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    Old 07-12-2015, 11:00 AM   #16
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Thank you, mate - you've been of great help. If I can bother you with more thing, are you aware if such tightness around waist/abs is specific for MS, or it can occur with bad posture/waist/spine problems or anything of the like, and if my case of tightness feels like MS hug? I never feel out of breath with it, it has never been up around the chest, should I be thinking that it has more to do with my waist problems? Thanks again.

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    Old 07-12-2015, 11:33 AM   #17
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Vasoka,

    No worries,

    Based on my personal experiences, my waist tightness has never been MS related. I have had nerve pain in my lower back down through my left leg which was MS related, but never a hug. My MS hug has been from my diaphragm and mid-thoracic region. It has never moved into my abdominal region.

    Now, from the textbook, as with most MS symptoms, the sensation is different for each person. Pain may be felt under your rib cage, or show up anywhere between your neck and waistline. The feeling can be dull and achy, sharp, or burning. It can last a few seconds to a few hours, and in rare cases, a few days. Some people describe a slight tingling or tickling vibration, while others describe a crippling pressure below the rib cage that may make breathing uncomfortable.

    As you can see, some MSers have had the feeling as low as their waistline. Two other "MS HUG" causes can also occur in people with other rib and spinal cord conditions. The latter could be your issue, but this would be my non-medical opinion. When the MS Hug first presents, lungs and gall bladder are often given a check to make sure these are healthy. None of the aforementioned would appear to be related to heat intolerance.

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    Old 07-12-2015, 12:09 PM   #18
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    I see, but is it certain that such tightness/tingling in abdominal muscles and waist are actually "the" MS hug, or can it be spasms or anything of the sort? I reckon people develope different sensations due to different reasons, if you have sprained a muscle, sat too much and what not. I am wondering if such sensations are "always" classified as the ms hug, or can they have other explanations. Thanks!

     
    Old 07-12-2015, 01:47 PM   #19
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Vasoka,

    The "hug" is like a girdle or corset wrapped around you and squeezing. (Python or anaconda too ) It does not come and go but remains with you for 24+ hours. Muscle spasms can strike in a similar way, but are less of a girdle effect, I think. Another check would be some OTC/non-prescription anti-inflammatory meds such as Naproxem Sodium (generic) or ibuprofen (generic). There are several brand names, but the generic are cheaper and would do the same. If you get relief from theses OTCs, then it is more than likely muscle related. Do not use the OTC relief long term. My GP sent me to a license masseuse. It took me three visits, but they were able to fix my muscle problem. Again, this waist problem for me was due to a poor car seat and was not related to my MS. I did not get any OTC relief. My experience with the muscle problem was nothing like my MS Hug. When my MS worsened in 2002, the weakened muscles in my back caused my posture to change which caused a cascade of muscle problems. I walked with forearm crutches and was in a power chair for some time as my back needed rest to recover. Massage is now no longer recommended for MSers, but I did recover. Again, this experience in 2002 was nothing like my MS Hugs.
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    Old 07-12-2015, 03:19 PM   #20
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    The MS "Hug" is muscle spasms of the intercostal muscles.

    The intercostal muscles are muscle groups that are situated in between the ribs that create and move the chest wall.

    This is not specific to MS. There is no symptom(s) specific to Multiple Sclerosis.

     
    Old 07-12-2015, 03:57 PM   #21
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

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    Massage is now no longer recommended for MSers.

    MSJayhawk, I don't know who told you massage therapy is not recommended for those with MS but it's not true.

    Massage therapy can be used for those with MS and many find relief with massage therapy. I myself am in Physical Therapy and massage therapy is also being used. Massage therapy can be helpful for spasticity.

    If massage therapy helped you at one time I would suggest you look into it...if you're interested.

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    Old 07-12-2015, 07:29 PM   #22
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Snoopy,

    My MS Specialist and many other MS doctors do not recommend it due to the potential affect on damaged nerves. There are Masseuses who can work with MSers, but many will not. There are two schools near me which no longer accept MSers as well as a few other patients. If I had a qualified masseuse, I would clear it with my doctor and then make an appointment
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    Old 07-13-2015, 07:38 AM   #23
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Well, from all I've gathered from several topics on MS forums and the like, my problem is most likely not MS, but anxiety mixed with sedentary lifestyle - I will try to see PT and go from there, maybe I can get some exercises to get my spine back in shape. Thank you all for your answers, wish you a lot of health!

     
    Old 07-14-2015, 05:24 AM   #24
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Hello, sorry to bother you again - but yesterday in the night i had a very weird case of a less than a minute sharp pain under my right ribcage and the back on the right side, more or less the entire right side of the torso.. it's the first time I got something like that, and it was very short. Does this sound like it can be connected to a MS hug of sorts? Thanks.

     
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Hello Vasoka,

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    Does this sound like it can be connected to a MS hug of sorts?
    By your description I would have to say no, it doesn't sound like what is referred to as the MS hug.

    The MS Hug is caused my muscle spasms of the intercostal muscles and produces a squeezing sensation as if you had a tight rubber band around your chest.

     
    Old 07-14-2015, 09:43 AM   #26
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    Re: MS symptoms, don't know what to do

    Vasoka,

    I agree with Snoopy. Though your pain appears to be higher, an MS Hug does not strike and disappear quickly. It persists for a longer time. If your lower back muscles are still bothering you, the muscle problems can travel upwards. This happened to me when I had the lower back problems. The muscles knotted in my lower back and moved upward. I do not know if this is your situation, but a licensed masseuse or PT could really help your situation.
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