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    Old 01-03-2003, 10:05 AM   #1
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    Hi everybody,

    I had a stapedectomy on my right ear 25 years ago to restore my hearing in the first going-deaf ear. The surgery was a bungled nightmare but the results were very good.

    I noticed somebody posted a mention of a "laser stependectomy"(sic/I think). Did she mean laser stapedectomy and does anyone know about this.
    Mine was a go-in-with-a-chisel-chop-away kind of thing...and the anesthesia didn't work.....such indecribable pain!

    I really want the other ear done, but am frightened. With one ear I have no sense of direction and a constant screeching tinnitus from the deaf ear. Also a whisper at the theater in the wrong ear is a joke! LOL

     
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    Old 01-27-2003, 07:42 AM   #2
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    I had a stapedectomy in 1989 and it was botched. You are so right, the pain. I couldn't get numb either and I felt it and it was terrible.

    The surgeon that screwed up the surgery had to send me on to his professor of 16 years past and that doctor in Minneapolis and to do it over. Thank God for him.

    I was terribly sick after the surgery because of all the tinkering in the ear and had to be hospitalized overnight and put on alot of anti nausea drugs and prednisone.

    A year later the surgeon the redid my surgery told me my left ear needed the surgery bad. I said NO WAY. He tried to convince me that I would have a better surgery because he got his hands on it the first time and it wasn't a repair job.

    We talked and finally I told him the only way I would do it was if I were put under. He said, I can see your point and I will go for it. He said he could do it without me being awake. That surgery went perfect. No nausea, no pain except a little after I woke up and I didn't have the terrible spins. It was a night and day difference in being put out and having a good surgeon do it.

    Why don't you ask if you can, and if he says its not possible, say yes it is, Theresa a gal from the internet had it done. I live in Wisconsin and it was worth the 100 mile drive each way.

    Hope this helps you...

    Good luck
    Theresa

     
    Old 04-17-2003, 12:30 AM   #3
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    Hi, how was your trip to the docs? Have you got a date for your next stapedectomy? Have they said they will do it under general anaesthetic etc? You have been v quiet, hope all is ok.
    Caz

     
    Old 04-18-2003, 03:17 AM   #4
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    Hi caz,

    Cute coincidence. I got my new referral to a surgeon last week. I tried to make an appointment yesterday but I couldn't get through.
    I'll try again today.

    I will INSIST (I think [ ] that I get a general anaethesia.

    Czuby,
    Sorry, I missed your post.
    Thanks for the comparison with the anaethesia result...If I DO or MUST go the local route I will make damn sure they give me the Lidocaine in a quart sized horse syringe!

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    Old 04-27-2003, 05:23 AM   #5
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    Caz,

    I'm all lined up with a referral and an appointment with the surgeon and an audiological testing all on Friday (May 2).
    Surgeon's nurse seems to thin that the end of May/early June would be the sugery (he lectures worldwide on cochlear implants and is only in New York 2 days a week...busy).
    I will broach the subject of general anaesthesia when I see him (hoping). I've read several places that generals are quite common now. When I had the first one done (1978?( they were NEVER done under general.(I presume they've got the technique more down pat today)

     
    Old 04-27-2003, 03:12 PM   #6
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    Hiya,

    That's great - looking forward to reading your update on here on Friday!

    I can't see any reason why you shouldn't have a general anaesthetic-particularly under the circumstances of your previous experience, as well as the fact that they seem to be more adept these days too.

    I'm sure you will find it a completely different experience this time.

    Will be thinking about you on Friday - I'll have my fingers crossed for you!
    Good Luck with it,
    Caz

     
    Old 05-04-2003, 05:22 AM   #7
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    caz,


    All set for surgery June 12....excellent otosurgeon at a prestigeous teaching hospital. It will be a GENERAL (that's all he does and will be a "23 hour admission"...resting in a bed til anaesthesia wears off. I guess at 23:59 the insurance company calls a special number at the hospital and I am immediatly catapulted from my bed down a chute to the street...I'd better keep my clothes on

    Jesus, my hearing response curve falls off (in BOTH ears like the Dow Jones average since Dubya was appointed president). I have a SNEAKING hunch that it's caused by the frightful tinnitus in my bad ear. Some of the higher auditory test notes were like hearing a few tiny beeps during high tide at Waiameha with 40 foot crashing breakers.
    SO my personal feeling is that I'll get back LOTS of the high frequencies....I just KNOW I haven't lost them.

    He told me a couple of other interesting facts (he teaches stapedectomy in spite of looking about 12 )
    1. That ototsclerosis continues one's whole life even AFTER the surgery.
    2. The major reason for failure of the procedure is the sclerosing of the ROUND WINDOW (the pressure vent). He said, unfortunately, that condition is too difficult for surgery. Perhaps your first stapedectomy got kebolluxed with that condition?

    He also does (and teaches) cochlear implants. I don't know a THING about them, but they sound promising for the future of hearing.

    How's the NaF treatments going?



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    Old 05-05-2003, 10:31 AM   #8
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    Hi Zip,

    Brilliant news about the new stapes - what will it be made of? SO pleased about the general anaesthetic. How are you feeling about it all? You'll be fine. Really excited for you.

