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    Old 09-30-2008, 02:40 AM   #1
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    Oh my neck hurts, 3 herniations

    Hi, I'm new here. I injured myself exactly two weeks ago while playing with my children. I crashed into my 7 year old while hubby and I were playing monster. I was chasing her pretty fast on my hands and knees, then hubby comes around the corner trying to scare her. She turned around and we crashed full force. My head hit her straight on and I heard a crunch then fell to the floor. I went to the doctors and the x-ray showed subluxation. She sent me home with pain pills and I headed off to Disney World for a week the day after. We planned this vacation for 8 months and we had already paid for everything.

    I come home and have my MRI done the day after. The results show that I herniated C4-C5, C5-C6, and C6-C7. C5-C6 is the worst of them all and is pressing against my spinal cord. I do not know how to read the MRI report, but there were a few other things wrong with C5-C6. They immediatly sent me to the Neurosurgeon the day after I recieved the results of the MRI. The neurosurgeon gave me the Medrol pack and told me to try thearpy 3 times a week for 4 weeks and wanted me to schedule another appointment with him next month. He also said if I damage it any further that I could end up being a quad. I'm thinking he is just trying to scare me a little. Although, he would not answer my question to what my limitations are as far as exercise, housework, and caring for the children(he says he is a surgeon, not a physician). He also stated that there is only a 30-40% chance of this healing on it's own with rest and thearpy.

    I'm a very active person, I run 36 miles a week, I bike and swim. I'm having a very hard time not being able to run the past two weeks. I made an appointment with another doctor this coming Wednsday to find out what my limitations are. The pain is driving me beyond crazy and at times is unbearable. I basically lay on the heating pad most of the day and half of the night.

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    Old 09-30-2008, 09:38 AM   #2
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    Re: Oh my neck hurts, 3 herniations

    Nicole, My gosh that has got to be darn painful. Did this surgeon give you anything for pain?
    I have recently went for an MRI of the C&T looking for herniations (no results yet) I know the pain can be out of this world & that is on pain meds.
    I cant tell you what to do but will tell you what I have heard if PT makes this more painful stop & call your surgeon. My last Pt who was very good told some discomfort is fine but increased pain after PT visits is not. A good PT will stop & call what ever doctor ordered it. That is exactly what my PT did, I begged here to just hold off & continue which she agreed for short time, but then come out & said she was really concerned & had to stop pt & let the surgeon know how painful it was for me & that she could not see any improvement.
    If you can will you please share some of what you are experiancing with the herniations, like does is effect your arms, neck, back & so on. I have been trying to do some research on symptoms & would be so appreciative.

    Be careful & dont push yourself or over do it. Although you think your surgeon may be trying to put some fear in you, you never really know. good luck & I hope all goes well, I am so sorry about your vacation but there will be others & you want to be out of this pain & able to enjoy yourself. God bless, Sammy

     
    Old 09-30-2008, 09:45 AM   #3
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    Hey Nicole.. curious who the neurosurgeon is. Feel free to e-mail me at REMOVED if you don't want to post the name here. (I see you're in Minnesota, as am I).

    I had back and neck pain for several months and finally went in to have my shoulder checked out two months ago -- thought maybe it was a rotator cuff issue. Long story short, turned out to be herniated discs - specifically, c3/4, c4/5 and c5/6. Only c5/6 was a significant herniation.. and it was large. Tingling/numbness down into my index and thumb in my left hand .. .had nerve compression. In addition, the disc was pushing big time on my spinal cord. I think the quad comment from your NS is typical.. .its true, if you got bang up pretty good, you're at additional risk because the disc is already pushing on the spinal cord. Don't mean you should be terrified, but just know that you are at some additional risk.

    I did try therapy for a bit.. including exercises, traction, etc... it helped a little bit for a day or two.. but it was quickly clear I wouldn't be relieved of pain and other symptoms via the PT...

    So, I had ACDF of c5/6 on September 20. You can view another post where I've updated the board with some of my experience/progress.. there's a couple of others who recently had ACDF this month also on the board.

    I'm 33, not as active as you (i.e., I do run, but more like 5 miles a week vs. 36!!), but I do expect to run, do resistance training, etc. in the future. For now, I'm just 10 days past surgery and have a soft collar on until Oct 16.. shortly thereafter I will probably start PT for about 12 visits.

    I think your path makes sense for now - in a few weeks you should know if therapy is a potential answer. My guess is you'll want to consider ACDF. It doesn't hurt to talk to a couple of surgeons, and definitely ask around on this board.

    Best of luck,

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    Old 09-30-2008, 11:37 AM   #4
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    Re: Oh my neck hurts, 3 herniations

    Disc herniations that are affecting the spinal cord can indeed get worse and cause permanent damage. I would reccomend you see another Neurosurgeon or Orthopedic Spine surgeon possibly before doing physical therapy. If the herniation is bad enough - it's possible that no amount of PT will help and surgery may be necessary.

