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    Old 08-18-2010, 04:55 AM   #1
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    Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    Hi all I've been off work for 3 weeks now i've been to see 2 doctors who both say i have Ulnar Neuropathy pins & needles in little finger & ring finger also at my elbow it spasming I've also been having a pain which feels like its at the back of my left shoulder blade area.

    I have put me on Anti-Inflammatories which don't seem to be helping i've been told to rest which also doesn't seem to be doing much.After going back doctors as i'm having trouble sleeping he's put me on Antidepressants which alarmed me a little is this right???

    Also the docs are arranging for tests to be done on my arm. Does anybody have any experience of this?? how long does it take to get better? As i've a physical job warehouseman i've been put on the sick for a month but i want to get back work asap

     
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    Hi i been going though a lot of muscle twiching in my body for seven weeks. Now a couple of days ago i started having pins in needles in my left hand. I had pins in needles for over 6 hours on one day the second day i had it over four hours. It was driving me nuts because i am also left handed and i could not hold onto things in my hand. I am waiting to see my doctor to see if it goes worse. hope you are able to work soon as possible when you feel better.

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    Old 08-22-2010, 10:28 AM   #3
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    the mere fact that your other symptoms also include actual muscle spasming would seriously indicate the NEED to at least have an MRI done on your c spine to check and see if anything IS simply impinging that c 8/ulnar nerve from THAT level where it actually starts? along with whatever actual c spine nerve even 'holds" the motor or fine motor function to THAT specific area? ther thing about that c spine that is very much different than any of the levels below it in the spinal is while the T on down levels of the spinal actually have "pairs" of nerves at each and every level that one carries the motor and one carries the sensory innervation, at the c spine on up to c 1, you only havbe one single nerve on each side that is a dual or multi nerve that not only carry your sensory, but they also carry another nerves fine motor functions too. the two innervations do NOT use the same nerve at all but other c spine nerves to innervate fine motor function up there.

    i KNOW this sounds very confusing, it did to me too when i was simply trying to research my own damage? but if you simply look up what is called the "brachial plexus' or even peripheral innervation, you can see what i am talking about. its just a whole different thing when you get into that c spine level when innervation is invlolved.

    but this could be an ulnar sensory issue along with another c spine nerve issue that could be actually creating the spasming of that muscle, or it could just be a sort of inflammatory type of real ulnar nerve reaction too? thats where the c spine MRI would seriously help you here to better define and confirm or deny the already placed upon you dx by the docs you have seen? trust me here when i say, depending upon how familiar any given 'specialist' just 'is' with whatever it is you happen to have wrong, and what they have actually seen in their own practices along the way/years, very MUCH can dictate ANY real Dx they simply 'feel" you may have? it could be a completely different Dx depending upon having the "appropriate" testing simply done and the right type of neurosurgeon giving you his or her very highly experienced 'impressions" of what they "feel" your issues actually are too.

    doing that c spine level MRI would simply show alot about what is or is not going on up there that even could possibly create this? and it would rule something in or out too. and doing one EMG/NCV study as well would help to best pinpoint what areas are seeing some velocity changes which would indicate the 'whys' in what you are experiencing? this can also, if they actually start this test from your c spine on down that entire arm, pinpoint the actual areas that are being impacted and exactly where too. but i would most definitely see about that MRI and esp that EMG for the best possible info on your c spine nerves right now and what is generating what and where exactly. also the mere fact that you really do "feel' anything at all in that back of your blade area DOES really sound very much like that c 8 or T 1 level IS being impacted by 'something/ so getting that MRIed really would be what i personally would just push like heck for to do asap before anything else? i just happen to have extensive involvement of my own c 8 and t 1 areas right now with some of the same exact types of symptoms in the same exact places too. so DO get that MRI done to 'see' what is simply 'there" impacting your ulnar/c8 and possibly the t 1 nerves too? good luck with this and DO please keep me posted. but push either doc to just get that good in depth LOOK at your c spine with MRI more than anything else at this point. the mere fact that scapula is actually involved at all does indicate c spine or t 1 involvement as the most 'likely' cause of all your symptoms actually. just push for what you KNOW you need. good luck, marcia
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    Old 08-22-2010, 02:47 PM   #4
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    Totally agree with Feelbad. That's what caused my ulnar nerve neuropathy. I didn't have neck pain. The cervical area needs to be checked out.
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    Old 08-24-2010, 08:01 PM   #5
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    I have a old fracture in my c6 c7 in my neck not sure if that is causing me to loose my balance and my legs to gave out with no warning a couple of weeks ago. i have been also having pins needles in my left hand wish is not going away. I had a mri already but my doctor messed up on the test. I will maybe need to get a other mri if i don't get better. Now i hurt my neck again in the same place and i am having pins needles in both hands now wish is new. hope that i didn't hurt that area again that would be very bad if i did.

