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    Old 03-27-2004, 06:52 PM   #1
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    Does exercise make you feel worse?

    Hi All,

    Just wanted to bounce this off of some of you who have been able to return to some form of exercise.

    Last Saturday I went for a 6 km walk. It wasn't a killer walk or anything but it was still a workout nonetheless (it was hot outside and I was sweating). During the walk I felt unbalanced at times. I felt *very* tired at the end of it and, that night, totally shattered. For the next 3 days anxiety levels were sky-high again, I slept badly and felt quite lousy. It passed and I was OK again. Yesterday I decided to go to the gym for the first time in 7 months. I took it *really* easy. I did 2 lots of 10 minutes on a treadmill at a moderate pace, a few minutes on a rowing machine, some light weights and some stomach exercises. Last night I started feeling crummy again but not as bad as from the 6 k walk. Last night was a bit anxiety ridden and now today I am a little more spaced then usual and feel a low-level ill feeling again....almost nausea but not quite.

    So what gives? Have any of you had this happen? Is the exercise just too much for this weary body still? Should I perservere? It's hard to know what to do.....

    Thanks....Scott - this is me itching to be active again!

     
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    Old 03-27-2004, 08:06 PM   #2
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    Re: Does exercise make you feel worse?

    I have gone back to exercise and overall I have found it has helped me but I have had to take it slowly.

    A 6km walk sounds like overdoing it to me. I started at 10 min walk and built it up over a month to about 1 hr and then added swimming starting at 10 mins and increasing the amount of time to about 40 minutes.

    However I have since had a severe dizziness relapse and have started at the beginning again of doing small amounts of exercise and trying to build it up again. I exercise until I start to feel dizzy and then push through it for a couple of minutes and then stop. If you push yourself too much, then you end up knocking yourself out, in the long run your body wont be benefiting from the exercise, either physically or compensation wise.

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    Old 03-27-2004, 09:35 PM   #3
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    HI Scott,
    As you know, I have been running, and find that most of the time it's a good thing for me. I guess we all have varying causes of our vestibular disturbances, so it's possible that your's is different from mine. Did you do a lot of exercise before all of this? I was a runner and did my first marathon in May last year. I was hit with this chronic mess in June. So for me, running was the only option. I couldn't walk or bike, I AM A RUNNER! A stubborn one! But I just started back slowly over the course of months. I have to admit, so days I just skip it, if I am having heavy symptoms, I just decide not to force the issue. But a lot of the time it makes me feel a little better to run.

    I don't know what to say about the anxiety. I know you have been apprehensive about taking drugs, but my doctor put me on a low dosage of Klonopin which also helps with panic attacks in addition to the vestibular supression. Although it's not a cure, it does seem to take the edge off my symptoms on a lot of days. Two docs now have assured me that taking Klonopin at this stage of my illness won't affect compensation, and that I need a break. Dizzy in Missouri is also taking the drug, and someone else posted a while back and has reported some good results. There are some initial side effects of sleepiness, but I adjusted quickly. I was so resistant to taking this stuff, but now I am glad I did. Just a thought since you have had trouble with panic too.
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    Old 03-27-2004, 09:37 PM   #4
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    Re: Does exercise make you feel worse?

    Oh, Leigh, I wanted to mention, I can't believe you are swimming! How does that effect your ears? I tried to put my head under the water at some hot springs and provoked a vertigo attack. The pressure was too much for me. Even being in an indoor pool area is unpleasant at times. The echoing sounds and water movement make me sick and send me to bed for a few hours rest.

    Interesting how we all can tolerate different things.
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    Old 03-28-2004, 04:14 AM   #5
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    Hi,

    Just wanted to add here, swimming has been great for me. I was a 4 time a weeker at the gym before this and althought I feel so much better I still dont feel ready for the gym yet, I dont want to make things worse while they are improving. I feel totally normal while I am swimming and around the pool area, I also use the sauna and steam room which is great.

    I feel that key is not to overdo things, just take it easy and do what you feel OK with.

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    Old 03-28-2004, 05:52 AM   #6
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    Hi I started going to the gym about 3 wks ago - have only been twice so far cos then had a cold and a relapse and wouldnt go when I feel this bad.

    On a very *good* day I did quite well in the gym, I could hack it BUT I found that after say 15 mins of cardio on the step machine I felt VERY faint like I would pass out. I stopped then started slowly again once it felt better. I also find that I feel motion for about 5mins after I stop the stepper.

