, just want to get better. The last thing I want is an ERCP. With my luck I would end up with pancreatitis. Have a good fourth.

     
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    How are you today without your meds? What sort of foods are you eating? Have your legs ever ached or throbbed when you were in pain?

    I really, really identify with what you are talking about. I do the same thing when I sit around. I worry that the ducts might be leaking bile...etc.

    I haven't been nauseous or had diarrhea since yesterday morning and don't know why that is. But I still have this nagging empty feeling in the pit of my stomach that makes me feel anxious and restless and my legs constantly ache. I ate lean cusine chicken meals and cut out all dairy two days ago.

    I know I'm homesick for the midwest which is where I lived before all this happened and before I went to Scotland last November. I have no friends here and pretty much have to cook my own meals and care for myself whether it was during the worst part of my illness, or after surgery. It was so bad at times while in the hospital in Scotland, and here before and after surgery that I actually thought I would be sick the rest of my life and began to imagine not living at all.

    I don't know if it is better to go through this stuff alone, or be surrounded by people who don't understand. Even my surgeon is a cheeky sort of little snob. Because my surgery was an emergency, (I was scheduled with another surgeon two days later) he was on call so he was expected to do it but he out-and-out told me he didn't think it would solve the problem, and he also told me this several times after surgery. He is the one who wanted me to schedule an indoscopy to check out the sphicter of odi after I healed from surgery. I see him for my post surgery follow-up tomorrow.

    But now, after two weeks, my discomfort is down 80% physically so yes, I am sure it was my gallbladder with all the sludge in it etc. But mentally, I am just barely hanging on sometimes.

    I'm sorry if this is too wordy or repetitious. But these posts have really helped me, and I think they will hopefully help others at a later date. I am a writer and if I ever feel as if I can sit and actually work on a project again, I am going to write a piece about the nightmare I have gone through with this illness, hospitals, doctors, friends and lovers. People need to know that they are not alone.

    I think we are very brave. Sophie

     
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    Day three without my Reglan or Zofran and I am surprised that I feel as good as I do. Actually felt half way normal most of today until lunch where I stupidly picked the hot turkey sandwich at the hospital cafeteria where I work. I've been living on grilled chicken and all types of chicken and turkey sandwhiches and thought I would try something with some fat. Won't do that again for awhile. I even had some right sided pain, don't know why I would have that. Still, I don't feel as bad as last week and I was taking all the meds then. I don't know how long that stuff stays in my system and hope I am getting better by myself and it isn't just the meds still in me.

    Glad you are at least better physically. Remember, for me, it was the three week mark before the nausea subsided enough that I was functional. I know what you mean about the mental thing. I still get depressed (even some today) but when I was about where you are now I was worse. I wasn't suicidal or anything but I wouldn't mind being struck by lightning or something either. Before all of this I was the happiest person. I would think of my wife and three daughters daily and wonder "how did I ever get so lucky"? I don't feel that way now and it makes me sad. I just want to be like I was. I am conscious of the fact I never smile or laugh anymore. I keep telling myself it is just around the corner.

    Maybe soon you will feel better and be able to move back among your friends and family. Scotland must of been awesome before you got ill. Always wanted to go there. I really wish you the best.

     
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    It's like you can read my mind. Before I got sick I was over the moon with my writing career and life in Scotland. And yes, it is an awesome place however, the healthcare is really bad if one needs to use the National Health Services. I don't know how private insurance is, but it must be much better. I was there during the winter months so it was usually too cold and wet for me to do much traveling around the country but if one were to go there as a tourist there would be wonderful sites to see.

    Anyway, I know what you mean about wanting your old self back. I used to be so happy with a great sense of humor, energetic, and always being creative and active.

    It's funny you mentioned working at the hospital. I worked in healthcare at a large hospital before moving to Scotland last November. I need to find work fast, (now $32,000 in debt with medical bills because I came back to the USA without health insurance) but cannot do so until I can get well. I woke up this morning at 4 a.m. with horrible nausea, weakness, and dry heaves. I'm still pretty sick and ache all over. The usual. Anyway, I see my surgeon today so hopefully he will have some answers. But I don't know if he would understand about the depression thing.

    I'm curious how your day went today without the meds. Please let me know. And thank you again for keeping in touch. I am praying you are better today than yesterday. I'm happy for you that you have such a wonderful family around you. Sophie

     
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    Miknan...didn't you say once that you were prescribed compazine for nausea? If so, were there any side effects? I started a new thread regarding compazine. I went to pick up my zofran and the cost was $804! Of course, without insurance I couldn't buy it so the next choice is the compazine. Thanks! Hope you had a good day. Sophie

     
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