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    Old 06-02-2004, 04:20 PM   #1
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    Hi all,

    New to the boards - hoping someone can offer some info.

    My husband (30) and I (28) have been married 4 years and actively ttc for about a year. Have been off the pill for almost 2 years. Have never had regular periods, anywhere from 24 to 45 day cycles. Have gone in for tests, had the semen analysis done (normal), FSH/E test (normal), pelvic ultrasound (normal except she said it didn't look like I had ovulated recently), and HSG test (normal). Am now on my first cycle of Clomid.
    I'm wondering if LH surge tests confirm that you have ovulated or if you can have an LH surge and still not actually ovulate? I did the ovulation sticks and the saliva test and they both were positive on the same day but just not sure if that really means I ovulated or if it's just circumstantial evidence.
    Also, wondering if I should be concerned about getting monitored by my doctor while on Clomid? I'm not going in at all now.
    Also, just wanted to say it is nice to read everyone's comments and questions on here - nice to know I'm not the only one going through this!


    Thanks,

    Pheena

     
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    Old 06-03-2004, 02:16 AM   #2
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    sounds like ovulation is definately it and from what i have read clomid will help for sure. my problem lays with my husband so clomid wouldn't do it for me
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    Old 06-03-2004, 10:48 AM   #3
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    Pheena,

    I am also new to this board; in fact, your post is the first one I read adn I just had to reply to you because we have a lot in common; I am 29, DH is 31 and I also got all kinds of tests done that all came back normal. My only problem; irregular cycles (ever since I first got my period); they go from 21 to 60 days.

    We tried to get pg for 2 years (stopped taking the pill) and it finally happened for us with my second IUI (clomid). We now have a wonderful daughter (1 1/2 years old).

    We were hoping that TTC #2 would be easier (everyone says how much more fertile you are supposed to be after being pg once) but it not looking like it will. I am on my third and last cycle of clomid 100mg and still no pregnancy. We will be seing a specialist in July.

    But I have heard of MANY succes stories of woman getting pg with clomid and it is very likely that it will work for you.

    Like I said, I am now taking clomid and I am not being monitored either at this moment. My OB-GYN prescibed it to me and did not express concerns.

    About the ovulation sticks; they will show your surge when you are about to ovulate; meaning you have about 24-48 hours after your first surge before you ovualte.

    Good luck to you

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    Old 06-04-2004, 10:20 AM   #4
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    Chantale,

    Thanks for the reply - glad to hear that clomid worked for you for your first daughter! You said you had to do insemination as well? My doctor tells me that is the next step we will try but I don't think my insurance covers that so we were hoping to be able to use just the Clomid and have that work!
    Where are you at in your cycle now? I'm waiting to see, should be getting AF sometime this weekend or next week - hard to tell with me. This is my first month on Clomid too so maybe that will help regulate my cycle some.
    I'm curious to know what the specialist says in July for you - good luck!

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    Old 06-05-2004, 09:14 AM   #5
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    Pheena,

    I have my fingers crossed so that AF does not show up for you!
    It's hard not to think about it, isn't it? Every month I try to brain wash myself and believe that I will take it easy and not stress... but I am a big failure at it every time! LOL
    As for me, I am at CD 10; took my last clomid yesterday and waiting for ovulation. Do you get any side effects from it? I have the worse hot flushes and my pood hubby has to deal with me being SOOO impatient.
    Thanks for the congrats; our daughter is a blessing and I am thankful every day that she came into our lifes; how proud she makes me I did get pregnant with my second IUI so if you have any questions about the procedure; feel free to aks.
    BUT HOPEFULLY YOU WONT NEED IT

    Have a great weekend!

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    Old 06-06-2004, 04:01 PM   #6
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    Chantale,