    Listen to your body. You will have to cut back on your work outs if you want to have an optimal healing. The neck is very "delicate" in some ways and you have to take care of the problems early to avoid permanent or worse damage.

    Any surgeon that says he can't tell you what your restrictions would be - well that would scare me a bit. First a Surgeon is a Physician. But he's not a Physical Therapist (if that's what he meant). Most surgeons would have a general idea what you should/should not do - but if he just wanted the physical therapist to set your limitations I guess I could understand. Still sounds a bit odd.
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    Old 10-24-2008, 03:37 PM   #5
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    i have a herniated c3-4 and a bulging c6-7. a specialist should reccomend P.T. first, then injections and lastly surgery. my right arm was tingling from a herniation and i thought it was my shoulder went golfing in florida and aggravated it. i had headaches, pain, and used one pillow for a long time. i went to physical therapy which took the arm tingling away and it took about a year to for the pain and headaches to subside. be patient, you don't want to have surgery on your neck if you don't need it. do your P.T. everyday and continue to do so after you are finished. furthermore, doctors are improving their care for cervical injuries with artificial discs instead of fushion. wait as long as you can. you should get better.

     
    Old 10-24-2008, 08:00 PM   #6
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    PT made the sympoms worse. The first day after PT I started to have neck jerking/tics and they are constant(they are getting worse as time goes on). The NS does not want to wait this out and said this needs to be taken care of ASAP. My symptoms are getting much worse. I have a migraines about every three days or sooner. The pain of the migraines alone are absolutely horrible. I'm not sure how I survive them. My hubby had to stay home from work this morning to send the kids off to school because I had such a bad migraine I couldn't move an inch. I go for the injection next week, I'm not sure how I'm going to stay still due to the neck jerking. I will have valium to calm me down, but muscle relaxers do not even help or calm the neck jerking. I don't want to be on oxycodone much longer either, it's a very powerful drug, but it's the only thing right now that will bring my pain down to a 4 or 5 most days. I'm really going stir crazy too, I'm so limited of my activities and I can't even walk to the mail box without pain shooting down my arm. I'm also losing my stregnth in my right arm. I'm ready for this to be taken care of.

     
    Old 10-24-2008, 08:04 PM   #7
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    Oh, I forgot to mention. Since the first post I went to a sports medicine doctor for two weeks, then he sent me to a new NS.

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    Old 10-25-2008, 12:51 PM   #8
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    Re: Oh my neck hurts, 3 herniations

    my friend has the same problems. injections helped him.

     
    Old 10-25-2008, 01:28 PM   #9
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    jpatt, that is good the injections helped. I'm really hoping the injections will help me too. I'm a bit nervous about the pain of the injection.

     
    Old 10-25-2008, 02:06 PM   #10
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    Wow, that must hurt. Try ice packs alternated with, or in place of, the heating pad. I have found that a moist heating pad works better than a regular one, but they are very expensive (note -- DO NOT wet down your heating pad for moist heat; moist heating pads are special types of heating pads that do not require water). The physical therapist can apply moist heat, too.

    I think that either the physical therapist or a different doctor could suggest activity limits, but it probably won't hurt to limit activities the way you do after neck surgery -- not lifting anything over 5 pounds for 3 weeks, walk but don't run, and avoid driving or even riding in the car very much, until your neck starts feeling better (it's hard to turn your neck when it hurts, and thus hard to drive).

    Sitting very long at the computer is often painful, due to the posture of your neck, and certain other activities are also hard on your neck, so if your neck hurts worse when doing certain things, don't do it or at least change your posture so that you're not leaning forward or looking down.

    These types of limitations protect your neck from damage and it probably wouldn't hurt anything to limit these things for the first few weeks after such an injury. Not riding any rides at Disney World would have been a good idea, but it's too late for that.

    Also it seems as though a neck brace (cervical collar) might be helpful to wear for a while, though the longer you wear one, the weaker your neck muscles will become, so don't get dependent on it. You can also get special pillows that are more comfortable when your neck hurts.

    You may be able to buy a cervical collar at the pharmacy without a prescription, and try it, but it's best to ask your doctor if they think it might help. I'm surprised personally that you weren't given one when you got your MRI results, but you didn't mention getting one. That might be my own first question to a doctor.

    My problem wasn't with herniated discs...my discs degenerated and went south, crushing nerves and spinal cord, but I know how bad the pain can be. But otherwise I don't know too much about having multiple herniated discs, except that neck problems usually cause arm and hand pain, not just neck pain. Neck problems can cause all sorts of weird things, in fact.

    I did almost become paralyzed due to my neck problems, so it's not just an idle warning for your doctor to tell you that. I should think that if your symptoms suddenly get worse, start causing problems with your legs, or you develop incontinence, you need to immediately call the doctor or go to the ER.

    Apparently herniated disks do have the ability to sometimes heal, so I hope you are one of the lucky ones.

     
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    Nicole:

    My Pain Management doctor gives an IV of versed and demerol - so during the injection you feel nothing. It's considered "conscious sedation" where are you are not under general anethesia - but you don't feel anything or remember anything.
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