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    Old 03-20-2005, 06:25 PM   #1
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    Hi everyone. I hope everyone had a great weekend.
    I'm getting so frustrated with the way I feel, I'm about ready to scream...............does anyone here think that allergies is their reason for the inner ear problems?? If so, please describe your symptoms. I've been having this problem on and off for about 6 months now. My symptoms are as follows: lightheaded, kinda dizzy, watery eyes, headache, and most of the time, i feel like im in a "fog", my ears hurt some, and they feel full. I've been to my family Dr. and she's not been much help, i've also been to an ENT, but when I seen him, I was feeling better. He didn't think it was anything to do with my ears. I'm beginning to think it may be allergies, even though I don't have the usual allergy symptoms, (runny nose, sneezing, etc.) I can't afford to keep going from Dr. to Dr. It also comes and goes. Feel bad for 3 weeks, then 2 weeks i'm fine, and then it comes back. I was just curious if anyone else had these symptoms, and if so, has anything helped with their symptoms. Thanks ahead for any info. Deena

     
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    Old 03-20-2005, 08:06 PM   #2
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    Re: allergies and inner ear

    Hi Deena, assumimg you are a woman, Do you feel worse when its that time of the month? Did the docter say if you have fluid in your ears? I saw other post of your that you have meiners. Is that still the case or was that a wrong DX?
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    Old 03-21-2005, 05:01 AM   #3
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    Hi Lisa,
    I'm not sure if I have Meiners.......my first ENT told me I did at first, but then he looked in my ear, and told me I was missing a tiny bone, but he wanted me to follow the diet for Meiners. He put me on a diuretic years ago, and I didn't have anymore problems until about 6 months ago. It seems different this time.....not like before. Thats why I was wondering if maybe it could be allergies. Nothing I do seems to help. I just don't like the "fog" feeling. It scares me more than anything, cause at times, it seems I can't function. It doesn't matter if its that time of the month or not, but to be honest, it did get worse when I was put on birth control for a female problem i was having, and i quit taking them about a month and a half ago, thinking that may help, but apparantly its not going to. Thanks for posting......I hope you feel better yourself. Let me know how the Dr.s appt goes today. Deena

     
    Old 03-21-2005, 10:12 AM   #4
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    I have been dealing with the "fog" as well for about four months now. It is absolulty terrible and I do think allergies are at least partially to blame for my problem. I feel disconnected, my vision seems gauzy, it is hard to think, sometime it is almost like I am in a bubble. I never really feel off balance or like I am going to fall, but I too sometimes get so spacey and out of it I can't function very well. It feel like I have been drugged sometimes. It is really scary and can make you feel really anxious and depressed. I had an Ecog and an hearing test a few weeks ago. The hearing test showed a very slight deviation in my right ear, and I still have not gotten back the Ecog results, but the technician said there seemed to be somthing wierd going on in my right ear, she just couldn't tell what right then. I go back for a rotrary chair and ENG in April. I think my problem is allergies because when my fog began when I all of a sudden developed a ton of new allergies. I have tried most of the newer perscription antihistamines and non of them seem to work, but I have read of a lot of people who have recieved help from older antihistames which work on you brain and vestibular system. Chlortrimeton is one that has helped people (but unfortunatly not me.) I have also tried Benadryl (which also didn't work) and now I am going to start on some OTC motion sickness drugs. They are all antihistamines which sooth the agitated labrynith. So hopefully if my problem is an inner ear allergic reaction, those can help. I think I am also going to start allergy shots and go on a fast to rule out multiple food allergies which are often hard to skin test for. So in short, yes, I think your fog could definately be allergies. Try Allegra and Chlor-trimeton first. I have heard that both can help.