     
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    I urge you to get it checked again. I also had gait issues and balance problems, causing falls caused by the cervical compression.
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    Old 08-25-2010, 06:47 AM   #7
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    hey stone? forgeot to address the anti D thing here? exactly what DID your doc actually place you on? some neuro type of pain can and does actually respond to only certain anti Ds, so getting that particular med Rxed would not actually mean he thinks you are suffering from depresssion, tho just trust me here when i say that in simply going thru what is involved with trying to actually Dx where symptoms are coming from and the overall impoact on YOU and how your life changes at least for a while, CAN create some level of very real depression, along with in some people a certain level of anxiety too? it just has that potential, but actually trying to see what just 'may' actually help with the more out of the box type of pain you are having that does not really always respond to only narcotics really well? but we have not yet heard any real responses from you stone? how are you doing here with the newer info?

    minstrel is RIGHT becky, our abilities with gait, balanace and even our vision ARE all governed betwen the signals sent up and down to and from the cerebellum within that back of the brain thru what is called the spinocerebellar tract? this area IS damaged in my cord from a surgery done on that left posteriolateral area of my actual cord? and believe me, it CAN create some big issues in the functions you have already mentioned? the mere fact that you even DID suffer ANY level of real fracture before(how long ago was that fracture and how bad) would dictate a very real need for a closer look just given your symptoms being what they are right now at all(many many spinal issues simply ARE progressive in nature if not 'fixed' when they are identified properly)? just how DID your doc actually screw up your MRI for you and how long ago was that done? how did that fracture actually occur?

    the only other possibbility to really explain your symptoms, having to actually do with spinal really would be the lumbar area within the lower spinal? or certain meds seriously CAN mess with the areas you mentioned too(lyrica is a really bad one for creating what YOU are actually experiencing? it hit ME that way anyways. only BECAUSE THAT particular med really DOES do 'its work' within that cerebellum? it exascerbated the heck out of my more up til then "subtle' ongoing symptoms like you are having with the legs)? there just ARE alot of meds out there, mostly the NON narcotic ones used to try and calm down angry nerves that have the very real potential for creating some really insane types of symptoms solely depending upon how YOUR body/brain and physiology gets impacted by them.

    you can also ALWAYS have a certain level of spinal issues and not have a real clue yet that they even exist only because they have not yet created PAIN, but ARE showing signs at least of motor involvement? this is how MY lumbar just is right now too? i actually had/have an annular tear with heavy left sided stenosis way down at L 4-5 and did not have a clue it was even there ONLY becasue at that time when it simply "showed up' upon a full spinal MRI i needed, it was not yet symptomatic(i seriously was totally shocked that that finding was even there since it was just NOT at all being 'felt" by me then in any way shape or form yet)? now it has started this past year like 'maybe' four or five times, but was found back in 2002? ya just never know anything really til you get a good look inside right now?

    but you really DO need a better c spine MRI if ANYTHING actually impacted the results of your other MRI and depending upon just now long ago it was too(the newer the better, esp if it has been more than one year)? you just ARE having very real symptoms hon that need to be IDed as to where they are being generated from and the areas of involvement/impact. since you also just DO have a history of fracture, the NEED is even higher there now too ya know(esp now trying an MRI with a contrasting agent too for the best look at whats there?)? there just 'is' something that is impacting you and creating these ongoing symptoms that sounds VERY much like c spine related. and there is also as in my situation a very real possibility that any other parts of our spinal also can become impacted, herniated, tears appear, bulges or stenosis impacting nerve roots too further down BELOW the level you already just KNOW you have had issues too, so do NOT forget THAT part? are you currently on ANY meds at all becky? Marcia
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    Old 08-25-2010, 06:06 PM   #8
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    I had fallen last year off my bed at night hitting my back of my neck on the base board the day after i was in a lot of pain around where i fell . I found out about six weeks after that i had a fracture of my c6 and c7 wish i later found out that part of the bone broke off and was near my other bone. I found out from my dad that my doctor did the mri on my neck on 8/17 wish was ok but now i am having more medical issues with my neck now i hurt my neck again on friday of last week and right after i had a bad headache. I been having a burning feeling in my head plus having pins needles in both hands now. I don't under stand why this is going on right now. I keep loosing my balance and having really bad headaches vision affected and my doctor think that it might be my meds that i am on for my migraine headaches i will not know if it is my meds for two weeks. Not looking foward to waiting that long to find out.

