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    Old 10-16-2014, 04:55 AM   #1
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    Anxiety ms worry

    Someone please help I know I have anxiety but very recently I have been showing physical symptoms of Ms IE visible leg twitch(two weeks non stop)
    Hoarse voice. Tingly face tingly fingers wet feeling in left leg. Dr has agreed for me to see a neurologist but the worry is proving to much to bare. Please help
    I am totally convinced I have Ms, oh sorry I forgot the horrid ringing in my ears.

     
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    Old 10-16-2014, 01:02 PM   #2
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Shaun1978,

    Welcome.

    If you have anxiety, it can mimic MS. An MS Specialist should give you a check, but you might need to be treated for your anxiety issues first and then see if your symptoms disappear.

    There are over 400 MS mimicries and most are entirely treatable. You should lay aside your fears because those things you shared can easily be attributed to anxiety. You should also get your vitamin and mineral levels checked. A vitamin D deficiency can mimic MS.

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    Old 10-17-2014, 03:02 AM   #3
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Since the symptoms you listed could be anything- and things like a horse voice and visable twitching of the legs ARE NOT MS symptoms, Id say lay your anxiety aside and get to a neurologist and get an opinion. There is a 1:400 chance you do NOT have MS...ok?

    Please know that anxiety itself is a disease. And its treatable...or at least manageable....if you look for some help, its available.

    I hope you feel better soon.
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    Old 10-17-2014, 06:00 AM   #4
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Thank you so much for taking time to reply I have vitamin deficiency blood tests and all is fine my latest blood test was a c reactive protein test my dr said this would show Ms but apparently there is no blood test for Ms. The twitching itself is driving me stupid ��

     
    Old 10-17-2014, 06:09 AM   #5
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    Oh sorry I forgot to add I was under the impression Ms stmptoms did consist of twitching leg muscles (only one leg not bilateral) and gravely voice as your larynx is a muscle too. I didn't want to go into detail about other symptoms incase everyone got bored of reading, but my further symptoms include tingly face and lips, headaches, tingly fingers, numb big toe( on affected twitching leg) and as for the ear ringing that gets worse daily.

     
    Old 10-17-2014, 08:23 AM   #6
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

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    Oh sorry I forgot to add I was under the impression Ms stmptoms did consist of twitching leg muscles (only one leg not bilateral) and gravely voice as your larynx is a muscle too. I didn't want to go into detail about other symptoms incase everyone got bored of reading, but my further symptoms include tingly face and lips, headaches, tingly fingers, numb big toe( on affected twitching leg) and as for the ear ringing that gets worse daily.
    I have never had a hoarse voice due to MS directly, but indirectly though MS caused swallowing and coughing issues. As to the twitching, the longer the twitching, the more likely it could fall into the MS or MS like zone. I get twitches, vibrations, and tremors in my legs, but more on my left side, but at tomes both.

    This said, based upon what you have shared, I would still see anxiety as the main cause but with the note that anxiety can also accompany MS. With over 400 known mimicries, give the doctor time to eliminate certain things which can be eliminated. The result will get you to an answer sooner. You will likely need to get your anxiety under control and then see if you have continuing symptoms.

    Try to avoid Dr. Internet and DIY medical diagnosis information. MS will often be a "catch all" and it only causes needless worry and anxiety for most.

    There is no blood test NOR any other test that can definitively diagnose you with MS. A symptom journal might help shed some light on your situation. An MS diagnosis should follow the Revised McDonald Criteria. You can find this criteria online.

    I am not dismissing your situation, but a doctor needs to properly examine you to determine your situation.
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    Old 10-17-2014, 08:36 AM   #7
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Hi Shaun1978,

    You are correct, that twitching could be a MS symptom as can tingling, abnormal sensations and many other things.

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    I was under the impression Ms stmptoms did consist of twitching leg muscles (only one leg not bilateral) and gravely voice as your larynx is a muscle too.
    However, the cause is not a problem with the muscles.