     
    Old 03-21-2005, 10:42 AM   #5
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    Drea.........thank you so much for your info. I went today and got some Chlor-trimeton.......I could only find one kind. Hope its the right one. There are so many other brands and different varietys out there. What is an Ecog?? I seen a couple of ENTs and they said I had a hole in my left eardrum, and a bone was gone in that ear....I have lost about all of my hearing in that ear too. That happened several years ago, and i was fine until it hit me again a few months ago. This time seems a little different though. I read these boards, and get lots of good information. More than what a Dr. will tell you anyway. lol.........I'm just trying to figure this out on my own, since i can't find anything out any other way. I didn't have the fog years ago, and that is what really scares me more than anything.......thanks again for your reply. Hope you start feeling better real soon.

     
    Old 03-21-2005, 05:52 PM   #6
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    The Chlor-Trimeton you need is the older, drowsy kind. If it says non-drowsy, don't take it. The active ingredient is chlorpheniramine maleate, you can usually get a generic brand of it for cheap. Take a 4mg pill every six hours or so. I really hope it works for you. You mentioned in another post that you have been diagnosed with Meniere's. An Ecog is a test which is specifically designed to test for Mieneres disease by measuring fluid levels in your inner ear. You really should have had one done. It sounds like you have a lot off wierd ear stuff going on that your doctors are not doing a very good job at addressing. How did you find out that there was a bone that had disintegrated? Did they just look in your ear? I think the best thing you can do for yourself right now is make an appointment to see a neuro-otologist, write out a detailed list of your symptoms, history, what other doctors have told you and be persistant about getting your questions answered.
    This fog has made the past few months of my life a living hell and it is looking like I am going to have to go home and take some time off of school in order to sort things out... but I will not rest until I get some relief (there is really no other option, I can't keep living in this half dream state.) I'll be sure to let you know what I find out as I keep going to doctors.
    What does your fog feel like exactly? Do you feel better in the morning/ worse at night? Do you find there are certian things that make it worse like bright over head lights; stores like Wal-Mart or Home Depot that are really bright and spacious? Fog is a word that can really be interpreated in so many different ways. I am really interested in finding other people who feel like I do because so far none of the 11 doctors I have seen seem to have come in contact with any of them. It is so reassuring to know that I am not the only one feeling this way.
    Take care and hope you feel better soon.

     
    Old 03-22-2005, 09:07 AM   #7
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    Hi Drea......About Meiners......well, the ENT....(which was suppose to be really good) did nothing more than hear my symptoms, and look in my ear, through a microscope...and thats when he said a tiny bone in my ear had disenegrated....and that I had symptoms of Meiners......and he put me on a low sodium diet, and put me on a diuretic. He done a test on my hearing, which I have lost about all my hearing in my left ear.....but you can actually do that, with a virus....as i've read on here. That was the only test he actually done. My symptoms finally went away. Now years later, they appear again, but a little different. I went to see another ENT, but I was feeling a little better by the time I got in to see him. He just looked in my ears, and said he didn't see anything. Well, I don't have insurance, so i can't afford going to dr. after dr. Every time I do, I don't know anything more, thats why i'm so into these boards. I find out so much more from here. Sometimes I think its allergies that interfere with my inner ear, and sometimes I think its a really bad sinus infection, that just hasn't gone away. Ive looked for a neuro-otologist, but haven't found one near me. I just need to continue looking, if I want questions answered. I just don't feel like going far from home. I don't feel like doing much of anything. I had to quit working cause of this, thank goodness I have help with living expenses. My fog is so hard to explain.......i feel like i've been drugged......kinda like when you get woke up suddenly......and haven't had time to focus...make sense?? It gets so bad sometimes, I feel like i'm going to pass out......but thank goodness that hasn't happened yet. It just scares me.....I get real panicy when I go to big stores.......the big open spaces makes me feel strange. I don't know what this is, but the way it looks, i'm just going to have to figure it out myself, unless I get lucky enough to find a really good Dr. who is willing to listen to me, without looking at me like I was strange. Another thing is....it comes and goes.........i'm like this for like a month or so, then it'll ease up for about 2 weeks, then it comes back. My family Dr. put me on antibiotics (amoxil) for 10 days, felt a little better, but came right back, then she tried me on predisone....there again, felt a little better, but it came right back. I dunno.....I wish it would just go away for good. Being that it comes and goes make me think its more allergy/sinus infection related.........I just get so frustrated cause I don't ever feel like doing anything................well, thank you for listening, please keep me updated on YOU........and I hope you start feeling better soon!!!

