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    Old 05-17-2003, 04:06 PM   #1
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    Question L4/L5 herniation and the penis

    I already saw the link that showed the nerves and what they affect, but I want to know if any of the guys out here have experienced any wierd sensations or loss there of in the penis with a L4/L5 herniation.



    ------------------[list=a] [*] 27 years old computer programmer[*] April 1996 - Bulging L4/L5 disk from car accident.[*] October 2002 - Low back pain and pain in left leg.[*] October 2002 - See chiropractor with minimal relief.[*] November 2002 - MRI shows L4/L5 moderate disk herniation (left and center)[*] January 2003 - Try PT for a couple of weeks some relief until chiropractor visit.[*] February 2003 - Chiropractor does traction, resulting in first instance of numbness in foot.[*] Late February 2003 and still going - New Physical Therapist, not much relief yet...[*] March 2003 - Very light pain in right leg in addition to left, EMG suggests nerve damage/irritaion in both legs.[*] March 2003 - Second MRI shows L4/L5 moderate disk herniation (left and center), slightly larger[*] April 3, 2003 - Epidural Injection, slight pain relief, more tingling in left leg and right.[*] April 17, 2003 - Going for second epidural injection.[*]April 22,2003 - Feeling some relief, started doing exersices from the McKenzie book.[*] May 1, 2003 - Third epidural injection[*] May 7, 2003 - Still in pain, less numbness and tingling[/list=a]

     
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    Old 05-19-2003, 10:47 AM   #2
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    If you are a dude, and have a L4/L5 herniation I would appreciate you input on this even if you don't have symptoms.

    Thanks

     
    Old 05-19-2003, 12:56 PM   #3
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    Hey Johnny,

    I do have a loss of sensation in that region. But mine is from when I broke my back in 1985 from a climbing accident. At first I had no feeling there at all. Then we they did my 3rd surgery after i had some of the feeling there return. I can't say that I can functional normally there but w/the help of viagra me and my wife can have normal relations again. I would say that if you are haveing a problem there that you need to be very candid with your surgeon. The reason is that from a herniated disc, this shouldn't happen. Or a least it is not very common to happen. There culd be something worse going on than the hernated disc. I know how embarrassing this issue can be. I'm 40 yrs old and that just shouldn't happen to us younger men. but unfortunatly it doe's. So don't hesitate to tlak to your Doc. If it is a result from you herniated disc I'm sure that they can resolve this thru surgery. I hope that this helps sokmewhat...

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    Old 05-21-2003, 08:48 PM   #4
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    JohnnyBravo,
    I remember reading your post the other day and just happened to run across this tonight while doing some research on my back. I'm not a guy so I can't help you in that field too much but maybe this will answer some questions for you.


    Extractions: First of all, let me thank you for the wonderful service you provide. My question is somewhat of a personal nature concerning effects of a herniated L5-S1 disk. How common are erectile difficulties with this particular injury? I find that I have lost sensation in the *****. Will surgery to correct the disk restore full nerve function? As you can imagine, this has me quite concerned. All my neurosurgeon will say is 'Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't" Thank you again for your opinion. Answer Posted By: CCF Neuro[P] MD, RPS on Wednesday, January 12, 2000 Sorry to hear about your disc problem. What you are asking about is likely not due to L5/S1 herniation. The herniation would have to be pretty severe with compromise of the cord itself. The area in question is in S3/S4 if I remember correctly. The sensation and erection problem may be located somewhere else, either athroscleroisis, or sympathetic and parasympathetic derived nerves from the sacral plexus. If you have long term diabetes or use alcohol chronically these might feed into the problem. I would see a good neurologist or urologist.

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    Old 11-28-2003, 07:21 AM   #5
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    Re: L4/L5 herniation and the penis

    Annular tear L4/5 (grade IV or V tear),...intially numbness and erectile issues only appeared with acute lower back pain episodes, slowly returning to normal over following days...then L4/5 area pain increased permanently (presumably disc tore more?) and genital symptoms became chronic immediately, now for 8 months. Basically remains unexplained. There is a bicycle in my rather convoluted history, but it had been gone for months before the permanent increase in symptoms...

    L4/5 area is greatly reduced as a pain generator now (avg maybe a 2, down from 4-5 when symptoms became chronic), but genital symptoms are pretty unch. It is a mystery, to say the least. DIdn't have any pain in pudendal nerve distribution until last couple of weeks, and am not certain it is the same origin as the numbness.

    FWIW, lumbar, sacral/pelvic MRI's never showed ANY nerve impingement.

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    Old 11-29-2003, 02:17 PM   #6
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    Re: L4/L5 herniation and the penis

    JohnnyBravo,

    I had a rupture at L4/L5, and a microdiscectomy. The drugs are the things that have caused me problems. When I take narcotics, I have trouble urinating, plus have loss of sensation. When I don't take medications, I don't seem to have any problems.

    Hope you get everything worked out,
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    Old 11-29-2003, 04:19 PM   #7
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    JB--I started a related thread a few weeks ago on this (see under keyword "hoozits"). For me, it's not numbness but occasional pain right at the base of my "friend." I've learned this is not uncommon for upper lumbar problems (L 1-2 and L 2-3) and some of the sacral nerves. I believe it less common for 4-5, but the "wiring" and relationships can be complicated. Are you sure you don't have any problems in the upper lumbar area?

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    Old 12-14-2003, 07:29 PM   #8
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    Re: L4/L5 herniation and the penis

    A couple of comments; in my particular case, I have recently found flexion exercises to do a LOT for restoring sensation. There is a posterior bulge in the l4/5 which does make an impression on the thecal sac, and given that the symptoms are worst after extension of the lumbar spine, this may in fact be a spinal compression issue. It is an idea, at any rate. Autonomic function hasn't returned much, but it has only been 5 days since I started trying flexion exercises.

     
    Old 12-14-2003, 08:16 PM   #9
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    Woofdog--What sorts of flexion exercises do you do? As you probably know, there is a lot of stuff about extension exercises (McKenzie) being useful to some people, but probably not if there is stenosis, which it sounds like is the case for you.

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    Old 12-16-2003, 10:01 AM   #10
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    Re: L4/L5 herniation and the penis

    Woof=What you write makes sense to me. From what I've read, flexion is often the "natural position" that people with stenosis (even at just one level, caused by a bulge) assume. The classic example is bending over/leaning against a shopping cart while you move it around a store. Putting that arch in your back, if you have a central bulge, opens it up some. The other side of this, though, is that flexion can also but more pressure on the side of the disk that's bulging out, _conceivably_ encouraging it to bulge a little more. That's why extension exercises (MacKenzie, etc.) useful for _some_ people.

    In any case, as you have done, it seems like we often have to "invent" our own PT. I do know that the the "literature" includes instances of functional genital problems specifically related to stenosis. So that, in itself, shouldn' surprise a neurologist. I'm surprised it seems to!!

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