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shucks 07-12-2003 08:30 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Audrey-B:
[b]I'm really confused about HPV due to the fact that after an unclear pap smear i was referred to a gyn and he said all was ok, appart from the fact that he found HPV. I got kind of scared and confused and he said that it's unclear where exactly HPV comes from as not all cases are as a result of an STD. He said HPV has been found in people who have never had sex and you can get it easily from a public swimming pool. He then told me that it's not dangerous, didn't give me any medication and told me to have regular pap smear every 6 months incase they became cancerous.

I followed his advice for a couple of years and my pap smears were clear, but since then i've been to gyn's if i've had unclear pap smears and nobody has ever found me to have HPV and they've done internal exams where you are hooked up to one of those monitors and you can see what he examing internally and everything comes up healthy.

I've been with my husband for 9 years and neither of us has an STD, i've also had a laparoscopy were the gyn took photo's of my internal organs (i had difficulty falling preganant) and he said internally everything was clear and healthy and 100% perfect. Some how i'd think that after 9 and a bit years my husband would have seen signs of HPV i had it and he in turn got it off me? and surely other docotrs would have seen it internally if the first gyn saw it?

So basically after reading about various people's experiences with HPV on these boards, i'm kind of confused about the whole HPV issue. How can one medical expert say you only get HPV from sexual contact, while others can say otherwise? [/b][/quote]

first know that there is 100 different strands of HPV...it is VERY common. Yes people can get HPV without having sex...BUT you said this "easily from a public swimming pool" Actually this is rare very rare..maybe a half percent....compared that to a tolit well you will catch it from a toilet faster than you will a swimming pool...however it is even rare to get it from a toilet. In order for you to catch it from a toilet is a person goes in there goes to the restroom and IMMEDATLY go in there right after...the likely hood is slim...now a person can fondle someone and then touch themselves and get it...a mother who has HPV can pass it to their child, but this is rare too.

HPV that is STD is when it is on the genitals...the HPV that is on the uterus is a different strand, but that is STD...now warts that are on the hands/feet is NOT an STD but still HPV.


What we are talking about HERE is HPV that is STD in the genital/upper thigh area and uterus...and HPV of the mouth which too is STD...

As I said before....it is very HARD to exame a male for HPV....sometimes the warts are NOT external. This is why 80% of the population has HPV because they dont even know it. One doesnt have to carry the symtoms to have it...warts is when it is contagious. As I said about your husband it is too hard...to test a male...they have to be external to see if he has it...it could be in the cannel of the penis...

I had my wart removed and I have been wart free for over a year...you have been clean for 9 years you say? well that is good...


shucks 07-12-2003 08:41 PM

[quote]Originally posted by collegegrl:
[b]thanks shucks. no i'm not having sex now. that's the only time in a while after i found all this out---except for one oral experience which again, wasnt smart. but i'm going to get tested and all that. those bumps are gone in my mouth except my throat still hurts sometimes so i dont know what they are. do u know if they were warts if they wouldve stayed longer than a week and a half? i'm gonna go get tested for everything with a friend. i'm terrified but i'm glad i've decided to change my life 'cuz this is way too scary. if i get a positive for hiv i'm really scared of my response to it tho 'cuz i dont think i could live with it and be happy. i've only had 3 uprotected sex experiences but they were all with guys who i'm sure get around. so i'm scared but i'm gonna go anyways so these symptoms i keep "having" eitehr go away or something. it sounds like u're living with the hpv thing pretty well and it makes me feel better. i hope things are going well for u. thanks alot for the support.[/b][/quote]


I cant say if a week and half is a bit fast..You would think they would stay longer, but I also know that it depends on the individual. Mouth tends to heal fast. I am glad you are going to get checked out...I know the scariest feeling is finding out the results, but what ever they turn out to be...you will be ok...Right now just do what you have to do and NOT think about the results until they come in. I know it wont be easy and NOT think about it...but by thinking about it wont do any good except stress out and weaken the immune sytem. I really hope you dont have HIV (I dont think you do...I think since you caught HPV your mind is in over drive...but actually that is good to because it motivated you 1) change your lifestyle 2) getting tested so you will be able to know what to do)....

I dont know if you believe in God or anything...but I do...so I will have you in my prayers so you can have "peace" with what ever comes....