    My Naf treatment is going ok thanks. Left it off for a week after finding I got a mouthful of acidy bile if I bent over - not very pleasant! LOL Seems ok now. Not getting the burning sensations in my stomach - I guess the lining has been burnt off now and killed all my nerve endings so I don't feel any more pain!

    My specialist has arranged an appt for me to see a rheumatologist on 12th May - this is to check out my skeleton and make sure I'm not about to snap in half or anything. Have started taking a calcium supplement just to be on the safe side, but will see what this bloke says next week. Can't take anything with calcium in it within 2hrs of the Naf because it reduces the absorption of fluoride into the system - apparently so I have found out from trawling the www.

    Overall things are ok - but instead of getting rid of tinnitus it seems to be worse. Going for hearing test this week when I go to stock up on hearing-aid batteries, see what that shows...

    It's a great life if you don't weaken!! LOL

    Take care of yerself.
    Speak soon,
    Caz


     
    Old 06-11-2003, 06:44 AM   #9
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    Zip,

    GOOD LUCK for tomorrow...will be thinking of you.

    Caz

     
    Old 06-13-2003, 06:28 AM   #10
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    Hi caz and czuby,

    All done,

    Stapedectomy completed yesterday at NYU Medical (great place). Surgeon said all went well (there was a semicirclular ridge of otosclerosis that had completely immobilized the oval window.

    Recovery was somewhat miserable beacause they had to remove some bone to widen my smallish canal and they snip off some outer ear cartilege to seal the prosthesis to the window. I foolishly said I had some pain and got 4 mg. morphine...NOT a pleasant drug.
    I'm hopeful of results (can't tell results through all the packing)...I will have it removed on Wednesday. But I'm hopeful of even BETTER hearing than the old stapes that's has to listen to the screetching outer world of Metropolitan New York City this last quarter decade.
    Getting home on Public Transportation at rush hour with MUCH dizziness when going up and down was a DELIGHT...LOL.

    Thanks for thinking of me.

    Czuby,
    The general anaesthesia is the way to go. I WALKED into the OR and saw a DOZEN people waiting for me. I lay down, and they fiddled an IV into me....next I knew I was in the recovery room...not even a "count down from YADA YADA). Trachea tube gives a little soreness but only for a day!



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    Old 06-20-2003, 04:26 PM   #11
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    Hi Zip,

    Have you had the packing removed now? How are things? Is there an improvement in your hearing????

    Caz

     
    Old 06-23-2003, 04:08 AM   #12
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    Hi caz,

    I'm back...sorry to keep you waiting.

    My results were spectacular beyond my fondest hopes. My hearing is superacute and I'll have audiological testing on Wednesday to get the numbers.

    There's considerable scabbing inside from the need to widen the canal to get the scope tools and several doctors inside...LOL and thery took a clipping fom the tragus (that piece that juts frim the face into the ear) for some cartilege to seal the prosthesis.

    When the packing was removed and I walked onto bustling First Avenue I heard 100 conversations at once and even heard hot dogs rotating on a vender's grille....I sat on the curb and cried for joy.

    By comparison my "normal" right ear is a poor second cousin to it's BIONIC double!

    Roger

    Ohh and another BIG plus, the former fire-engine tinnitus is reduced to almost negligible. I was right...the ear was hearing screetching because it was starved for sensory input.

    Now I need to find some GOOD hearing protection.

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    Old 06-23-2003, 04:33 AM   #13
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    Dear Roger

    I've just read your mail and I am thrilled about the results. You are an inspiration. Please let us know how is the audiogram. I would like to compare it to mine in order to take the big decision too.

    Enjoy your new hearing and keep in touch.

     
    Old 06-23-2003, 05:08 PM   #14
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    Roger,

    Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

    Am really pleased for you. Bet you are walking on air! So glad you had the rowlocks to go through with it after what happened before.

    Good on ya!
    Caz

     
    Old 07-03-2003, 12:02 PM   #15
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    Hi Everyone.

    Well, school is finally out (at least for the teachers and kids)and it is TIME. I had a Stapendectomy preformed on my left ear yesterday!!! I was given a local...a very STRONG local. I do not recall anything once they rolled me into the O.R.

    During the operation, my surgeon explained the stapes actully broke when he tried to remove it, however, he did not seem the least bit concerned. He simply felt that my recovery time may be extended for a day or two.

    Currently, I am a bit off balance, especially walking up and down stairs. Thankfully no major nausea (his nurse put a Dramamine patch on me before we even started) amd I hope it stays that way. Unfortunately I will not be permitted participate i any physical activites for several more weeks(yikes)which REALLY has me bummed out. But at least I know I will be allowed to start again in the not-to-distant future and I will be able to hear things at the Dojang, at school, and at home much better. I am so excited.


    In about a week he will remove the packing and we'll see (actually hear) what the results were. At that time, I will also begin taking Florical tablets, which consist of Calcium,Floride, and Sodium Fluride.( can't wait to see what THAT does to my stomach).

    I have enjoyed reading all your comments and look forward to reading about all you experiences.

    CA

     
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