    Yes, very hard not to think about it all the time. And of course, you pay so much attention to every little thing going on with your body trying to figure out if its a sign one way or the other! It's enough to drive a person nuts!! I try to convince myself every month that I'm not pg and then when I'm late, that little hope kind of creeps in there anyway!! It's hard to keep getting disappointed so you try not to set yourself up for it but it's tough not to when you're still hopefully.
    I'm on day 28 today, my cycle is normally so irregular though that it's hard to tell when AF will show up. Some people have said their cycles got longer with Clomid - did that happen for you as well? Were they more regular? Have been having cramps on and off for about 4 days though and that is unusual. Usually, I have them the day before and then really strong the morning of. I've been trying to eat better lately so not sure if it's something in my diet or what. Guess will just have to wait and see. Do you know if you always get AF about 14 days after you ovulate? I noticed that it can be longer than 14 days for me from the time the ovulation sticks peaked to when AF comes. Wonder if this is another piece of the puzzle....will have to ask my doctor about that I guess.
    I didn't really have too much trouble with the Clomid, was only on 50 and this was my first round. I did have some hot flashes but that was it. I was scared I was going to get really moody because I had people from out of town staying with us that week and had a surprise b-day party for my husband that weekend too. Luckily, I didn't seem to have any trouble except for the hot flashes though. It sounds like some people have a lot of problems on it. At least your hubby knows it's for a good reason, not just being impatient with him for the fun of it! ;-)
    Anyway, best go get a few things done. I'll let you know if anything happens with me and be crossing my fingers for you too!

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    Old 06-07-2004, 05:44 AM   #7
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    Good morning,

    How was your weekend? I see that you have been having fun trying to stay calm and wondering about every little detail Gosh, I can so understand how you are feeling! Hang in there, only a few more days until you find out

    Where are you from? We are in NY state and the weather has been cold and rainy all weekend. We were hoping for sunshine so that we could go walk somewhere, but we stayed home instead. Summer is taking forever to come. Hopefully next weekend will be better.

    I am sorry to hear that you are having cramps. Nothing too bad, I hope? I have had that as well with the clomid. Everytime I wondered if it could be implantation or anything else related to pregnancy; most of the times AF showd up but once, as you know it, I was pregnant. So I think it is like everything else; it can be a pregnancy symptom or it can also be caused by clomid. Sucks, doesn't it? Dont you whish they had a definite answer for us sometimes?!

    My cycles are still not perfectly regular (30-35 days... still much better). At least it's easier than 20-60 days I NEVER get AF 14 days after O; it usually takes 10-12 days for me, even with clomid. I have always wondered if maybe that was a problem but it did not seem to concern my RE before. I will see what this new doctor says in July. When do you see your doctor again?

    A suprise birthday party?! Cool! I think you said that your husband turned 30, right? Good for you about not having mood swings That is the one biggest reason why I dont want to take clomid again; it has been rough on me. But you do have one thing right; it's the least my husband should endure considering all we go through to get pg, HEHE!

    Well, I better go if I want to get anything done today.

    Let me know how things are for you It would be wonderful if the first try was a hit for you

    Chantale

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    Old 06-07-2004, 10:59 AM   #8
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    Hi Chantale,

    I'm in Minneapolis, Minnesota - we actually got wonderful weather this weekend so it was great. It has been really rainy and unseasonable chilly around here the last few weeks so it is nice to finally dry out a bit and get some sunshine! I think it was near 80 yesterday and sunny - we got to spend some time outside helping some friends work on their deck so that was nice!
    Still having cramps on and off but no AF yet. I'm just at day 29 today though so that's not unusual for me to be longer than that. Yes, I definitely wish they had certain symptoms that were for sure pg symptoms!! So frustrating!

    Have you read that book 'Taking Charge of your Fertility'? I was looking online and a lot of people seemed to think it was a good book. I looked at the Barnes and Noble by us but they had only 1 book on infertility. Lots of books on pregnancy in general but only 1 on infertility! There is another B&N by us too so I might go check it out there. They have it on ****** but I always like to look through the book before I buy it.

    Yes, had a 30th b-day party for my DH - he was surprised. I'd done one also for his 27th so I told him he must be slow

    I don't have any appt scheduled with my doctor for now, am thinking we will try Clomid for a few months and then if we still are nowhere, go back in. I'm just seeing my regular OB/GYN right now though so perhaps I will need to switch to a specialist...

    Best go get some work done but wanted to quick reply! Hope your day is going well!

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    Old 06-08-2004, 07:58 AM   #9
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    Pheena,

    how are you? What a nice day it turned out to be yesterday; warm and sunny! Looks like it's the same today; they say it should get in the 90's this week so we are finally getting summer weather after all

    I think ovulation is just around the corner here so it looks like Dh and I will be busy these next few days. I dont use ovulation sticks (I use cervical mucus as an idicator) but I was thinking about getting some for this month. I better hurry if I want to get some, huhh?! And I have an apointment for accupuncture this afternoon. It will be a first for me. I have heard many good things about it, so I will give it a try.

