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    Old 09-22-2016, 06:29 PM   #1
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    Unhappy Impingement magically disappear from images?

    I feel like I'm going to just cry. I have no idea where to go from here. Here's my story: when I was 8 years old, I was warming up for a softball game by simply sitting on the ground in a very comfortable V-stretch. It wasn't the stretching or an over extension that did anything. It was the mere sitting with my left leg extended slightly outward. It suddenly "locked" in my groin (I don't know how else to describe it) in a deep pinch and I screamed in pain. It went away shortly. However, for fear of having to sit out of a game, I shut my mouth. Over the next 20 years, the problem never went away, but I conditioned myself to NEVER extend my leg outward, or make any movement that might cause a flare up. (I do have herniated discs, confirmed in a 2007 MRI, that does cause lower left back pain, so for years my doctors have told me it's just pain associated with herniated discs...But could I really have had herniated discs at 8? I can't imagine so.) Over the past 2-3 years, it's become a nightmare. I'm now experiencing pain deep in the buttock, outer hip, increased pain in the groin, but the worst part is I've developed a SEVERE ache so deep into my groin that it radiates down my leg. It's almost worse than the pain itself. I can walk okay, but standing on my left leg, sitting, and lying down are extremely bothersome. I've been treated for sciatica, the discs, muscle spasms, etc. Anything I can think of they've treated, and I did PT for some time. (I've also been on NSAIDs and pain killers the majority of my life due to an unrelated condition, but they do not touch this pain/ache.) I have a very laid-back demeanor, almost chronically so. Most doctors never believe me at first when I bring a complaint to them because I don't "seem" to be in pain. But, I'm just extremely self-aware and self-conscious. I also get kidney stones regularly due to a condition I had growing up....so, until my doctors see that my demeanor is relatively similar even when experiencing a confirmed kidney stone, they tend to doubt me. Once my doctors get to know me, they tend to realize I just have a naturally "lazy" styled personality and finally begin to believe me. Anyway, because of this, my newer PCP *finally* decided to x-ray my hip area (took 20 years to get someone to x-ray my hip instead of my back, go figure.) The results said they recognize signs of calcification and the appearance of pincer hip impingement and referred me to an ortho. On the first ortho visit, the guy literally looks at my x-rays and says "oh yeah, I see the bony protrusion" (exact words). And ordered an arthogram MRI (but no contrast intravenously). I went back today, and now, not only does he tell me there was NOTHING wrong on my MRI (muscles and tendons fine, cartilage fine, bones fine, etc) , he now tells me there's NO sign of impingement. Um? Ok? How do you see impingement on my xray one week, then the next you literally tell me I don't have it bc the MRI says so? The BONE changed? You can't be serious. Anyway, I was devastated. I mean, glad they didn't find anything, but devastated that I'm back to square one. Although, he did tell me they found I may have a "diverted uterus" and "may have trouble getting pregnant" because of it...so, definitely didn't expect that from my ortho today. He said he would refer me to the surgeon (who does their hip arthroscopes) for a second opinion...so, I told him I want him to do that...but, is there any point? What are the odds the surgeon will still want to do a scope with a clean MRI? I have a $2k deductible and a $4k OOP maximum. I'm not going through all of this for fun. Obviously I'm serious, and not crazy. But, I feel like I'm in some kind of sick ongoing joke. I don't know where to go or what to do from here. Any advice at all? Is there ANYTHING else this could be? Without being too much TMI, you should know that this condition ruins intercourse. I've LITERALLY kicked partners off of me and onto the floor as a result of the intense "locking/pinching" in my groin and hip socket pain due to the extension of the leg. It was a funny story to tell at first, but I assure you it's no longer funny. Please help.

     
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    Old 09-23-2016, 02:30 PM   #2
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    Go see the hip specialist. One of my hip MRIs was read as negative but the specialist could see that the labrum was not normal. When he did the scope I had a tear.

     
    Old 09-23-2016, 09:02 PM   #3
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    Hi
    Sorry to hear that you are in a lot of pain. Firstly let me tell that MRI's and X-rays are total crap. They can show all kinds of things, or nothing at all. The only thing that tells the truth 100% of the time is the body. If you are in pain there is something happening.
    In my opinion the pain you are describing is most likely a lumbar radiculopathy. I would say that the hip thing from your past is unrelated.
    Nerve pain does not get touched by even the big boy drugs, (dilaudid, morphine) so your stuff has NO chance of touching it.
    Can you tell me what you did at PT for your sciatica, back pain etc?

     
    Old 09-23-2016, 09:05 PM   #4
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    Hi thank you very much for the reply...the PT was for the herniated discs

     
    Old 09-23-2016, 09:24 PM   #5
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    Ok but can you tell me what you or they did for your PT sessions?

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 11:33 AM   #6
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    Mostly slow hamstring stretches, walking on treadmill, yoga ball exercises...they used tens machines but they did nothing. That's honestly all my PT really consisted of. T

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 11:40 AM   #7
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    I am sorry so that THAT is what you experienced as PT. It is disgusting. What they gave you is total crap! (Filtered so I did not get flagged).
    The worst part is that those hamstring stretches are typically the worst thing to do. Stim is a bunch of bull as well. Its sensory distraction. Covers symptoms, does treat not the cause. Last but not least ball exercise for core strengthening a bunch of junk too. It makes me so mad!

    Ok lets figure this out. Can you tell me a few things that make your pain worse? for example what affect does sitting short or long have, standing, walking, bending forward, time of day, driving, laying down. Anything that changes you symptoms for better or worse, let me know what does what

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 11:45 AM   #8
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    Thanks so much for sharing my frustration! Lol. YES, hamstring stretches ALWAYS cause my flare ups, to where I can hardly walk and have to go get a shot, a steroid pack, naproxen, and pain pills to clear it up and it usually takes a week. It's horrible! Pretty much everything makes it worse. Extending my leg outward in the slightest is the WORST, but sitting and lying down make the ache SO MUCH WORSE I just wanna chop my entire leg off. I actually feel okay walking, so long as there's no incline. I definitely can't put my weight on my leg leg without standing, I'm basically walking on eggshells at all times to prevent pain and ache

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 12:04 PM   #9
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    OK. A few more questions.
    In standing take note of what you pain level is and where
    What happens when you bend forward like you are going to touch your toes?
    Do a few to get a clear answer? Does the pain move, increase, decrease, return to baseline etc.

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 12:07 PM   #10
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    Oh I definitely can't touch my toes...bending forward doesn't so much hurt my hip, but it feels like whatever is connecting my lower back to my butt is going to snap in half! It's the worst! I can only bend MAYBE 15% of the war forward at all toward my toes!

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 12:14 PM   #11
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    Does it change if you do like 10 of them or is it the same everytime you do it and back to baseline symptoms afterwards

     
    Old 09-24-2016, 12:23 PM   #12
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    Oh it's the same...like, if I were smarter I might know what the name of the muscles are, but I have no idea what it is that connects there but literally every time I bend forward, it feels like it's going to rip right in half. No matter how often I do it. And if I do ity TOO many times, it'll fell back to baseline for the rest of the day but the next day is when I'll need that shot and steroid pack. It's so miserable.

     
    Old 10-27-2016, 08:25 PM   #13
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    Re: Impingement magically disappear from images?

    I would definitely get a second opinion. Go see a sports medicine orthopaedic surgeon. They specialize in athletic injuries, which is the area the fai fits into. I have a cam impingment with labels tear also. I am scheduled for surgery in December. I am no athlete, so I thought it was funny to be referred there. The pain from this is no joke and you shouldn't have to just live with it.

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