     
    Old 03-22-2005, 09:13 AM   #8
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    forgot to post earlier.......that is the Chlor-Trimeton I got. I've only taken it twice so far, so I guess its too early to tell if its gonna help at all. I have my fingers crossed hoping it will..........thank you Drea..................for all your information.

     
    Old 03-22-2005, 04:59 PM   #9
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    I have been experiencing the same thing. Mine started the beginning of January. It started with my allergies, runny nose, itchy all that. Then one morning i woke up and i felt dizzy or foggy, ears seemed full and would ache sometimes. The runny nose and itchy went away but the ear fullness, occasional ear pain and the fogginess remains. The doctor told me that i was really congested in my nose and that what is causing the pressure in my ears throwing off my equilibrium. I tried differenct decongestants but nothing seems to work for the dizziness. The only time in the past 3 months it went away a lil was when i caught the flu it went away for about 2 days while i was sick ,wierd i know. but when i got better it came back. I think i'm gnna have my doctor refer me to an ENT. Its a frustarting feeling, also i notice its worse in the mornings then tapers off a lil towards the evening.

     
    Old 03-22-2005, 09:10 PM   #10
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    Hi, I have been struggling with the same thing. Mostly from allergies, my whole life. It is very depressing. So I can see why you are so concerned and frustrated. I just found this site today becouse just recently my symptoms are the worst they have ever been, and I am looking for something to help. I suffer from being in a foggy half awake feeling, can't concentrate, when I try to concentrate my head hurts and even gets sharp pain. I feel dizzy and find it hard to walk streight ( equilibrum off ). When standing still I feel like I am going to fall over. My ears are full of fluid , and pressure , and they will not drain. Thru out the day my ears are so full of fluid I can feel my pulse thru my ears and maks my hearing go in and out with every pulse.

    In summer I have allergies that make me sneeze and eyes water but my ears are fine.

    In winter I don't sneeze and my eyes are fine --- but my ears act up -- different allergy different symptoms.....

    I can take sudafed , allegra, or claritin for my summer allergies but they don't touch my winter allergies.

    Winter allergies are from being in a house with windows shut - regular house dust that you can't see being blown around from furnace fan -- dust at work- warehouse - very dusty - and pet dander and pet hair.

    I need to find an allergy medicine that works for them symptoms.

    You might need to find a similar allergy medicine too..... if it is allergies that are bothering you.....

    ( sorry for spelling errors -- they need a spell check on this )

     
    Old 03-23-2005, 05:28 AM   #11
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    I am beginning to wonder if the fogginess that is caused by allergies isn't some wierd variation of Meinere's disease. I started taking an anti-motion sickness drug Bonamine (meclizine) yesterday which is often prescribed for Menieres patients and it actually seems to be doing something for me. The problem is it is very sedating, so while my head does feel a little bit clearer, I am having trouble staying awake in order to enjoy it. I think the next docotor I am going to try to find is an neuo-otologist who specialized in allergies, or an allergiest who specializes in neuro-otological problems. There has to be one out there some where in the US. I don't experience ear fullness, but I have read many places that it is a symptom of ETD which can cause foggy feelings. ETD can be brought on or aggrivated by allergies but tubes often help. Mieners patients also complain of ear fullness. My theory as of right now is that allergies, depending on the person and the allergen, affect people in a lot of differnt ways. We who feel so foggy and out of it are experiencing an allergic reaction in our inner ear fluid, casuing our body to go on vestibular compensation mode. Our brain is spending so much time making sure that we are upright, that we are constantly in a state of overload. For me, the fog often feels like a part of my brain has been switched off and I am only left with a part of it to keep thinking and carry on the buisness of life. I think I might be beginning to understand where that other part of my brain went.
    The reason the newer perscription anti histamines don't do anything for the fog is that they do not permate the neural membrane (or something like that) which is also why they don't don't make you drowsy.
    This fog is so frustrating. I am seeing (supposedly) one of the best allergists in the country and everytime I try to explain to him what is going on and how serious it is, he brushes me off. So does anyone, anywhere, know of an inner ear/allergiest specialist or at least somewhere to begin looking for one?