    How about you??? Any updates? "fingers crossed" How many days ago did you ovulate? I cant wait to find out how this cycle turns out for you so I can imagine how anxious you are feeling

    I have heard about that book "taking charge of your fertility" but never got a copy. Did you check at that other B&N yet? I read that it's a wonderful book, you could probably get great info in it.

    Do you have any RE in your area? (specialist) I highly recommend seing one instead of an OB-GYN if ever clomid did not work for you. Many woman I know lost precious time by not going straight to the specialist. We are going to have to drive 1 1/2 hours to get to ours in July, but I definatly think it's worth it. Just my two cents

    I sure am glad I found you on this board; it's nice to talk with someone who understands waht I am going through

     
    Old 06-09-2004, 11:58 AM   #10
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    Chantale,

    Hi, still no AF so I am hopeful. I ovulated on day 14 of my cycle this month according to the ovulation sticks and I also tried that ovulation predictor with the saliva (have you tried that?). So I'm at day 30 today. It doesn't seem like my cycle is always 14 days after ovulation though so could still just be my irregularity going on. Still having some mild to moderate cramps through out the days. That's be going on since last Wednesday I think so about a week? Every once and awhile I will get a strong one and think, here it comes but so far so good.
    I did stop at the other B&N yesterday and got the book, it is really interesting. I've only read probably the first 30 pages so haven't gotten too far yet. One interesting thing that is in there is about AF being delayed because of stressful events, it says that your body will delay ovulation if it is stressed but once ovulation has occurred, AF will come on schedule even if you have stress after you've ovulated. I thought it was interesting because you always wonder if you're stressing yourself out so much over thinking about whether or not you are pg that you're delaying AF. It also says that most women get AF between 12 to 16 days after ovulation but it can vary by person. But for the same woman, it's usually pretty consistantly within a day or two every cycle. Anyway, I'll let you know what I think after I've gotten a chance to look at the whole book but so far it has been really interesting.
    You're thinking you'll be ovulating this week? Yes, you will be busy! ;-) Are you on Clomid this month or anything? Or just trying it naturally? It's always crazy around that time of the month because seems like you have to arrange everything around your sex life!
    How was accupuncture? I think my mom tried that once for some neck pain she was having. Can't hurt to try, right??
    It's raining here again, I think it's supposed to be cloudy for a few days now. Guess we had our 2 days of sunshine!
    I think we probably have some good RE's in Mpls but I haven't looked yet. I will give Clomid a couple of months and then probably switch to an RE. One thing that I was looking at in that book is that a lot of OB/GYN's go through a lot of unnecessary tests that could be avoided if a woman charts everything and they go through that chart. I know my doctor never sat down to go through even my cycle calendar that I keep. I think they sometimes just want to try some stuff and see what works rather than doing better investigation up front.
    Anyway, best go get some work done - hope your accupuncture went well! I'm glad we found each other on here - isn't that funny that we just happen to both be new posters at the same time!

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    Old 06-09-2004, 03:20 PM   #11
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    Pheena,

    I am soooo hopefull that clomid worked for you! It just seems really good to me that you have not seen any signs of AF yet If it worked for you, you will be my inspiration girlfriend!
    PLEASSSSE let me know how tings will turn out, I cant wait to find out. When do you plan on testing? Look at me, getting excited and all when I am supose to help you stay calm

    Acupuncure went really well; I liked the lady very much... it was very...mmmm... Zen? She had that all natural "wise" look that you expect from someone who practices Chinese medecine. Am I making sense or am I just babbling? LOL So she asked me all kinds of questions and then poked at me with a few needles and gave me some herbs. I have to put it all in some water and boil it for like 90 minutes and drink it twice a day. She warned me that it tastes awful... but at this point, I am willing to take it all! HAHA!

    Ok, so I am making fun of the whole thing, but really I liked it. And not painful at all. I do believe that she can help me and she also said that we would adjust the treatments as needed when I finaly see the RE in July. She seemed very knowledgable about the whole TTC thing and well... all I have to do now is GET PG!

    I did take clomid this month; it's my third and last cycle on it. Jeff (my husband) is coming back from a business trip tonight; we will get started with the BD marathon I am sure he wont mind!

    WOW! So you found the book, huuh? I cant wait to see if you will find out more interesting things in it; I have heard so many good things about it. I have researched the whole infertility thing a whole lot these last year on the internet and always felt like I did not need the book; maybe I was wrong.

