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    Old 08-05-2003, 05:47 PM   #1
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    Unhappy Bad breath has altered my personality

    I apologize for the length of this post***

    I have had bad breath my entire life. My Dental Hygenist says that I take great care of my teeth and my Dentist concurs. I brush regularly and floss daily. I drink lots of water. I have tried all sorts of things from eating nothing but bland, non-offensive foods to not drinking alcohol to eating nothing to every over-the-counter remedy I can find (Breath Assure, Chlorophyll pills, parsley, sprays, mouthwashes, etc.)

    Nothing has ever helped and I started developing negative social mannerisms that alienate me further from people. I will not stand near someone if I can help it & if I have to I try not to speak & I even hold my breath in. I step back during conversations because I believe I can be smelled from 6+ feet away. (I have had things said to me by strangers so it's not just in my head.) I at least make a point to keep something (table, counter, distance) between me and the other person.

    I tried going to a "Breath Clinic" once but they sold me $200 worth of products that didn't work. Even if they did work I would have to constantly use the products throughout the day. I even used a fake name because I was so humiliated.

    I read things like "brush your tongue, floss, do this, do that" & that just adds to my poor self-image. People seem to think that just brushing will solve this but it doesn't. I drink more than I should if I am in certain social situations because either the alcohol keeps me from thinking about it then (less inhibitions) or I reason that maybe the alcohol odor will cover my stench. I know, a horrible way to deal with the problem.

    I don't look at people if they are closer than I can deal with because my mouth would be pointing in that direction.

    I have times that I want to be spontaneous or out-going but I know I stink and know that the more I put myself out there the easier target I am for embarrassment.

    I have always believed that everyone else had something over on me because they could always say "You stink" and I would be devastated.

    I realize that I have chronic post nasal drip (I always thought that drainage was normal) & that could be the culprit. What kind of Dr. do I see for that? An Allergy Dr. or E.N.T.? How does a Dr. go about curing post nasal drip? I have been checking my insurance to find specialists in my plan but which one? (I don't need a referral)

    Has anyone that has had bad breath due to post nasal drip really found a cure? What kind of treatment is there? It has never made a difference when I have used meds be it antihistamines, allergy, sinus, whatever. Is a nasal irrigator useful? How often do you have to use it? Anybody have answers?

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    Old 08-05-2003, 08:08 PM   #2
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    I'm not convinced the post nasal drip is the culprit. It may be stomach problems. You did mention acid reflux. It's common for bad breath to have nothing to do with dental hygiene. The source may be your acid reflux or some other stomach problem. For the post nasal frip you would see an ear, nose and throat specialist. For stomach see a gastro intestinal specialist.Good luck!...Tagger
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    Old 08-06-2003, 02:59 AM   #3
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    As usual, TAGGER has come up with good advice re: acid reflux/stomach issues. This is a common cause of chronic bad breath.

    Simple post nasal drip may not be the problem but the CAUSE of the drip may be...one of which is, you guessed it, acid reflux...and of course there's chronic sinusitis, or inflammation of the respiratory tract (nose, throat, windpipe, lungs)

    Halitosis can also be caused by diabetes, liver or kidney ailments, but since you mention you've suffered with bad breath "all your life" it's unlikely it is any of these, because by now you'd be having other symptoms .

    Again, some kind of digestive disorder is a possibility. Since your dentist has determined that your mouth is healthy, perhaps you should get a complete check-up by your GP or, as Tagger suggested, see either of the two specialists she mentioned....

    Question: In case this is still a local mouth problem, has your dentist ever recommended a specially designed tongue scraper to be used way WAY far back on the tongue? Normal toothbrushing of the tongue isn't the same. This scraper is designed to go much farther back. It takes time and patience to overcome the gagging reflex, but I've heard that it sometimes completely cures the bad breath problem as long as the cause is not digestive or nasal etc.