     
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    the one definite thing you simply NEED to do right now becky is actually obtain your very OWN copy of that most recent MRI report that was done on you? trust me here when i say that most, esp specialists will not even bother to actually even tell the flippin patient about everything that is even found in any given rad report? it is ONLY what 'they feel" is more pertinent to what may be going on, but when there simply is a doc with no real experience in dealing with what YOU just have wrong, the 'pertinent' stuff is wayyy off too kinda thing? i always, always obtain all reports from ANY actual testing i have done and have also done this for my son since 1999-2000(and still doing it) when he was originally Dxed with being in total liver failure(did NOT have a freaking clue he was even sick) and his tx that took place in june 2000,just so I HAVE all his testing results and those very important in that type of situation lab reports done too?we both have our own lil nice expanding types of folders that all the stuff is put into,then that folder is brought to every appt we have too since ya just never know what may be needed or you have to try and reacll at any given appt? its all right there in THAT one lil folder and sooo freaking handy.

    just having our own reports from like anything tested just allows US, the actual patients to have our own copies in our own files to read, to research if needed among other handy things. i have also found that this seriously just IS the very best way to try and even stay on top of all things needed or medical related too? but simply getting that latest MRI report and if you could, actually type out what was in the very last page in what is the "summary" would help ME also to try and help you to figure out at least some of your findings that would have had to have shown something simply given your symptoms? we all simply DO have every right to copies of not only our test reports, but also all medical records that every doc we actually see who has to by law make what are called 'clinic notes' after every single visit we have with them too? all the clinic nores from primary docs ARE availiable by simply requesting them and filling out one release of information sheet that is actually "good' for one full year(has to be done tho for each seperate doc you are seeing)? with specialists, all you really get when you request any of your records from them, really is only the 'progress reports" that are generated after each visit and just sent to usually your primary doc or to whoever actually did the referral to that specific specialist. but it IS info on YOU and their 'impressions' of your situation and how you are doing too? and is all done the very same way with any specialists you may see too, with a simple request for your records and filling out that one release of info sheet?

    but just considering your current symptoms, you really DO need to find out what was actually found in that MRI report as 'hard findings" listed in that summary and possibly seek out a consult/eval from a really good neurosurgeon just to see what any options actually are for you with this? since this just was done(the MRI) it should at the very least show what could be impacted in there from the fracture or even other possible crappy stuff that can simply just 'be" in our c spines down to the nerve root and cord levels too? forgive me if you mnetioned this on the previous page hon, my brain is slowly goin here along with my body,lol. but what DID your doc have to say after he saw your MRI report and did he refer you off to ANY type of specialist at all? simply even having any level of real 'fracture" within our spinal IS a place that is NOT actually really 'stable" til it hopefully will 'fuse" and fix itself, but there just is the need here to make darn certain that everything having to do with that fracture site is even aligned up exactly perfectly or it will not heal within the proper alignment, and could even 'fuse" over or include an actual nerve root within that area and would fuse with that actually included "in it" somehow? that is NOT something you want to have happen with ANY actual nerve root? just even having that area fractured and over time, that just in and of itself, depending upon where and how bad it is, can create issues for you probably later vs sooner depending upon your age?

