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    Old 09-03-2006, 01:34 PM   #1
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    Question chronic tension headaches

    I was wondering if there is anyone else that suffers from chronic daily headaches that resemble a tension headache? If so do you find you have tension in your neck, jaw and shoulders as well? And does it also make you feel lightheaded,along with pressure behind your eyes? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks boxerlover

     
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    Old 09-04-2006, 10:50 PM   #2
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    I have all of those symptoms too due to TMJ. Do you have TMJ? Today, I got rid of a bad headache by massaging my head with an electric massager. My scalp was so sore too.

     
    Old 09-05-2006, 08:03 AM   #3
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    Hi Sunshine123
    I do have TMJ also.
    I am finding that these headaches are becoming all the time, pressure feeling around my whole head. My eyes feel so heavy at times.
    I also have some vertigo in the mix, which I am assuming is related??
    Besides for your massage have you found any relief other wise? The lightheadness is driving my crazy, and I live on advil.. Thanks for any advice.
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    Old 09-06-2006, 10:54 AM   #4
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    Hi boxerlover: I've been through TMJ treatment so many times already. Eventually, I wore braces b/c I had an open bite. I did well for awhile, but several months after the braces were removed, the headaches started coming back. I use ice, heat, and do jaw stretching exercises from "Taking Control of TMJ" by Robert Uppguard. I also take a muscle relaxer and Xanax before bed. I wear a splint to bed, but I grind and/or clench on it. But, sometimes I wear it during the day to prevent a headache or get rid of one. Acupuncture helps a lot with the ear pain and sometimes with the headaches. Yes, the symptoms you mentioned are all related to TMJ. I used to have the dizzy sensations; kind of like I was walking sideways. I take Advil also. Yesterday, I could hear a crackling sound in my ear, but it's gone today. I used to have that pressure behind my eyes. That drove me nuts as much as the headaches. I know how hard it is to live like this. It truly sucks. I hope something I said will help you. Sue

     
    Old 09-06-2006, 02:51 PM   #5
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    Hi Sunshine
    Thank you so much for sharing that with me.
    Sometimes I feel like I am crazy for having this headache all the time.
    I also have the crackling sounds in my ears that also comes and goes, It is so annoying at times, mostly when I talk or other peoples voices, triggers the crackling as well or just yawning I hear crackles. It drives me crazy!!!
    I also feel like you, my balance is so off. I mostly feel a motion sensation like you get in an elevator. But just walking creates a sensation as if I am falling to the side as well as standing still, I am either falling sideways, backwards.I hate this feeling it makes me sick to my stomach at times. I also take xanax when needed and this seems to calm down the symptoms some.
    I am going to look into the book you mentioned hopefully I can find some comfort in this book as well. Thank you so much again, your words have helped me so much in realizing I am not crazy and all the symptoms I feel are real.. Boxerlover

     
    Old 09-06-2006, 03:22 PM   #6
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    You're welcome boxerlover. Good luck and write back anytime. Sue

     
    Old 09-11-2006, 11:26 AM   #7
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    Hi boxerlover. I have seen some of your posts on the anxiety board and saw some over on this board. I was looking around over here because I have a headache that won't go away. I may have asked you this already on the anxiety board, and if I did I'm sorry to repeat myself. Have you ever injured your neck? I have herniated discs in my neck and have many of the same problems that you do. I have been lightheaded for almost 4 years now. It has actually gotten better in recent months, but has been replaced by more persistent headaches. It feels like my head has so much pressure in it that it will just burst. I am convinced that this is all related to my neck. I just got a referral to a neurologist (since my insurance denied my MRI request by my PCP) so I am anxious to see what he thinks. Let me know if you have any neck or spine issues.

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    Old 09-12-2006, 03:56 PM   #8
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    Hubby has chronic ha. Had a MRI and was referred to NS. Has 5 bulging disc out of seven in his neck two or three of which are pressing against the spine. Went to NS and he referred us back to a neurologist. Do you know how many neurologist and regular doctors we have seen in 25 years??? Well, let me tell you it is a bunch. He has had so many tests and you know how expensive they can be (with no insurance) We thought sure when the NS saw the MRI he would want to do surgery. He didn't believe it related to the headaches not to mention the neck pain. We were so discouraged. Got our hopes up again this week was going to do a headache study with a new drug and discovered because he is on BP med he didn't qualify for that. I feel for all the HA sufferers and their spouses it is a horrible thing to go thru.

