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    Old 04-19-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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    pain below right ribcage and pain travelling round to back or just back pain aswell

    i started having a pain about 1 inch below my right ribcage 11 months ago. the pain is all ways there but gets stronger and the easers in patchs. after having 2 months of pain below my right ribcage, the pain then startd in my back. 11 months later today the pain is worse in my back than below ribcage. i have pain in back and in right side from waking to goin to bed at night. pain is sometomes worse when i lift or try to do any more than a walk.i also get nausea. i have seen 3 doctors and 1 gastro.all said they basically have not got a clue and put it down to ibs.i am not convinced.i have seen 3 phyisios that say my lower back joints are tight for my age but general movement of back is fine.although 1 physio said that there was thickness were i was getting my abdomen pain below ribcage. my pain is a dull aching pain that is in my back and below ribcage . when i wake in a morning abdomen muscles are very tight and back is very stiff. and they may ease through out day untill i do anything that is more than a walk that makes it worse. i have had 2 weeks off and done nothing see if this would make it better but pain was same through out the 2 weeks. i have had 2 x rays ,2 ultresounds,6 blood tests ,1 barium meal,1 colonoscopy and all came back fine. this is driving me mad and i could do with any ideas or help as i am cluching at straws......thank you.. sorry about spelling and grammer

     
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    Old 04-19-2009, 08:14 AM   #2
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    Re: lower back pain

    i am 23 year old male. i started with a pain below my right ribcage 11 months ago. The first 2 month pain was below ribcage then startd moving into back. pain is there all day in back and below ribcage and no tablets help it.i have had 2 xrays 5 blood tests 1 barium meal and 1 colonoscopy.all came back fine.i no this is not in my head and i could do with any help poss.. i have seen 3 physios and they just said that my back joints are stiff for my age and a bit of thickness below ribcage. no treatment from physio helps and accupuncture is a joke. when the pain started i had been eating fatty foods and drinking heavily for 4 days. i have now stopd all of these and there is no change in pain. i have had no injury to cause my pain please could ne 1 help coz i am so down and out.

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    Old 04-19-2009, 10:07 AM   #3
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    apoligies for going off the subject before i start.i am 23 year old male and have been suffering from pain for 11 months now..my pain startd 11 months ago below my right ribcage. 2 months later the pain developd in my back.. now today it is in both . the pain is a dull aching pain that never goes apart from when i sleep.pain also gets worse when lifting or doining anything faster than a walk.i have had periods of 2 and 3 weeks off and have not got the slightist better.. iam always tight around affected areas especially in the morning. i have had 2 x rays 6 blood tests, 2 ultresounds,barium meal ,colonoscopy and all came back fine.i have seen 3 phyisios and all they said was my back was tight for my age and had a bit of thickness below were pain is below ribcage. no treatment or accupuncture make me feel better from the phyisios.doctors have tried pain tablets, antripmalin and gabapentin and none have made me feel any better. a would cherrish any advise or points you could give me as i am very down. appoligies again from going of the thread subject ....thank you .............

     
    Old 04-19-2009, 10:32 AM   #4
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    Re: New Appointment

    do u think it could be a slow functioning gallbladder..would a hida scan be any good????????? and would a mri scan show up anything that a berium meal or ultresound scan would'nt??????

     
    Old 04-19-2009, 10:49 AM   #5
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    Re: Still very confused

    i am a 23 year old male that has been suffering from pain for tha past 11 months. when the pain first started it was a dull aching pain below my right ribcage . 2 months after it moved to my back and continued below ribcage. it starts from waking in a morning to goin to bed at night . only things that make it worse is lifting and moveing any faster than a walk.i have had 2 x rays 6 blood tests 2 ultresounds 1 colonoscopy 1 barium meal.. doctors thinkit is ibs but i am not convinced.i have seen 3 phyisio on numerose occations all they say is that myback is tight for my age and that i had some thickness were below ribcage were pain is comin from.. no treatment or accupuncture helps at all.. i have run out of ideas ? does any 1 think i could have a slow functioning gallbladder?????????? with me haveing back pain should i have an mri scan?will this show anything that other tests i have had didnt please help coz a just dont no what to do thank yop .........

     
    Old 04-20-2009, 08:07 AM   #6
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    Re: Still very confused

    The HIDA scan might be a good idea...esp sine oyu are having nausea as well. Though I do understand they are tough to get in England...evidently it's not used a lot there.

     
    Old 04-20-2009, 02:11 PM   #7
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    Re: Still very confused

    do you think an mri would be worth while?a go to see my doctor again on thursday.is an mri better than an ultresound with my problems?