    but just popping in to the spinal boards down below here in that "S" section, trust me here, there ARE other people there too who are dealing with more of the same types of ongoing symptoms that you are also displaying? this board really is for anyone who has any level of more c spine related crap going on too, not 'just" the strange and insane world of 'spinal weirdness that is possible? while the back boards kind of cover anything from the T spine on down, for some reason, people with the c spine level crap, all seem to end up IN that spinal board area. i DO pop in there alot only because of all my crap i have been thru with MY two c spine surgeries done from the front, and my actual surgery done into my spinal cord from the back, which trust me is ten times worse as far as what you get left to deal with than any anterior approach surgery where they do not have to cut thru alot of very thick muscle? my back of my c spine and of course those 'inner' contents are sooo much worse now than i could have ever imagined before. i just had my most recent MRI on monday and am awaiting what i do NOT want to actually know about from my doc right now too.

    but try looking thru some of the threads on that spinal board bec. it really will show you alot about how YOUR symptoms simply do compare to ALOT of others who also post there? much much moreso than you will ever find here in just the neuropathy board would? and DO obtain that copy of the MRI report hon so you have it, and can also post that summary for me here too? and this just really has to also be as the rad wrote it word for word too, since how any given finding is worded in many cases just DOES actually matter with this stuff, much more than i originally assumed way back at my very first MRI in 2001? i have now as of mon had a total of 19? MRIs done mostly on my c spine.just knowing what was in that report will seriously help me to help you and also allow other very experienced people who also post in that spinal board to see it too? so DO post that MRI IN that board when you get your hands on it bec, K? the people there on that spinal board ARE the ones you WANT to obtain advice and their opinions on this too, trust me there. hopefully we can help you with this and get you to the right places for the best type of help here too hon. Marcia
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

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    question for you i been also having burning sensation in the nerves in my head i can feel it burning a lot. Lately the burning sensation has been catching me off guard it hurts so much sometimes that i can't think at all when i had it. I been having that feeling almost 2 weeks now. I am really not sure if i have nerve damage some where in my head. Please let me know what i should do for this issue please and thank you

     
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    just exactly where is this burning located hon? and be as specific as possible? there can be a few different reasons for feeling that type of i am assuming "deeper" burning, or does this feel more like a surfacey type of pain or even a sting, like a sunburn feels? there just ARE many different "types of what anyone would desacribe as a 'burn" too? things just can get rather complicated when any nerves are involved?

    this could be the nerves themselves or it can also be the nerves and how they simply can fire off too muscle too? getting an appt, depending upon just what your MRI states(really need to see that summary bec)with either a good neurologist or neurosurgeon(the 'specialist" you decide to see really depends more upon the actual MRI findings right now?)to simply have all your ongoing symptoms(and the hands on neuro eval any good neuro just does toc check for YOUR bodies responses to certain types of testing) and the MRI all together in an eval/consult really would be the best way to at least get things rolling here hon. but seeing what was in that MRI report really would help me to help you in the very best ways right now, esp who you should be seeing.

    also, depending upon exactly where the burning is showing itself can kind of tell whther this is a muscle thing or a nerve thing itself? muscles/tendon also tend to burn when they have been damaged too, so its not all that easy to simply pinpoint "the" reason without being evaled by at the very least, the neurologist. but if you have deeper findings or particular/certain ones, thats when a neurosurgeon who simply has more in depth knowledge and understanding of the more inner you up there may be needed?

    just what did YOUR doc have to say about the MRI findings and what did you mean when you mentioned in a previous post that the "doc messed up your MRI"? what DID he actually do? marcia
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    The burning pain is on my right side of my head and left side now. It's a deeper feeling burning pain it's not a sunburn type pain that i have. when i move my fingers on my left hand and right hand i can feel the nerve moving on my right side of my head and that is the one that has been burning so much. When that area starts to burn it i want to hell and i really am not sure why i this is going on i have never had this issue before. The doctor that i see is a neurologist she is really nice when i got the first results from her she said that my mri of my head was ok but .. then i found out from my dad that it the right results where not my head but it was my neck that i had the mri on. My doctor told my dad the right results and she didn't tell me the that she gave me the wrong results that i thought i had the right one so now i am upset with my doctor for not telling me the correct results .

     
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    Re: Ulnar Nerve Pain advice

    I had a Brachial Plexus Avulsion the ulnar nerve drove me crazy with pain while it healed. Lyrica was a lifesaver for me.

     
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    I have had pain from the ulnar nerve - I just started Lyrica and its helping. I refused oxycodone due to its side effects.

     
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