    Multiple Sclerosis is a disease of the Central Nervous System(CNS). The protective coating surrounding the nerves (Myelin) is damaged thus creating a "short circuit" with our wiring (nerves).

    The problem is, there is no symptom unique to Multiple Sclerosis. There are numerous other causes to the exact same symptoms as those seen in MS. Other reasons for symptoms can be due to other diseases/conditions, vitamin/mineral deficiencies, some medications, and mental health problems.

    If you take any medications you may want to research side effects. If your medication side effects match the symptoms you are having please speak to your prescribing DR.

    If you are not being treated for anxiety then please speak with your Physician. Sometimes treating anxiety can resolve symptoms. It would be so much easier to find out symptoms are due to anxiety than something like MS

    Take care.

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    Old 10-17-2014, 09:39 AM   #8
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Thanks so very much guys with reference to the twitch! It's very small but noticeable and painful my biggest worry with it is the fact that it hasn't stopped at all for 2 weeks I can't help but worry about it but never the less thank you all so much.

     
    Old 10-17-2014, 02:47 PM   #9
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Shaun,
    Ive had MS for a decade now and have never had a muscle twitch! ALthough MS is a variable disease and differnt for everyone, a few things remain the same. MS isnt a muscle disease. As Snoopy explained, its a nerve disorder caused by short circuits of the nerves (damage to the protective coating of the nerves) which can trigger all sorts of things depending on where the nerve which is damaged is located...

    Im hearing that you are looking up symptoms...are you? Thats probably not a good idea. Sounds like you migth be using the internet backwards. Symptom checkers are for when you have a diagnosis, to see what the symptoms are. If you look for a diagnosis by listing your symptoms youve got a 99% chance that youll get the wrong answer. The most commonly looked up diseases will always come up first. With your anxiety being a threat, all you are going to do is make yourself more anxious. Please avoid the internet for answers - and speak directly to your doctor! It may be something as simple as a med change which can get you back to feeling good again.

    You are correct that there is no blood test for MS- the first test is usually a MRI, looking for damage to the central nervous system...but in order to get that, youll need to present with MS like symptoms- and your list of symptoms is so broad, they wouldnt be specific to MS. If you are still needing a more thorough opinion, seek out a MS specialist, and be prepared for a host of tests, which will get you closer to knowing if MS is a consideration or not.....but please know upfront that these tests are lengthy and seeing a MS specialist is usually a fairly long wait time- and none of this is an overnight fix.....youre better off talking to your primary physician and seeing if they can run some labs and look for some more common things to rule out.

    I hope you feel better soon. Do yourself a really big favor and try exercising- that might help the muscles. Stay hydrated as dehydration can cause muscle twitches- and get your potassium and other blood levels checked.
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    Old 10-19-2014, 10:24 AM   #10
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    Re: Anxiety ms worry

    Guys thank you all for your support but I'm at my wits end! I have to wait months for neurologist appt but I'm not sure I can cope that long, I have 3 children and I'm losing out on quality time with them the twitch and the pain won't go away! I feel like my time is up and it's just a matter of time before inevitable dx. But I must admit I'm moving from Ms now and moving on to als. I'm a semi pro singer and can't even concentrate on stage anymore. ����

     
    Old 10-19-2014, 12:45 PM   #11
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    Shaun,

    ALS has a specific test. Ask your doctor as it is something screened out quite early. Your anxiety problems are as real as anything you can touch. Anxiety can be treated and you do not have to wait for months to see the doctor. Meanwhile, have your regular doctor run tests which can speed up the time to diagnosis when you see the MS Specialist. Skipping MS and deciding it is ALS only makes your thoughts target something terminal. MS is not terminal, it is chronic.

    As to quality time with kids, make time. I have hidden my pain for years from my children as it is my burden, cannot be treated, and I will not let it control my daily life.