     
    Old 04-20-2009, 02:21 PM   #8
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    Re: Still very confused

    I've been having very similar pain for about 6 months. I want an MRI, but no one decides to give it to me regardless of how much I ask. I had a HIDA scan done, but supposedly everything is alright with my gallbladder. Please let us know what the doctors tell you.

     
    Old 04-20-2009, 02:32 PM   #9
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    Re: Still very confused

    if your pain does turn out to be to do with your muscles i have been told to try prolotherapy. they also think i have got ibs. i have been doing a diet for 4 days and have slightly improved. 75 percent of your meals has to be soluble fiber...like..pasta rice noodles fresh white french bread carrots ect other 25 percent should be normal fiber...

     
    Old 04-21-2009, 12:11 PM   #10
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    Re: pain below right ribcage and pain travelling round to back or just back pain aswe

    Thank You for your insight and letting me know about the prolotherapy. I'm young like you (24) and I'm actually looking for some kind of cure. I would have to look more closely at this prolotherapy thing so I can find out if it doesn't do more harm than good.

    As for you, if you even suspect that it is your gallbladder, maybe you should get the HIDA scan.

    I def. don't hope I gotta deal with these things for 11 months. This is all putting a stop to my life. I think I need an MRI and a liver biopsy (just to make sure, and these seem to be low risk). But the doctors don't seem to be willing to write me a referral for these tests. I'm in NYC by the way, so if anyone has a lead, please message me.

    I also would like to know how your pain came about. Mine came about randomly, but I was doing some different jogging and push-up exercises beforehand (2-3 days before). I feel like something has shifted out of place or something is not where it should be. What were you doing in the days leading up to you feeling pain?

     
    Old 04-21-2009, 02:21 PM   #11
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    Re: pain below right ribcage and pain travelling round to back or just back pain aswe

    well 2 weeeks before i got the pain i was working on a building site and doing a lot of heavy lifting .but it wasnt until 4 days after i stopd doing the lifting that it came on. i went out on the friday nite on the beer got up the next morning and startd from there. i dint injure my self or fall over it came on randomly..i my self have a theroy the past 11 months i have gatherd as much information about my pains as possible. i beleave that in certain people you can sort of sometimes do too much work on your muscles,and instead of them snaping or tearing they sort of weaken very slowly until they are that weak everytime you go to lift something that is light its like your lifting something that is heavy. i have done a lot of heavy lifting for 5 years so that would sort of fit in.also do you ever feel the need to go to the toilet either for a no 1 or 2. this is because of your muscles contracting.i beleave the only way forward is prolotherapy... and testostrome. now i no this is clasd as an illegal steroid but if used in the correct doseage it not only heals muscles and basically any thing else that is weak it strengthens them.. so the next time you do your work out or just bend and twist, your muscles will with stand the tensionspeak too your doctor about it and dont give up i have been at it 11 months and i am still posotive.ask your self 2 questions1..do you get back ach in a mornig or just randomly come on through out the day.2.. does it always come on when you are lifting bending and twisting,and does this make your muscles tighten and crampif so and only if phyiso therapy does not work ask to try the above..and finally make sure you eat loads of fruit and veg no burgers chips of owt like that. you need to be eating lots of rice pasta carrots tuna and salmon..good look speak too you again...

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    Old 04-22-2009, 08:14 PM   #12
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    Re: pain below right ribcage and pain travelling round to back or just back pain aswe

    Thanks for the advice Acott,

    Personally, I was not doing any "weightlifting". Most of my exercises were without any weight at all. It was more equipment free-exercises. I just feel that something was shifted out of place, and that is causing my GERD issues. I went to a chiropractor and he couldn't notice anything. I wish there was some way that things could be shifted back.

    According to your theory about your own issues, you feel the muscles may have become weak and remained weak, right? I know it's painful to work-out when we have all these other issues to worry about, but is it working out that fixes weak muscles?

    I did a quick search on prolotherapy and I think it isn't covered by insurance. I hope that I can correct my issues before it comes to that.

     
    Old 04-23-2009, 01:29 PM   #13
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    Re: pain below right ribcage and pain travelling round to back or just back pain aswe

    your probly right with the working out to fix weak muscles. i have found one thing out though. the reason niether of us have been refferd for an mri scan is to do with money. our nhs over in u.k do not want to keep paying out for an mri scan for what they call aches and pains. you have to have seriouse inflamation over a joint or other area to get 1. i have been refferd back to a pain clinic and am just goin to take it from there..

    on your issue , what if it was a ligament or something simular would your chiropractor be able to notice your problem with them been so deep inside your body...?

    if you cant get an mri try for an ultresound they are just as good.. i hope the best for you many thanx for writing back...

     
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