You will be ok no matter what....you have learned the most valuable lesson in life and that is YOU....

The best thing out of this is that you found yourself more important that you changed your old ways...for the BETTER.

and you are more than welcome...


Audrey-B 07-13-2003 04:44 AM

Thanks so much for your reply shucks.....I'm not sure if i've been 'clean' for 9 years, just no other specialist has mentioned any HPV findings, just the one doctor and i've not taken any medication and he didn't say anything about protected sex etc. Actually he didn't give much information at all and as i'd never heard of HPV in my entire life up till that stage, i didn't think it was such and issue. Just to be on the safe side i may mention it at my next doctors visit as i am very curious now. Thanks again :)

shucks 07-13-2003 09:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Audrey-B:
[b]Thanks so much for your reply shucks.....I'm not sure if i've been 'clean' for 9 years, just no other specialist has mentioned any HPV findings, just the one doctor and i've not taken any medication and he didn't say anything about protected sex etc. Actually he didn't give much information at all and as i'd never heard of HPV in my entire life up till that stage, i didn't think it was such and issue. Just to be on the safe side i may mention it at my next doctors visit as i am very curious now. Thanks again :)[/b][/quote]


Usually when you go for regular checkups doctors are not really looking for HPV...You really have to ask them to check for it...because they can be so small you cant see with the naked eye...and this is why doctors sometimes overlooks them...but then again they dont really look for it..in order for them to spot it...is either it is noticable...or an abnormal papsmear with more testing.

"didn't say anything about protected sex etc."

Hmm...well it could be that he thought you were aware of HPV...some doctors are ignorant. Since THEY know they assume that YOU know what to do.

I think that would be a wise choice....in asking MORE about it to your doctor...(hopefully this is NOT the same doctor that dignosed you with HPV???)...to me even if he assumed that you know what HPV is he should have given you litature about it...to me that sounds unprofessional.

Now thinking that you are going to go to a different doctor from the one you went to who dignosed you...tell him/her that a while back you were dignosed with HPV and that the doctor did NOT inform you with anything to get you educated on it...and that you want information on HPV ask for litature so you can read up on it...

You always have to keep in mind that doctors is NOT miracle workers they are only "praticing"...

Sorry I vented out a bit...but ignorance (espeically the ingornace of the doctor) always gets me going...

It wouldnt hurt to get tested again...It would be amazing to know what the out come turns out...

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collegegrl 07-13-2003 05:47 PM

thanks for the prayers. i do believe in God and that's been my source of hope right now. probably the only reason i'm sane actually. and i'm kinda excited in making this change for the better. but i was wondering about how serious of a connection hpv has with cancer. i work out alot and eat really healthy, except i drink. i also hardly ever get sick. but i do have a history of cancer in my family. do u know any stats on how many people usually get cancer with it? and if i dont have the warts is that a less likely chance i'll get cancer or does it really only rely on the fact that the virus will still be in my system? and also is the infected part just where the warts are? i mean as far as being contagious. sorry for the questions but i appreciate the responses a ton and u seem to know your stuff. :P

shucks 07-13-2003 06:39 PM

[quote]Originally posted by collegegrl:
[b]thanks for the prayers. i do believe in God and that's been my source of hope right now. probably the only reason i'm sane actually. and i'm kinda excited in making this change for the better. but i was wondering about how serious of a connection hpv has with cancer. i work out alot and eat really healthy, except i drink. i also hardly ever get sick. but i do have a history of cancer in my family. do u know any stats on how many people usually get cancer with it? and if i dont have the warts is that a less likely chance i'll get cancer or does it really only rely on the fact that the virus will still be in my system? and also is the infected part just where the warts are? i mean as far as being contagious. sorry for the questions but i appreciate the responses a ton and u seem to know your stuff. :P[/b][/quote]


Well for females you can either get colon cancer (in the rear) or cancer of the cervix....the chances of getting is low (I dont know the exact stats, but I will try to find out for you). Since your family has a history of cancer find out WHAT KIND of cancer they have....

If you are wart free your chances of getting cancer is slim. You just dont want it to be left untreated..

