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    Old 03-26-2005, 09:06 AM   #1
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    Anyone consider not getting shots for their babies?

    Has anyone ever considered this? I have been reading up on these and the results of shots is horrible....they are leading sids as the death of some kids and alot of them that are diagnosed with that have had their shots within 2 weeks prior to death.......this scares me...macy had her shots thrusday and i think if i had known then what i know now i may not have let them give them to her, now i am going to sit around and worry that one nite i put her down she might not wake up. I have 2 other kids 15 and 11 and i didnt know any of this with them and never worried about shots always thought it was a part of life, now im beginning to wonder.

     
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    Old 03-26-2005, 07:49 PM   #2
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    Re: Anyone consider not getting shots for their babies?

    Hi Confused,

    I think all babies should have their shots, its really important for their health. My daughter is 7 months old and like you, I was terrified of the fear of sids / shots, but when I was reading up on the information on the shots, I discovered that all babies under the age of 2 are given shots with the dead virus. I could deal with that!!! As long as they're not injecting the babies with live virus's I dont see what there is to worry about. Another way I eased my fear was to invest in the Angel Care monitor. It is soooo wonderful. Its placed under the baby's mattress and monitors her breathing and movements. If her breathing was to stop for 20 seconds, an alarm will sound in my room. Its also a regular monitor to where you can hear her breathing through the monitor, but I have great comfort now at night.

     
    Old 03-26-2005, 09:53 PM   #3
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    Re: Anyone consider not getting shots for their babies?

    I agree with the previous poster. Not that because my children are OK do I believe that everyone else's will be too, but for whatever its worth we have had all three of ours vaccinated and they have been fine. I honestly can also say that I do not personally know anyone whose child had a life threatening reaction to any vaccine. I know they are out there, but I don't know anyone who ever had one. We even saw a decline in ear infections when our dd received the prevnar vaccine at nine months. In my opinion the diseases which can occur in an unvaccinated child, such as diptheria, tetanus and meningitis are far worse than most reactions and severe reactions are very, very rare. Something else to keep in mind, in most states it is impossible to get a child into daycare, preschool and public or private school unless they have had all the required immunizations. I know some will argue that, but I am a public school teacher in FL and the only ways around it are either a medical exemption or a religious exemption. Nothing else in this state, and in many other states as well is accepted. If I had it to do all over again I would do the same thing.

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    Old 03-27-2005, 08:39 AM   #4
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    dear confused,
    please have your children vaccinated. you will be doing them a great disservice if you don't.

     
    Old 03-27-2005, 01:42 PM   #5
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    My son Paul was born in Jan. 1998 Paul was almost 5 when the new pneumoccoccal vaccine became available and I did discuss it with his Dr. mostly because he kept getting ear infections and I heard this vac. could help with that issue as well. Since paul was 5 and healthy my Dr, felt it was not necessary till he went to college.
    There have been a couple of posting on this subject and many Mom's are trying to decide on weather their child should get it. Please if your leaning towards not getting it. really look into it. I wish little Paul had had it. There is an extra risk of your child coming down with this deadly illness if they have any Native American ancestors.
    Little Paul at age 5&1/2 became critically ill and almost died. There was no warning before he went into shock and almost died that what he had was anything other then a ear infection or simple cold. We sent a perfectly healthy child to school. The school called to say he had a fever ,we picked him up put him on the couch gave him moltrin and called his Dr. office to get his ears checked. Before we went to the Dr's I checked on him and found him with no pulse. barely breathing, His temp had dropped to low 90's his heart,kidneys, etc. were shutting down and he was pure white and covered with little red freckles. We called 911 and they gave him CPR on the way to the hospital he was admitted into PED. intensive care with only a 10% chance of living through the night. What followed was a 2 month nightmare of surgery after surgery to save his life, arms and legs, the infection was in his blood and very resistant to antibiotics. it traveled to his eye socket on the way to his brain. his arm turned black as the infection cut off O2 to his arm.. large pockets of infection caused his testicles to swell to the size of a grapefruit and turn black. Paul was in intensive care for 2 weeks then he was placed in a ped. nursing home for 6 weeks on a pic line ( special IV that was placed in his heart to administer 6 types of antibiotic). He had become ill in May 2003 his last surgery was in Aug.2003. Paul has now had the vacs. Pneumococcal,menengitis moves fast Your child may look like they have a simple cold and be dead in less then an hour.
    Little Paul was and is a healthy child with no other health factor. Many people were shocked when he contracted it. They did many immunity test to see if he had a immunity problen. He did not. Paul only had a slight fever 102 with no other symptoms an hour before he went into shock. There was no reason to be alarmed about his symptoms. He had recently had an ear infection as did many of the children in his class. He had been treated with antibiotics and had stoped the 10 days of antibiotics on Wed. 2 days before he fell ill. You have very little to no warning on this. Paul did not throwup,did not have diarea,did not complain about a headache nothing. 6 months after Paul was ill a local 5 year old girl here in Ma. came home from school for X-mas vac. feeling yucky with a temp. of 101 her mom did all the things Mom's do. gave her a light supper,moltrin for the fever a tubby time and let her lay down. She was not as lucky as Paul , when her parents found her it was to late. They did rush her to the hospital but she died the next day. Paul was laying on the living room couch with my husband and I both in the room. he was laying quiety with the TV on. The lights were down, we were trying to be quiet not to wake him. I had just taken his temp it was slight. and had decided to give him tylenol. Because he he tends to get fever seizures we alternate moltrin and tylenol every 3 hours and we keep an extra eye on him. In the 20 miniutes or so it took me to find the tylenol and return to his side he had started the dying process. His heart,lungs,kidneys breathing were shutting down. His temp. dropped to the low 90's when i went to turn him on his side to put in the tylenol suppository I realized how cold he was and put on the light. he was white with what looked like red freckles all over his face. Alot of parents do not realize this vaccine is the one they recomend to college students because every year perfectly healty young adults die from this. I had asked Paul's Dr. about the vac. when it came out 6 months before he got sick and was told because Paul was a healthy 5 year old, not in the under 2, college age dorm group, or over 65 he did not need it. I know you think you know the signs but with this illness seeing the signs is often to late. There is treatment, When Paul was hospitalized they cultured his blood to find out which antibiotic resistant strain he had and were pumping in 6 different types of antibiotics while they waited for the results. in the day or two it took to find the correct antibiotic all they could do was put him on life support and wait as the illness spead like a fire with no way to stop it. Paul survived intact, he did not lose his limbs, or any brain function. He was one of the lucky ones. I feel I also need to comment on the possible link to autism with vaccines. Paul has Autism, was his autism caused by vaccines no. Paul had symptoms of severe Autism from birth. Vaccines in Paul's case did not cause or worsen his symptoms, matter of fact since he was diagnosed with Autism as a infant and was receiving therapy for it, by the time he was getting the questionable shots he was showing signs of improvement with his Austitic symptoms.

