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    Old 06-26-2003, 08:47 AM   #1
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    I read about this on Dr. Weils site. "Gynura Nepalensis" - also called Okinawa spinach. The chat line there spoke of it quite impressively with regard to lowering cholesterol. It was asked if this is gugulipid and got mixed answers. Anyone hear of this stuff? (I guess it's a plant you can grow & it the leaves?)

     
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    Old 06-26-2003, 03:50 PM   #2
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    I've heard of it..I have the book the okinawan program..it's a book all of us westerners should take a page out of ..They live until 110 yrs of age and do not suffer from any of the ailments we suffer from..I just started eating as they do for the last 2 years so we shall see if it has any impact..Lisa

     
    Old 06-27-2003, 03:51 AM   #3
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    You can buy the extract at a health food store..I'm there.
    Guggul, also known as Commiphora Mukul and Guggulipid, is a very effective herbal medicine for controlling obesity and cholesterol. It is a well established fat burning agent all over the world and is currently becoming very popular in America, Japan, Europe and many other western nations. Guggul is a resin known to increase white blood cell counts and possess strong disinfecting properties. It has long been known to lower cholesterol and triglycerides, while maintain or improve the HDL to LDL ratio. It is one of the very first "broad spectrum drugs" with a wide therapeutic range. A broad mode of action makes this herb very helpful even in protecting against ailments such as common cold, and various skin, dental and ophthalmic infections.

    One of the most famous herbs in Ayurvedic medicine, Guggul possesses strong purifying and rejuvenating powers. People today most commonly use it to benefit from Guggul's lipid regulating and immunomodulating properties. It has been shown that Guggul can lower blood cholesterol by 14-27% and can lower triglycerides by 22-30%. The effects that Himalaya's Guggul has on the blood cholesterol levels is comparable to prescription medications but, being a natural plant extract, it is a far superior and much safer product. Guggul works on the liver by increasing the metabolism (or break down) of the bad cholesterol known as LDL Cholesterol. After taking the product for 4 to 12 weeks, total cholesterol levels can drop, triglyceride levels can drop and an increase in HDL (the good cholesterol) of approximately 16% can occur. Its benenfits as a weight-loss and fat burning agent have been well researched and documented in several studies..I'm trying it..Lisa



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    Old 06-27-2003, 05:50 AM   #4
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    Moxie,

    I would like to try it for cholesterol (although my levels are pretty good right now) but don't want to lose weight. I already have a very high metabolism. You mentioned relationship to the liver and that interests me as my liver tends to be "tight", in Chinese terms, since I had my GB removed, which causes all kinds of problems. I will try to research further its relationship to the liver, unless you have more
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    What has been your experience with it thus far?

    P.

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    Are you familar with Dr. D Adamo's blood typing method of eating? You eat according to your specific blood type. Asian people tend to be B type blood (I think, can't remember). The point I'm trying to make is that that particular way of eating - The Okinawan program - may be well-suited to that group of people but not for me or you (unless you are also of that blood type).

    If you aren't familar with this philosophy you might find it interesting. I, for instance, an O blood type person never did well on macrobiotics or other non-meat eating regimes. According to this system, O people, the oldest human type, have strong digestive and metabolizing systems and need meat (and very few grains) to thrive. There is a lot of other information about each type as well. This is just a bit of information I thought I'd pass on.

     
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    Peregrine,

    you raised some good points but I'm not too sure about the blood type diet I never liked what I read about it and when i tried it i felt sluggish. I am O-neg and I eat what they (okinawans) eat. I eat alot of salmon, (atlantic and norweigian, not farm raised)sushi, miso, and lean pork and chicken..I do sometimes have lean cuts of red meat but not often. I eat a ton of veggies and fruit and up to 15 cups of non cafeine green tea in concentrate form per day. I try to stay away from white flour but I slip every now and again (I'm italian) I do feel terrific and I am told constantly that i look 15 years younger than I am. I workout 6 days a week and drink water all day long.

    I am worried too about the liver concerns too because I was told I may have a fatty liver but further liver tests proved that my liver is functioning normal. I do drink from time to time but never in excess. It is hard to believe I have to take BP meds and cholesterol meds at all but I do.

    I am stellar in my eating and workout habits so go figure..maybe this I should have been doing for all my life I guess..please let me know if you read any negative things about the liver with this gugull and I will post too if i find something..Lisa

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    Old 06-27-2003, 06:51 AM   #7
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    Thanks for all the responses. I'm interested in trying this. In your opinions, is this an impactive enough suppliment that it should be discussed with a doc before using? Also, how much is recommended?

     
    Old 06-27-2003, 07:21 AM   #8
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    MV,

    You can ask your doctor but my experience asking my docs about supplements is that they know nothing at all about them. If they did I'm sure they would still push the drug market first. They back the drug reps up all the time due to kickbacks from the drug companies. However if you went to a specialist like a GI man he would have more knowledge of supplements and alternative meds....Good topic thanks for the original post, Lisa

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    Old 06-29-2003, 02:27 PM   #9
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    Got the guggul at Whole Foods Store..started taking it yesterday..only thing is when i bought the darn stuff i did not have my reading glasses and here i find out it has niacin and vitamin c and chromium in it..i hate it when they do that just give me what i asked for guggul and that's it..i will keep u posted, Lisa

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