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    Old 10-17-2003, 08:51 PM   #1
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    To get to the bottom of the cause of my headaches, I'm exploring every possible thing that could be causing them. So far I have a list with 17 possible causes (and growing!), so there is a lot of research for me to do!

    I've bought several digital thermometers in the past couple years, complaining that they never worked because they all said my temperature was 96-97. Then I went to the doctor the other day, and my temperature actually was 96.9! I've started putting two and two together. I get cold very easily. The house is set to 74 degrees and I'm freezing with a sweater on.

    So, I got on the internet to figure this out, and it turns out I find some articles associating low body temperature with headaches and migraines!

    Now, before I go to the doctor time and time again with my long list, has anyone else found some association between the two? Could this be the cause I've been looking for or am I really stretching to find an answer?

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    Old 10-18-2003, 03:39 AM   #2
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    froggietcu
    I have had migraines for several years...I also have low body temp.(many days as low as 96.4),which the doc knows about and he had never put the 2 together so I am really curious to see what you find out!Bonnie

     
    Old 10-18-2003, 10:54 PM   #3
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    I also have low body temp. It usually runs about 97. I've asked the Dr. about it but he just says it's "normal" for some people. Another weird thing is that when it's even slightly cold my fingers turn numb. Anyway, I'll be watching this post to see what others have to say. This is an interesting theory.

     
    Old 10-19-2003, 01:26 AM   #4
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    i'm a daily migraine sufferer, also. my normal body temperature is about 97 degrees. i have a couple digital thermometers and was wondering if they were actually working. doctors have said they were wrong about the 98.6 degree thing and that everyone's temperature isn't 98.6 on average. if you find this connected, yes, please let us know.

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    Old 10-20-2003, 05:58 PM   #5
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    I too have a low body temperature. A holistic doctor treated me for a sluggish Thyroid and something called Wilson's Syndrome, in which the major symptom is low body temperature. He told me the low temp. thing is an indication of thyroid problems. I do notice, though, that when I get a migraine, my fingers and feet get really, really cold. I've never made the correlation between the headache and the low body temperature--thanks so much for posting about this. I'll be interested to see what comes out of it!

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    Old 10-22-2003, 11:33 AM   #6
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    I haven't been back to see my doctor yet, but I thought I would post a few links with information that I found indicating some sort of relation. There don't seem to be any official studies out there, but I found these links interesting:
    [url="http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Allergy/hunter67.htm"]http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Allergy/hunter67.htm[/url]

    "Researchers Emanuel Donchin and Noel Marshall, from the University of Chicago, found that slight low body temperature, just one or two degrees below normal, was enough to reduce certain brain responses in test subjects.5
    Dr Stephen Langer,6 estimates that 40% of Americans have subnormal temperatures. He found that a mere one degree below the desired 98.6F is sufficient to produce a host of mental and physical symptoms such as headaches, depression, nervousness, etc."
    [url="http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/WilsonsThyroidSyndromeSymptoms.htm"]http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com/WilsonsThyroidSyndromeSymptoms.htm[/url]
    From a site about Wilson's Sydrome

    The other thing I found interesting (which I have not yet researched much), is biofeedback. Many migraine sufferers have supposedly relieved their headaches this way, which supposedly teaches you to raise your body temperature (among other things).

    I'd love to hear any feedback from anyone else on this possible correlation.

     
    Old 10-25-2003, 07:51 AM   #7
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    This thread sounds like I am reading about myself. everytime I get a headache which lasts for days if I dont take my medicine that is. I have run out and had to wait on a refill. But every time I do I take my temp because I keep thinking my head is burning up all the while my body is freezing. My temp has always read 97.2 and this last time I took it I threw my digital thermeter away thinking it was not working right because I have had it for so many years. Well two days ago I had to go to the emergency room for a migraine and I had to wait seven hours because it was so full which was horriffic because I was thinking of anything I could do to knock myself out so I wouldnt feel no more pain until they finally gave me a Demeral shot anyway to make a long story short when they took my temp the nurse told the doctor in there it was 97 she didnt say 97. anything. So yes I have the same problem.
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    Old 11-15-2003, 02:38 PM   #8
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    Have you had an MRI? Arnold Chiari Malformations, if they are the right shape can cause your temp to be low. Another thought,
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    Old 11-15-2003, 05:15 PM   #9
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    Have you had an MRI? Arnold Chiari Malformations, if they are the right shape can cause your temp to be low. Another thought,
    AJ
    That's interesting...I've never heard that. I was told I had a mild ACM but it was incidental, & it didn't show up on a later CT. I also have low body temp (97), low bp, migraines, ADD, sleep apnea, pineal cyst (also incidental?), & possibly partial seizures (1st EEG was inconclusive, 2nd is pending). Does anything else cause all this stuff?