Since you rarely get sick that just shows that your immune system is good...on the right track...however you dont want to weaken it. I know some people they drink for pleasure it something for one to look forward to after a hard days job, but you should know drinking and smokeing is a high factor of weakening the immune system. I dont know how much you drink, but if you cant stop drinking (I advice it) at least lower the limit that you do...yeah one beer or a glass of wine is actually good for you...but too much is bad for you...hard liquor is worse. I dont want you to be deprived of something you like or enjoy doing...so maybe descipline in lowering the amount you drink..

I dont mind the questions at all...I am actually glad that I am able to help out...I know how it is...I know EXACTLY what you are going through...THOUSANDS of people know EXACTLY what you and myself are going through...it does have comfort to know we are NOT alone. :)


collegegrl 07-16-2003 02:18 PM

thanks shucks. i made an appointment to get the warts removed in a week. i've had them for about a month and a half. do u think that's a long time for them to be left untreated? and i'm sooo broke, do u think it's possible to get them taken care of in one acid treatment? they could probably be cut off but i've heard that acid is the only true way to be rid of them for sure--like maybe there could be tiny ones i dont know about.

shucks 07-16-2003 03:51 PM

[quote]Originally posted by collegegrl:
[b]thanks shucks. i made an appointment to get the warts removed in a week. i've had them for about a month and a half. do u think that's a long time for them to be left untreated? and i'm sooo broke, do u think it's possible to get them taken care of in one acid treatment? they could probably be cut off but i've heard that acid is the only true way to be rid of them for sure--like maybe there could be tiny ones i dont know about.[/b][/quote]

I think you are fine in the time frame (1 month and a half) I believe you are safe...it is good though to get them removed as soon as they appear which you are doing. I had my singluar one removed over a year ago by the doctor cutting it and it has not come back (well not yet anyways)...now as far as having one treatment done and that is it...well I am sure there are cases that only needs one treatment, but with all that I have read and been told about it...it usually for a success is 3-6 treatments....now to make sure they even get the tiny ones they will put a vinigar I believe (that is what they did to me to make sure that there wasnt any other than that one I had) it is actually up to you and your doctor of what kind of treatment to be used. It will be more than likely the acid treatment in your case...but please dont get frusterated if if you have to go back 3, 4, or even 6 times...I know even KNOWING that ahead of time is frusterating the way it is...but if you just focus in getting them removed and being consitant...well in order to do that is to have self discipline.

I know you are scard...you have NO idea what to expect that is the most scariest feeling of all...I know. I told you what it will feel like (before they decided to just cut my wart off they did do the acid thing...but then they decided to cut off because it was long)...you will feel the liquid and then slowly you will feel a burn sensation...you are suppose to leave it on for 20 minutes that is enough time for you to get home and after that you can take a soak bath...to cool it off. The ONLY way I can explain it is have you ever had too much acid food and when you urinate it burns like hell...it doesnt make you cry but maybe a little watery eyed...not bad...and by that point it will be time for you to get your soak bath.. well that is the closest as i can discribe it...it is very uncomfortable...however it is something you can deal with. (I just had a thought....maybe they can numb you so you wont feel any burning? ask them about it)..I know some people may think I shouldnt tell you what it feels like, but I believe that being honest so you can KNOW what to expect...you can at least be prepared without having a lost feeling of what to expect...and also will keep you focus in the purpose of doing this and the importance of this proceedure.

Everything will be fine trust me...

Just think it will be easier after the first treatment and who knows you may be one of the people who would ONLY need one treatment...but in most cases it is usually more than one.

BUT WHAT EVER YOU DO...DONT STOP.

May the Lord give you many blessing. Be strong...for YOU....I know you will be able to climb this obsticle...just have your mind focus....

collegegrl 07-22-2003 02:43 PM

thanks for everything shucks. i went and got my first treatment today and it wasnt nearly as bad as i thought. it just burned for like a minute max and then she cooled 'em and i feel totally fine. mine told me not to take a shower for like 4 hours or so so that that acid could do its thing but that's ok because it doesnt hurt or anything now. i have to go back probably 2 more times but i feel SO much better because she told me she does tons of these and its so incredibly common-just no one talks about it. i really think its all gonna be ok now and i'm not stressing anymore. really glad this changed me...kind of scared actually if this hadnt happened if anything would have made me think:P sorry about all of the questions!! thanks for alll of the info and prayers and all that! it was so helpful! ;)

shucks 07-23-2003 06:05 AM

[quote]Originally posted by collegegrl:
[b]thanks for everything shucks. i went and got my first treatment today and it wasnt nearly as bad as i thought. it just burned for like a minute max and then she cooled 'em and i feel totally fine. mine told me not to take a shower for like 4 hours or so so that that acid could do its thing but that's ok because it doesnt hurt or anything now. i have to go back probably 2 more times but i feel SO much better because she told me she does tons of these and its so incredibly common-just no one talks about it. i really think its all gonna be ok now and i'm not stressing anymore. really glad this changed me...kind of scared actually if this hadnt happened if anything would have made me think:P sorry about all of the questions!! thanks for all of the info and prayers and all that! it was so helpful! ;)[/b][/quote]


