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    Old 05-27-2003, 04:59 AM   #1
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    Hi all
    Last week or the week before someone posted a message about dizziness being related to their neck. I think the person said that their physical therapist raised their arm over their head and this caused them to pass out.
    I had a doctors appt on Friday past and he took my pulse as he raised my arms. He said my pulse weekened as he raised my arms and this could be causing the pressure in my head.
    I am looking for more info on the connection between neck pain and dizziness/pressure. If you are out there and you found a solution to your symptoms, reply and let me know.
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    Old 05-27-2003, 01:48 PM   #2
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    hi mia
    i have had labrynthitus for 20 months and for the last two i have had severe neck pain and a pressure in the back of my head i havent had physio but i can understand whoever passed out because if i lift my own arms over my head i go very light headed good luck to you mollysmum x

     
    Old 05-27-2003, 01:48 PM   #3
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    hi mia
    have you tried an orthapedic pillow i have recently brought one and find this much better rather than sleeping with loads of pillows

    [This message has been edited by mollysmum (edited 05-27-2003).]

     
    Old 06-01-2003, 09:33 AM   #4
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    Hello Mia! I'm the one who wrote about neck and dizziness. Sorry, I haven't been around as much I was not feeling too great and looking at the computer makes it worse. Anyways, yes, a link has been established between neck/shoulder pain and dizziness in my case. I've been to 2 physiotherapist and I've been told that I have Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. You can look it up on the Web there are lots of sites. What it is basically is that either some of your nerves, veins or artery is being compressed therefore the blood flow to the head is not normal bringing on dizziness. As you will see if you research it the diagnosis usually takes a long time as most of the usual tests (CT scan and MRI) are usually negative. Also, my physio told me that very specific maneuvers are used to detect this (raising the arms while checking pulse is one of them) and general practinioners awnd even neurologist do not know how to conduct the test. It is usually a physiotherapist taht will be able to perform it and then again, it has to be a good one, one that is well informed on the dizziness/neck pain problems. The process is usually long and frustrating because people are often referred to the wrong specialists (ENT for example!!)If you have other questions, please feel free to ask.
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    Old 06-01-2003, 11:56 AM   #5
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    Hi there Yahoo,

    Hmmm, despite all my research I've never come across that one - looked it up - v. interesting. I've always had real problems with my arms, particularly holding them above my head, I can barely swim as it causes my arms so much pain and I've been like this since I was a child. My lower back has just given out - I realise from reading up on it that, that isn't connected, but my neck is stiff and painful. Hmmm... Other than the dizziness, what symptoms do you have of this condition? Be really helpful to know. I see a physio in ten days - was referred by the TMJD doc, might ask her about this one. I've looked in to everything else, so it's worth a try, lol.

    Wow, I can't even tell you how much money I would pay and what I would be prepared to do to get rid of this dizziness - I'd eat worms if I thought it'd help.
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    Old 06-03-2003, 03:27 AM   #6
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    Hi there

    I have not been diagnosed with the same condition as Yahoo, but i have certainly had a form of 'neck diagnosis' for my dizziness.

    I am a long term sufferer of headaches coupled with neck and upper back pain. I have been referred to a physio by a neurotologist who says that my neck problem is hampering my recovery from what was more than likely an inner ear problem originally. It has moved beyond an inner ear problem and my neck is now the problem! The physio is working on strengthening my 'core' neck muscles (the very deep ones at the back) as he says they are very week. I don't have the lifting arms above the head problem though.


     
    Old 06-03-2003, 03:28 AM   #7
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    I mean weak...

     
    Old 06-03-2003, 02:13 PM   #8
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    Hello Hbep, Miza, Jen... I thought you eating worms was pretty funny Hbep and I'd gladly join you if it helped! You were asking what other symtpoms I have aside from dizziness and lightheadness. Well I have pain in my neck at the back of my head which causes occasional headaches. I also have pain in my right clavicule, right shoulder and right upper back. I also have tingling in my fingers and I used to have vertigo spells although I haven't had any recently. And of course I have nausea. I'm almost always sitting or lying down because any physical activity makes me worse.
    As for excercices: Yes, I found an excellent physiotherapist and he gave me some excercices to do at home: strecthing for my back and he gave my husband some manipulations on my spine to do every night. My first visit was enlightning. He pressed on a few areas on my body and some of the spots made me so dizzy he had to stop or I would've been sick. He said that if he can replicate my symptoms, that's where the problem is originating from. By the way, I was evaluated by 3 different physio until I found one that knew a lot about that sort of problems. Also, the physio I'm seeing now is also an ostepath which means that has been trained in bone structure as well. I think it's because his different training that he's got a broader approach to this. We also keep in touch by phone if I have questions or concerns. I was telling him yesterday that taking a shower makes me incredibly dizzy and I was wondering why. Any of you guys get this? He says that using my arms high when washing my hair will do that because of the thoracic outlet. He also says that my balnace is probably affected because I close my eyes. My body is left to rely on the neck (which isn't reliable now) and my ears for balance. Makes sense... By the way, just to be on the safe side, I've decided to go for an MRI even though my physio says it'll probably be normal as Thoracic Outlet is not always visible on CT scans and MRI's. I think of you guys often and no matter what the cause of the dizziness is, we can all relate!
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    Old 06-03-2003, 02:16 PM   #9
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    Sorry, I forgot an important (and annoying)symptom: ringing in the ears...
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    Old 06-04-2003, 02:30 PM   #10
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    Hello Miza, No I don't take anything aside from Advil for my neck pain. I have tried Robaxacet in the past and it really helped but at the time I wasn't dizzy. Because these pills made me really drowsy back then, I'm afraid they'll make me even dizzier now. I'm not brave enough to risk it!! I have tried Ibuprofen too and even Advil doesn't help me. It just takes some of the excruciating pain away making it more bearable but it remains very painful. Sorry to hear that your excercices make you worse... I don't know about you but I need every bit of hope I can get!! The excercises that I do at home have helped quite a bit for the pain but not much yet for the dizziness. My husband says (and I think it makes sense) that it may take longer to see improvements in that area. Let's face it, I haven't got the point of being so tensed as to feel dizzy in a few days so I should expect recovery to take a while... Even the physio tells me that it started a long time ago. Hope you find something to help with the pain.
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    Old 06-05-2003, 05:38 AM   #11
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    Yesterday I fell asleep on the couch and woke up with a kink in my neck. While stretching to releave some of the discomfort I noticed a lump behind my ear and tenderness in the front of the ear. If I push on the lump it is painful. I am thinking it is a swollen gland. I have been taking heavy duty antibiotics because the doc believes my symptoms are coming from both my neck and my sinuses. I actually thought I was getting better until this new pain started. Anyone know anything about swollen lymph nodes?