     
    Old 09-13-2006, 04:44 AM   #9
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    Good Morning Boxer and all,

    I hope this finds everyone doing well. I usually post on the Inner Ear Boards, but today my headache is really bothersome (I usually have a daily headache on some level) so I thought I'd jump on here to read a few of the related posts.

    FYI that on the Inner Ear boards, people post there with all kinds of imbalance issues - this could mean vertigo, the elevator feeling, feeling off-balance, etc. I also deal with these issues, along with my headaches.

    I have had my symptoms for about twelve years. After going to many specialists, I have been given the diagnosis of MAV (Migraine Associated Vertigo). Many people think that "Migraine" means "Headache", but it actually means "poor blood flow". With MAV, although a headache could be present, the main symptoms are along the lines of vertiginous symptoms, which include the "funny" sensations of walking on marshmellows, feeling your head or body moving when it isn't, imbalance problems, and sometimes even neurological symptoms.

    The symptoms associated with MAV can change depending on what is going on when you have an episodic MAV moment. MAV symptoms can linger for years, or suddenly go away for moments, months, or years at a time.

    If you have a chance, check out the Inner Ear Board. I have a ton of postings there also, and you can do a search on my old user name (Wowwweee) or my current user name to read more about my situation, and what I found out about MAV.

    Either way, it's just a thought. I wish you and everyone on this board, well.

    xo

     
    Old 09-13-2006, 06:59 AM   #10
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    Leela_C, sorry to interrupt everybody, but I couldn't help but reply to what she wrote. I also started suffering headaches and migraines from bulging discs in my neck. Nerves were being pushed on that were causing the headaches. Finally, I saw a pm dr who put me on the right med that stopped the h/a's. The neck is still hurting, but at least I can half-way function. I went on topamax for the h/a's and it has been a blessing for me. It is actually an anti-siezure med that has other uses. Nerve pain is one of them. Has your dr talked to you about any meds like this? Eventually, topamax trains your brain to quit sending the pain signal and you may be able to get off of the med. I'm at four months and slowly going off now. I'm back down to 50mg's and have no h/a's. (Except the tmj ones) and thanks everyone for all the good info.

     
    Old 09-13-2006, 08:52 AM   #11
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    Re: chronic tension headaches

    BlueSteam - in order not to hijack the original thread I posted a new one titled "Headaches related to neck problems". We can discuss there. Thanks!

     
    Old 09-13-2006, 05:44 PM   #12
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    Hi Everyone
    Thank you all for your responses as well as thoughts.
    Leela~ I don't ever recall injuring my neck. Besides for some bad trigger points, stiff neck feeling and the crackling sounds now and then that's about all the neck problems that I "know" of.. It is a great point because I know neck problems will indeed cause headaches.. I wouldn't be surprised if that is where your headaches are stemming from. I will keep that thought in mind.

    Wowwwweeee~ Thank you very much for sharing the migraine theory with me. I myself think I suffer from migraines.. without a doubt.
    I also think the vertigo is either inner ear related or migraine related.
    I wrote a post not to long ago asking anyone with migraines and vertigo to please send some information my way.. But the responses where not that many. My vertigo seems to be the motion type (subjective vertigo) Like you mentioned. I get a swaying sensation, floaty head feeling, sinking feeling, constant motion sensation, and the good old elevator sensation.. Not so much the spins.. My headache is usually always present, and I notice if I lay down the feeling subsides.. I have had this headache and vertigo for several years now, so I am starting to think it's migraine, I have read that so many suffer from migraines for years and don't even realize it, and that the symptoms of vertigo can be present without the headache! Amazing..
    I am wondering you said a blood flow problem, what did you mean by that? Should I be concerned? Also how were you diagnosed and what treatments were you given and have they helped the vertigo and headaches?
    I know that is a lot of questions, but you seem to be the only one who responded to what I originally thought, as well as your vertigo being like mine. I will also stop in at the inner ear board and read your other posts.
    Thank you so much for any information and thoughts you can pass along to me. It's very comforting as well as greatly appreciated!
    Look forward to your reply.
    Boxerlover (boxers leave paw prints in our hearts forever)

     
    Old 09-14-2006, 08:06 AM   #13
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    Hi Leela, and all,

    I'm sorry that you are dealing with bad headaches also. I'm not sure which is more limiting at times, the symptoms associated with (for me) MAV, or the related anxiety.