    I have been reading that its vital to do exercise and cardio stuff whilst doing VRT so will resume gym when I get to a *good* patch again. As I say I fidn the faint thing a bit scary and the motion but I persevere a bit like the VRT.

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    Hi,

    Just wanted to add here, swimming has been great for me. I was a 4 time a weeker at the gym before this and althought I feel so much better I still dont feel ready for the gym yet, I dont want to make things worse while they are improving. I feel totally normal while I am swimming and around the pool area, I also use the sauna and steam room which is great.

    I feel that key is not to overdo things, just take it easy and do what you feel OK with.

    Lizzy x
    How interesting that it doesn't bother you at all. Cool! I thought about swimming, but like I said, I can't even step into a pool area without setting my stomach into nausea. Great that you tolerate it ok. Some people talk of how driving is great for them too, but I am uncomfortable in a car a lot of the time. The motion really irritates me, but I wasn't this way at all before the onset of this. I was a rollercoaster fanatic. No longer...

    Great situation with your exercise.
    Take care,
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    Old 03-28-2004, 10:51 AM   #8
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    How interesting that it doesn't bother you at all. Cool! I thought about swimming, but like I said, I can't even step into a pool area without setting my stomach into nausea. Great that you tolerate it ok. Some people talk of how driving is great for them too, but I am uncomfortable in a car a lot of the time. The motion really irritates me, but I wasn't this way at all before the onset of this. I was a rollercoaster fanatic. No longer...

    Great situation with your exercise.
    Take care,
    Julianne

    Yes, its strange but I feel normal when driving too, but not too good as a passenger (I have always had motion sickness as a passenger though!). I remember school bus rides were a nightmare!

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    Old 03-28-2004, 11:40 AM   #9
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    Keep going Scott! As I have said before, I stopped doing my exercise for 3 DAYS ONLY!!! I had to do some sort of movement with my body because I am ADDICTED to my exercise.

    I still cannot do plyometrics as much , some days are better than others, but I do lift my weights and I do TRY and do more and more cardio. I get nauseated but keep working through it. I KNOW that the nausea will be there even if I stop, so why stop????

    I refuse to let my body get out of shape. I might not be as far as I would today, if I had never "come down with lab", but I am at least keeping with what I had created.

     
    Old 03-28-2004, 12:06 PM   #10
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    High,

    I go back some years with vestibular problems, which started with a viral infection. It did not attack the balance organs, but destroyed a large chunk of my hearing in both ears. Hearing and balance are both encased in the same bony labyrinth with a common fluid.
    Exercise, yes, I suffer the same problem you describe. I love swimming, but if I push too far or too hard, when I get out I feel 'very' fatigued and not dizzy but as you very accurately state, just 'off', a little 'unwell'. It will take me two or three days to recover. If I have a cold or worse, the flu, it can absolutely crease me with fatigue. I do not suffer vertigo. Just very occasionally I have small 'windows' of feeling on top of the world, almost euphoria, which I consider to be everything is working back to manufacturers original spec. This generally only lasts for a few hours, then I am returned to a half life of feeling 'off' and mildly 'ill' this is when the fatigue returns.
    In answer to your question, yes, overdoing exercise can make me feel very unwell and I suffer extreme fatigue. I take no medication (or otherwise) and have been declared fit and healthy in all other respects. Oh and yes, anxiety seems to go hand in hand with symptoms. In my opinion, the symptoms include anxiety, IT IS NOT ANXIETY CAUSING THE SYMPTOMS!

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    Thanks for the replies everyone!

    I think I will keep on going with the gym at a slow even pace and build it up over time. Can't think of a better way to have more stamina to fight this beast. Very interesting about the swimming too. That was something I just sort of ruled out because of all the head movements etc but maybe it'll work! I really need the swimming too I think because since lab struck, I've been battling neck pain and now, mild arm and hand pain from too much PC use. Swimming must be good for loosening all of that up again.

    Like you said Julianne, It's just bizarre how we all get affected by different things. I cannot drive a car for example without pushing me towards a panic attack, however, being a passenger is fine. Riding my mountain bike is fine. I can't work it out!

    Phil, your comments about anxiety - YES! I wish the specialists understood this. Next time I see one (if necessary), I'll be taking some journal articles with me to educate them about vestibular disorders and anxiety.

    Cheers....Scott

     
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