    You can also look at a low impact exercise which can help you physically and with the anxiety too. Look for a way to remove the anxiety triggers. Look at your own personal history. You are a singer? Over exercising the vocal cords leads to hoarseness. Cannot concentrate on stage? This is something you need to look within yourself to obtain an answer. If you have anxiety, it came before the twitching. The twitching is merely an indication of your losing ground to whatever triggered your anxiety. This is, however, entirely treatable.

    At the top of this page under the Health Centers tab, you will find Anxiety. I would encourage you to look there too. While it will take time to see the right doctor, taking proactive steps now may resolve your ongoing issues and resolve all your concerns. If you do get to felling better, keep your appointment so that you can see the specialist and lay your fears aside and get back to living.
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    Old 10-19-2014, 12:57 PM   #12
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    Wow you guys are an inspiration to accually be living with the illness i so dearly fear re:anxiety I simply do not believe it can cause such a permanent physical symptom twitching daily and constant pain/heaviness in one limb I surely hope so but at this moment in time I'm not convinced

     
    Old 10-19-2014, 02:03 PM   #13
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    Shaun,

    I have seen people literally crippled by anxiety. It is often dismissed, but the percentage is statistically significant. I thought that when my MS really worsened and my legs were failing that I had or could have ALS. My doctor told me that my tests were negative and that she screened for that initially. Though you may not believe it at this moment in your journey, anxiety is as real as any other malady. There is, unfortunately, a stigma often placed upon anxiety. Anxiety can be part of the MS journey or a standalone problem. It is, however, entirely treatable and you need not put it off because untreated, it will worsen and cause other symptoms or can cause other symptoms to present.

    It does not cause permanent disability because the effects are reversible. MS can cause permanent as well as temporary problems. Lay your burdens upon the doctor, start a treatment that works for you, and get back into the journey. Those with anxiety respond well to meds, oral counseling, or a combination thereof. Allow the doctors to find what works for you. While you are being treated, keep a journal and track yourself. Could you have MS? Yes. Either way, you are not terminal.

    If you were to see a specialist tomorrow, they would likely treat your anxiety as it can obscure symptoms. Anxiety is a known MS mimicry. After 3-6 months of treatment, the specialist can see a clearer picture of your situation.
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    Old 10-19-2014, 02:15 PM   #14
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    The passion and drive you guys show is unreal, I was under the impression that a Ms dx was a life sentence but apparently not!! I will do my best to overcome this **** but I won't sugar coat the fact that its incredibly hard.

     
    Old 10-19-2014, 03:29 PM   #15
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    Shaun,
    MS is anything but a life sentence. Ive had it for 10 years. During that time Ive raised 3 kids, gone to school and gotten 2 bachelors, a masters and a Doctoral degree. I have gotten 9 promotions in the past 7 years and manage a team of over 100 people across the globe. I travel both nationally and internationally. I own a home and have a family- and MS is nothing more than a hindrance on most days. It was more of a problem when I was talking the disease modifying drugs which included sticking needles in myself 3 times a week....now that I no longer do that, Its alot easier.

    As I have stated numerous times- MS is very individualized. For some people, it can be more of a problem than for others; however what you are describing isnt MS related. IT honestly sounds like anxiety related and this is very real too. As Jayhawk told you, people can be crippled by anxiety when they dont have a handle on it. Fortunately, MS doesnt do that to people! Id rather have MS than 10000 other diseases or disorders. You really need to see a specialist who can help you overcome your anxiety issues- or get them under control. For you to be thinking you have ALS is so far of a stretch - that, is a disease which would have taken you to the ER by now- and the test is very simple. Youd know if you had ALS.

    SO, think about how you are going to get this anxiety under control. If you are being seen by someone, you should give them a call and talk to them about possibly adjusting your meds- or starting a new one- if you arent seeing anyone for this, you need to talk to your primary doctor about what he or she thinks- and who they would suggest you see.

    We are here for you....but please know, MS is a very liveable disease!
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