    If you have a moment, go into the Inner Ear Board, and look under the Information Archives. There is a post from me (under, I believe, my old user name: Wowwweee) about dealing with Stress/Anxiety. You may find something helpful in there, not only for your headaches, but for your anxiety.

    One would think after having "head symptoms" for so long, that they would lose the "power" to limit you. But my anxieties are still very much triggered by my head symptoms, and I have found that the more anxious I am, the less tolerant I am for coping, and then I feel worse physically from my head symptoms, and feel worse mentally/emotionally from not coping well, and the cycle continues.

    Eegads, I could go on.....

    Please post back and let me know what you thought of my Anxiety posting. Many people found it helpful which is how it made it's way into the Inner Ear Information Archives.

    Well wishes to you, and to the board, for a peaceful day.

     
    Old 09-14-2006, 10:25 AM   #14
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    I already found your post and read it earlier. That was great. I just think it is horrible that there are so many people out there with symptoms that are not easily explained so the doctors just give you an anxiety diagnosis without really trying to find out what the real problem is. This, in turn, causes anxiety. I have been treated so badly by doctors that I am afraid to even go to them anymore. I went to a therapist that told me she figures I have had anxiety all of my life but with my other symptoms and the way I am treated by doctors it has caused it to come on full force.

    I hope this isn't getting this post too off topic, because I think that most people who have these chronic problems that go undiagnosed also develop anxiety to go along with it. Then, when you try to go to a doctor they just blame everything on anxiety. Sometimes it just isn't fair the way we are treated.

    Wowwwweeee are you on this board much? I will probably have more questions for you regarding MAV and maybe even your battle with anxiety. If I do I will start a new post.

    Boxerlover thanks for starting this thread. Because of it I have gotten so many answers that I hadn't even really been looking for!!!

     
    Old 09-14-2006, 11:13 AM   #15
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    Leela,

    It's amazing the things we tell "perfect strangers" sometimes. Having said that, I will tell you that I have ben dealing with anxiety on some level since approximately age nine. My anxieties have always pretty much centered around hypochondria and fear of leaving my parents.

    I can understand WHY doctors are quick to chalk so many physical sensations and symptoms up to anxiety. Regarding me, I look and sound healthy. My tests and examinations (blessedly) reveal that I am healthy. But that doesn't stop me from FEELING these symptoms, and being afraid and limited because of them.

    Along with that, I was actually told by one ENT that I "should" be glad that I didn't have MS, and just deal with my head symptoms. Give me a break. Another specialist (supposedly one of the TOP around here) had no compassion at all, and was actually borderline rude. He was an neuro-oto I believe. He basically told me he had nothing to offer me, hence no hope. On top of that, when I asked him if he had ever been dizzy, he stated "no". Talk about not being able to provide good, understanding customer service.

    I say, expect to meet some of the types of doctors, and make the effort to look elsewhere for those medical professionals that WILL take the time and that WILL listen. There are those out there, also.

    With regards to chronic tension headaches, I do feel that the majority of my headaches ARE just that. However, when you take something like a chronic headache caused by anxiety or stress, and add to the a worrisome nature AND physical symptoms/sensations - well, it's not wonder they don't ever go away.

    I have headaches on some level every day. Some days I can tolerate them well, meaning that I do not take anything for them. Some days, a quick ten minute rub on my neck and shoulders will help alleviate the immediate tightness so that I feel better, and some days (like the past two), I feel miserable and they add to my other head (MAV) symptoms.

    It's just by chance that I popped into the Headache Board, as I usually will post on the Inner Ear Boards because I find many peers dealing with the same kinds of physical and emotional situations that I do.

    I will make it a point to check back on this specific board, for this thread. I post more frequently when I am upset with my own symptoms. Otherwise, I usually will just read and re-read the posts that are relate-able to me as a way to calm myself down on the days my head is really woozy.

    xo

     
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