    Who knows... you might have to stick with your OB-GYN and never have to see an RE, after all

    Later

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    Old 06-09-2004, 07:32 PM   #12
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    Hi Chantale,

    Yes, I'm cautiously optimistic - hopefully it works for us this time!! I'm trying not to talk myself into thinking that it worked as that usually ends up in disappointment. I'm planning to not test probably until my period is a week late so on Sunday or Monday probably. Although I usually give in before then and test and then it's negative... So I'll try to wait this time. I think it's actually less disappointing to me getting AF than seeing only one line on the pg test!! After reading some of that book, I wish I had been charting my temperatures - if your temp stays up for 18 days after ovulation, it means you're pg. But now I have to wait longer...bummer!
    I think I'm coming down with a cold too, have been sneezing and getting really stuffed up today since about noon and now have a bad sore throat too. I might stay home tomorrow if I can clear some meetings off my work calendar...just never a good time to be sick!
    Did you get the ovulation sticks? Are you going to try those this month? I found it useful to use both the ovulation sticks and the salvia ones, sometimes I don't get a line that is quite as dark as the control line so I'm never sure if I'm actually ovulating. But this month it was really dark on there plus the salvia one was positive too so I figure 2 for 2 is a pretty good sign.
    The accupuncture sounds interesting - maybe it will make the difference for you - you never know!
    Does your DH travel a lot for business? I used to travel a little bit, like 3 or 4 times a year for a week or so but haven't really been doing that anymore. It is nice to get out and see some places but never really that much time to do anything fun when you're there for work anyway. Better to be home I think! Unless it's a vacation on a sunny beach! :-)
    I'll be crossing my fingers for you guys this week - this is the favorite time of the month for most DH's I think!
    Talk soon,

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    Chantale,

    Yes, I am posting this at 4 am my time - I gave in and decided I was going to take a HPT when I woke up this morning. But I woke up at 1:30 and really had to pee so I tried waiting for awhile but finally got up at 2:30. Figured I'd just do the test then - did the test, put it on the counter and counted down 3 mins. Then I looked at it and it was POSITIVE!!!! Can you believe it!?!
    I always wanted to tell my husband in some really creative way but I was so excited that I had to wake him up at 2:30 and tell him right away.
    So now of course, I'm so excited I can't sleep! Plus still have some of this cold so that isn't helping any. I don't know how I'm going to be able to concentrate at work tomorrow!
    Anyway, will update you later but was so excited I had to share! I'm sending good luck vibes to you - maybe this'll be your month too!!

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    OMG!!!!!!!

    Pheena; I am sooo happy for you! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! Wow, I am still under the shock, it's wonderful news to read this morning!

    On your first round of clomid, you rock girl!

    When will you be due?? A boy or a girl? Ohh, the excitment! I understand how excited you are and how difficult it must be to concentrate on work!

    How did your DH react??

    Well, I really have to get going as we have a dentist appointment this morning and we have to drop Alyson (our daughter) at day care. I just had to take a couple of minutes to congratulate you and to thank you for aking the time to share the joy with me.

    I will write more soon!

    Take care of yourself now. A happy and healthy 9 months to you (wow, I still cant believe it!). Let me know how you are doing!

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    OK, I'm back home for a while; I still have to go pick up Alyson, but I thought I would take an hour or two to myself before doing so.

    Pheena, how are you doing? I am still so excited for you! You must be having such an exciting day! Did you tell anyone yet or do you want to wait before you do?

    I just knew it when you told me that it had been 14 days since ovultation and AF had not showed up yet. I am very happy for you! I hope you still hang around and let me know how the pregnancy goes.

    I have to catch up with you now I have not ovulated yet, but it will happen within the next couple of days. I will go out and get ovulation sticks this afternoon. I hate those! I just never seem to get a clear reading. I have been wondering how the saliva ones were; would you recommend them?

    And I have been drinking my herbal tea like a big girl... gosh does it taste awful! And the acupunctur lady asked me to chart my temps, so I started doing that this morning (I had done it before getting pg with Alyson).

    It would be so nice if I did get pg this month as well and we could share this wonderful experience together!

    Any symptoms yet? I did not have any my whole first trimester when I got pg (other than mild cramping) so dont worry if you dont have any. In fact, good for you if you are feeling wonderful!

    I hope your cold goes away fast... you dont need that in the way now!

    Dh does travel quite a bit, but it is usually not that far. He was in Buffalo this week and only stayed there for one night. Nothing too bad... he know he is not allowed!

    Ok, gotta go again. I cant wait to hear from you again!

    Chantale

     
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