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    Old 03-23-2005, 08:06 AM   #12
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    Hi everyone, thanks for posting. SOrry so many of us are going through this. Drea, when I went to an ENT a few weeks ago, he told me the "foggy" feeling had nothing to do with Meiners. He also has Meiners, and said that was not a symptom at all. He's suppose to be the best around here, but i'm having my doubts. I think allergies are really affecting the inner ear in alot of us. The only other symptom I have is watery eyes..............and i am somewhat congested. Thats what makes me think it could be sinuses too. Gosh, I don't know, I think i'm just desperate for an answer. I'm gonna keep looking for a neuro-otologist until i find one. WHat is ETD?? I don't know if i ever mentioned this before or not, but every since I was young, I had this problem. When I yawn, it feels like something opens up and everything is really loud to me, and I kinda have to hold my nose and suck in for it to close..........I know lots of people have to do the opposite.........hold their nose and blow, but when i told the first ENT this, he looked at me like i was nuts...............so i didn't mention it to the other Drs. Maybe I should. Thanks everyone for your replies.........I look forward to reading them.

     
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    Whats really wierd with me is that it my fogginess kind of tapers off at night and i seem to get more energy as well. My nose has been congested the whole time. so i'm sure its allergy/sinus related. I have been taking Claritan for the last 3 days, but I dont like taking antihistamines because they cause drowsiness. I also tried Bonamine which did absolutly nothing for me., however i only tried it once, maybe it takes a few doses to actually work, but since Drea saying its sedating, i don't know if i want to try it. Also what i experience is wierd, not sure if you have experienced this as well but when i'm like walking down stairs or moving my head a lot from running or something i can feel/hear this popping/clicking sound coming from like behind my nose/ear area. kind of like if you eat those pop rock candies when you were a kid, that light popping sensation, kind of like that, I havn't mentioned that ot my doc yet, i'm sure he'll look at me like i'm nuts, like when he told me my dizziness and stuff is all in my head.

     
    Old 03-23-2005, 11:46 AM   #14
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    Deena- the thing about sounds being too loud and having to suck in to get relief is your Eustachian Tube malfunctioning. When you yawn, the tubes open and you hear the click. They are supposed close again on their own, but for some reason yours don't seem to. It seems a whole lot like Eustachain Tube Dysfunction to me. ETD also leads to hearing loss, dizziness, feeling of fullness or pressure in the ears. The mucus your body produces when you have allegies often finds its way into the Eustachian tubes and messes things up, which is where allergies could be playing into your problem.
    When you got diagnosed with Meinere's, were you having spells of vertigo? On what basis did he diagnose you if he didn't give you an Ecog? What were your symptoms? As for the ENT telling you brain fog isn't Meinere's, I don't think he's right. I have done a lot of reading on the disease, and while brain fog is never listed as an offical symptom, it is almost always noted as something Meiner's patients complain about. Depending on where you are in the country, the University of Pennsylvania is supposed to have some great neuro-oto. people. I think that is where I am going to end up soon if none of my doctors in D.C. can figure this out.

     
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    Drea,
    When he diagnosed me with Meineres......all he did was look in my ear, a hearing test.........and thats it. Thats why i'm not sure if its Meineres or not. I figured he'd have to do more to make a real diagnosis. No cat scan, MRI, or anything. As for the Dr. who told me brain fog isn't meineres.....i think he's wrong too. I've read lots of stuff myself, and most of them do mention brain fog. The ETD you mentioned sounds alot like my symptoms. And I guess it can come and go. I haven't done any research on ETD, but am going to. I really appreciate your replies......you've helped me so much......and I want to say Thank You!!! How have you been feeling?? Keep me informed..............please!

     
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