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    Old 03-28-2005, 05:58 PM   #6
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    Re: Anyone consider not getting shots for their babies?

    Okay....first off, I definitely think all kids should be vaccinated! The risk of them getting sick outweighs the risk of them having SIDS in my opinion so it definitely is worth having it done. Secondly....what a terrible ordeal you had to go through with your son Paul offkilter! I could barely believe what I was reading in your post! Just another demonstration of how valuable these vaccinations can be. We are so lucky that we live in a day and age when these vaccinations are even available! Can you imagine living 100 years ago when people still died of simple things like the flu!?! I thank god that I live these days and not back then! Definitely get your children vaccinated!!!

     
    Old 03-28-2005, 06:39 PM   #7
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    TAZNAZN, Thank you for your kind words. Paul is fine now but what happen to him greatly impacted everyone who knows him. His school bus driver who took him to school that day, his teacher who first realized he had a fever, his school nurse who placed the routine call to our home to tell us Paul needed to be picked up from school,Parents who heard about Paul from the dept. of Public health on Monday when their children returned to school. Everyone who had contact with Paul had to be tested and treated with the correct antibiotic. We were amazed how many of the people tested had the bacteria in their throats, noses or ears including myself. Why in Paul the bacteria spread to his blood stream we will never know. How many of the people and children who were carriers of the Bacteria would have gotten as sick as Paul if not treated we will never know.Paul's strain was antibiotic resistant to most antibiotics. Because of that we know each time we treated his ear infections it was only killing some of the bacteria. The bacteria was coming back stronger and more resistant each time, Till it exploded and almost killed him. Since receiving the vaccine in 2003 Paul has not had a single ear infection or strep throat. unfortunately Paul's story is hapening more and more as these antibiotic resistant strains are growing in number. At this time it is easier to prevent then treat these illnesses. After Paul got home I was on line searching for information on this topic and came across a memorial website created by parents who's children had died because of this infection. As I scrolled down the site reading each childs story so close to Paul's and looking at their pictures frozen in time. age 2,age 6,age 12 age 6 months,age 17. I wept. I ask only what those Parents.would ask, tell my child's story when the subjet of vaccines comes up. For many of those parents there was no decission to make. The vaccine was not there for their children. They had no choice, no protection to offer their children. Forget about 100 years ago. The vaccine that could have prevented Paul's nightmare was not around 5 years ago.

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    Old 03-29-2005, 05:06 AM   #8
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    I am so sorry to hear about what happend to your son i sat and cried as i read it. I have read so much lately on the pro's and cons's of shots and just like your story is horrible from him not getting the shot, what about all the stories online of the kids that have died from getting these so called wonderful things?? Im not trying to argue with anyone about this i just want to know that im making the right decision for my child. I could either get the shots and if something happens feel guilty for the rest of my life, or not get them and something happen and feel guilty, i just dont know which way to turn.

     
    Old 03-29-2005, 06:01 AM   #9
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    It's confusing I admit. A friend told me something which helped her decide to have her children get the shots. She said any risk from the shots occurs within a few weeks. Risk from not getting the shots last the entire life time. Remember Paul exposed an entire school to a deadly desease because he did not have the vaccine. Imagine your child had not had the vaccine and was in his class, sat next to him on the bus, had played with Paul at the park or Chucky E Cheese? Paul's classmates were lucky once Paul got sick they were treated. It just happen we had not been any where in the few days before his illness so the Dept. of Public Health were able to contain it. If your child gets the vaccine the risk are small they will have any complications ( most are mild) if your child gets one of the illnesses the vaccines are ment to prevent your child will probably die. The images of Paul's little body as he struggled to live will be with us forever. That is why we fight so hard for children to be vaccinated. When the Parents of the other children in Paul's school found out what happen to Paul, every single parent who's child had not been vaccinated got their kid vaccinated and prayed it wasn't to late. I carry some guilt I had not pushed to have Paul vaccinated before he fell ill. I knew about the new vaccine and was reasured he did not need it. Yes Paul survived but he will always carry surgery scars, and the memories of the nursing home,the pain, possible damage to his kidneys,liver,heart will always follow him. I could have prevented all of it and didn't.

    The pneumococcal bacteria has the dubious status of "number one vaccine preventable killer".

    Pneumococcal bacteria are not nice. More people die (40,000 a year die in the U.S. alone,mostly children under 5 and those over 65) from the diseases that this bacteria causes than from all vaccine preventable diseases combined.

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