That is good they have so many types of acid treatments...some say leave it on for 20 minutes...and others an hour and in your case 4 hours.
Yes it is VERY common about 80% of the population has it...and alot dont even know it (mainly men). It is safe to say it is like a common cold.
I am so glad that you went through it...and I am glad that the treatment went well...see now you will know what to expect so it will be easier for you when you go again. Just be consistant...even if you have to go 6 times for a succesfful outcome just look at it as if it was another "check-up" no big thing really. Did you know that a GYN treats more HPV patients than pregnant women? it is amazing isnt it?

You will be just fine...and you the "scare" feeling that you got is good...because that was an eye opener because it did soemthing positive and that is to change you life for the better. Remember you are very important person and you deserve a healthy life...do what is right for YOU and NOT for someone elese.

I am glad I was here to help you through...I am so happy that the stress knocked off...believe me I was the same way...until I educated myself on this subject.

Take care and let the Good Lord give you many blessings.

worrywort 07-23-2003 12:18 PM

just to let everyone know especially woman. My boyfriend(now my husband) had h.p.v genital warts and he showed it to me and it looked like nothing! You can hardly see them! I have h.p.v now but have no warts I have had a abnormal pap it is called dysplasia and it can cause cancer, They had to freeze my cervix and it isn't much fun. I don't have any regrets because I love this guy before I found out and I still love him and we were just married!!! I had him checked out before we became sexually active because of his past partner, so I knew all along about his h.p.v before we had sex. It is just a good thing to go and get checked before you have sex and always use protection!! Good luck to all of you.

worrywort 07-23-2003 12:24 PM

Oh by the way, It has been 2 years and the warts have not returned on my husband!!!!

LaFae 08-06-2003 09:14 PM

OK, I know I have genital warts, I'm going to my first gyno ever on monday. has anyone else ever been treated? I really want to know what it's going to be like.

shucks 08-07-2003 06:03 AM

LaFae

If you read this thread you will see what it will be like.

It is nothing bad...not at all. Another person asked what it will be like I told her and she went and get it done, and gave us a report that it went well.

I will give you a brief on what it will be like.

There is different methods in removing warts. More than likely they will use and acid solution that they will apply only on the warts. You will feel a slight cool feeling a little bit and then a tingling and then a little burning....it is bearable feeling, but uncomfortable....but when it gets to that stage it will be time to take a soak bath. It doesnt hurt where it make you feel that you want to cry...no...it feels more like if you ate too much acid food and when you urinate you feel that burning sensation...well that is the closest what it feels like. Trust me it isnt bad...the worst thing is that you are going for the first time and you dont know what to expect so you are probably thinking the worst. Now you will go more than once...you will more than likely go 4-6 times...(maybe even more)...but after your first treatment and realize it isnt THAT bad then you will be able to hang...what ever you do though since you are getting them treated do NOT stop until they are gone.....

I had the acid treatment but it didnt work because the singluar wart that I had was TOO big in length....so what they did to me after that is just cut it off...and that did NOT hurt a bit...the only thing I felt was the needle when they numbe me and that didnt hurt either.....the only thing that did bother me was for a few days it was like an open sore and where it was (on the anus...strange because I never had sex in THAT department before) made it uncomfortable when I went to the bathroom I had to be careful...but it healed quickly.

Just do not worry...just relax.....the first time is always the worst because you dont know what to expect....but it isnt as bad as you might think....

Red Bean 08-07-2003 08:16 AM

shucks,

I'm going to see my doctor today. I actually had one more question - do I need to see a gyno for all this or can it be my regular practitioner?

I'm just going to go there and ask to get tested for everything, to be on the safe side.

Thanks!


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