     
    Old 11-15-2003, 07:41 PM   #10
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    wow, you just might be on to something...my temp is always around 97 as well and i get pretty good headaches about 3 times a week and even worse when i was pregnant. i also really like caffeine or however you spell it, so it could be due to that, but still, good find!

     
    Old 11-16-2003, 11:09 PM   #11
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    ajack - No, I haven't gotten an MRI yet. I'm still in search for a neurologist and have an appointment in January, so hopefully then. I did have a CT Scan, but they didn't say anything about Arnold-Chiari. I never even heard of it, so I will look more into it.

    On another note, I discussed the low body temperature idea with my family doctor. He said that the way they came up with 98.6 is that they took 100 med students, measured their temperatures, and took the average. He said it was not very scientific and that very few people actually have 98.6. So, if what he says is true, then my theory goes debunk.

    I do still wonder about getting cold so easily, though.

    nyxin - I have a feeling your headaches might just be caused by the caffeine. But, I certainly understand denial of any association with that and headaches!

     
    Old 11-17-2003, 09:49 AM   #12
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    ajack - No, I haven't gotten an MRI yet. I'm still in search for a neurologist and have an appointment in January, so hopefully then. I did have a CT Scan, but they didn't say anything about Arnold-Chiari. I never even heard of it, so I will look more into it.

    On another note, I discussed the low body temperature idea with my family doctor. He said that the way they came up with 98.6 is that they took 100 med students, measured their temperatures, and took the average. He said it was not very scientific and that very few people actually have 98.6. So, if what he says is true, then my theory goes debunk.

    I do still wonder about getting cold so easily, though.

    nyxin - I have a feeling your headaches might just be caused by the caffeine. But, I certainly understand denial of any association with that and headaches!
    Unless you have a very severe chiari malformation, it won't show up on a CT. Body temps vary by about a degree within a day just by person to person. But there is a trend within certain people with certain conditions(thyroid conditions, chiari) where they always have a lower temp. For some people with chiari, they won't get temps above 99, even with serious infections, so you still need to be aware of how your own body temp fluctuates.

     
    Old 11-17-2003, 02:07 PM   #13
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    For some people with chiari, they won't get temps above 99, even with serious infections.
    This just keeps getting more interesting. I've never had a temp over 99 in spite of several wild bouts of strep, pneumonia, etc. Docs never take me seriously b/c I never have a fever...it's soooo frustrating! Are there docs in N. CA who treat chiari, or is it usually considered incidental?

     
    Old 11-19-2003, 01:44 PM   #14
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    This just keeps getting more interesting. I've never had a temp over 99 in spite of several wild bouts of strep, pneumonia, etc. Docs never take me seriously b/c I never have a fever...it's soooo frustrating! Are there docs in N. CA who treat chiari, or is it usually considered incidental?
    If you have a malformation(which is diagnosed by MRI), if it is severe enough, it can be treated by a pretty invasive and intensive surgery. There are doctors all over the country who treat chiari malformations, you need to make sure you find a specialist. If you don't have a malformation that is large enough, or causes enough symptoms that it needs to be treated, then there isn't much that can be done. But having it documented, and knowing how it could effect your body is important and may help your primary care physician treat you better.
    AJ

     
    Old 11-24-2003, 08:14 AM   #15
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    Re: low body temperature

    My body temp usually runs 97.5 on an average and I too get headaches. I am anxious to hear what your doctor says. What kind of doctor are you going to? A Neurologist?

     
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