     
    Old 06-06-2003, 12:59 PM   #12
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    Hello Rose, nice to hear from you Darci!
    Well, I'm glad if I can steer a just one person in the right direction as it took me sooo long to be correctly diagnosed! Yes, Thoracic Outlet Syndrome is the correct medical term for this condition. My physio has given me some excercices to do at home and I've seen a little improvement so far (it has only been a week). Darci, don't be embarrased about not wanting to take your shower when you're alone. I do the same thing. This morning I felt brave anough to take it even tough my husband was gone because, as I just said, I feel a bit better but prior to that I was always taking it with someone around. And even in the future, when I feel horrible, I will continue doing that because I am extremely afraid of falling after passing out and hurting myself with no one around!! I really don't feel like I would loose my balance but really like I'm going to pass out. Anyways, Rose, I think it would be a good idea if you talkeed to your grandfather. Good luck and let me know what he says!
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    Old 08-06-2003, 08:59 AM   #13
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    Hi! I was looking up neck pain and dizziness in a moment of desperation on the internet and your site came up. In reading your symptoms I think I may have finally found some people I can relate to. I was beginning to think I was the only one in the world with this problem. I have had pain in my neck (where it connects on to the head) sporadically for the last few years. I also sporadically have pain in my shoulder that runs down my arm ( my hand feels tingly). Last June I was driving down the highway and I twitched my head to get the hair out of my eyes. All of a sudden I thought I was going to pass out. I had a dizzy/pressure feeling (for lack of a better way to describe it, it's so weird) for about a week. Then it left. Five months later I woke up one morning with that feeling in my head. I have had it for 8 months (not one second relief). I have been to an ENT doctor, two neurologists, an opthamologist, and a TMJ doctor. No one is for sure what is wrong with me. All my tests come back normal. I also have a clicking and ringing in my ears. I know something is wrong with me!! I wanted to ask a question. I read that it bothered someone to look at the computer. The worse the feeling is in my head the harder it is for me to do anything on the computer also. I was wondering if anyone has noticed that shopping bothers them. When my head is really bothering me scanning shelves really makes it worse (forget going to blockbuster video). Also, does it seem like going to a physiotherapist helps? Is there really anything that can be done for this or is this something you just have to live with? I understand the comment about eating the worms to get rid of the feeling in your head. I would give anything to get rid of this. No one realizes how awful it is unless you are living it. --Pen

     
    Old 08-06-2003, 10:11 AM   #14
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    Hi there Penelope,

    I read the list of specialists you have seen, and will tell you what I tell everyone who is struggling for a diagnosis - go and see a neuro otologist. Not a neurologist. Neuro otologists are thin on the ground but it's worth finding one - they are super specialists in dizziness/the ears/the brain - they are THE SPECIALISTS to make a correct diagnosis for someone with the dizzies. Look up the recent post by Wowwweee and find the list of centres of excellence for dizziness that Subs posted. I know it's a pain, but it's worth it. Often people see many specialists but the problem is they don't see the correct one. It does sound a lot like this is caused by your neck, although I can't say for sure. A neuro otologist would run the correct tests to ascertain if it's inner ear, if not they will discuss other options with you - in your case it sounds like this could be your neck, in which case YES absolutely, you should be seeing a physio who can work on your neck and there are also drugs you can take to help relax the muscles in that area. You first, however, need to check if you have an inner ear disorder. I know you will be specialist weary, but no, you don't have to suffer with this forever, one of the ways of ensuring that doesn't happen is to get the correct tests and then diagnosis from the correct specialist. There are people on this board who have obtained neck induced dizziness diagnosis from neuro otologists. It is a common problem and they will be familiar with it as they ONLY treat dizzy patients.

    Hope this helps.
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    Old 08-07-2003, 12:09 AM   #15
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    Pen

    You are in the right place!! I have had a 'neck' diagnosis. And it came from a neuro otologist - Hbep is right. Have a look through my posts to see my history.
    I am seeing a physiotherapist. Feel free to ask questions, I'm happy to help.

    Jen

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