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    Old 08-07-2003, 01:21 AM   #4
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    hey i am going through the same thing as u. it is destroying my life, at least u can drink alcoholand be okay, me if i take little alcohol or eat pizza, my breath goes for the worst. The smell is most likely coming from ur mouth, do u have a white or yellow coating on ur tongue? Do u get tonsil stones? i looked on the internet about his problem and tryed Therabreath which i thought didnt really work for me, even though many people that say that tryed it say it worked. Right now I am using a product called Tri oral which i think calms the problem, but i dont think it has iliminated my problem. You should try it if u are interested.

     
    Old 08-07-2003, 02:59 PM   #5
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    i have also had really bad breath since i was 9. i am now 27. like you, i wont stand too close to people and often if i have to speak, i pretend to play with my mouth to try and cover the smell. i floss 3 times a day, brush after every meal, brush my tongue and use mouth wash 3 times. recently ive heard about a mouth wash called "retar-dex" and i find it works quite good. its quite expensive to most washes though.
    ive just been diagnosed with acid reflux so maybe that could be my problem but what about when i was 9?
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    Old 08-12-2003, 02:37 PM   #6
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    I am 22, and also have this problem. I tried therabreath which is good at neutralizing VSC's, but the bad breath comes back rather quickly. I just got some trioral last week. It seems to last longer because of the added benefits of zinc ions, but not the 12 hours they claim it to last. I also have post nasal drip, and will often get odor from the nose if I don't keep my throat and mouth lubricated. It's very frustrating. From what I've read, there are no beneficial anaerobic bacteria that inhabit the human body.

    As soon as I get the 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide in the mail, I am going to begin oral hydrogen peroxide therapy, as I believe there might be underlying causes that are keeping oxygen levels in my body low and causing the growth of these anaerobic bacteria in large numbers.. such as candida. If you haven't done your research on hydrogen peroxide, fire up google and take a look. When used in proper dilution it's quite harmless and very beneficial to the human body, and humans have been consuming it from water and food since the beginning of time.



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    Old 08-12-2003, 03:17 PM   #7
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    To those who have used Therabreath and claimed it hasn't worked - how do you know that for sure? The only way you can know for sure is if someone you can trust tells you your breath still smells.

    And if you were using Therabreath, how long were you using it for before you gave up on it? I would imagine you'd have to use the things for a couple of weeks before it properly kicks in.

    Apparently most commercial mouthwashes contain alcohol which makes breath even worse because it dries your mouth out.

    I'm convinced my breath chronically smells as well (even though my husband reckons I never have bad breath) and have employed many of those tricks to keep people from smelling me! I'm using a similar system to Therabreath (it's called Breeze), so I'm interested to hear about people who say it didn't work for them. Having looked at both products' websites it's apparent that neither of these products are a "cure" for bad breath - they're just something that lasts longer than the stuff you get in your supermarket.

     
    Old 08-12-2003, 04:13 PM   #8
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    Look up sinus irrigation on the internet. I recently read a post from someone,possibly on the allergy board, who practices it and it has cured her sinus problems. Dud to my own sinus problems I looked it up on the internet, and it stated that sinuses can cause many things including severe bad breath, and that sinus irrigation will cure it. It sounds like a difficult thing to get into, but if you're desperate, it might be worth a try. It involves running liquid through one side of your sinuses and out the other.

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    Old 08-31-2003, 11:49 PM   #9
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    I thought that I was the only person in the whole world that has had this problem. I have also had it for all my 32 years. Like you all I have tried EVERYTHING possible. And, I have altered my personality in so many cases just so i would not have to open my mouth and let everyone smell the gross smell. Its so embarrasing isn't it. I feel like a lepa. I am sick of chewing gum all my waking hours.
    I would dearly like to get in touch with people who suffer this. Please email me, or just post a message.

     
    Old 09-01-2003, 02:11 AM   #10
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    I have always had the same problem. I was told many times by Dentists...and actually docs, that stomach probs can mess with your breath. If that's really actually true, I don't know. I chew like 3 packs of Dentyne Ice a day. What else is there to do?

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    Old 09-02-2003, 11:37 PM   #11
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    Please everyone, you have to try %3 Hydrogen peroxide. I started using it yesterday and it is the best thing that I have tried EVER. I am still not sure if it has totally cured my fowl breath or not, as i have not been around anyone today or yesterday.
    Have a look at my post under Dental, its titled "white coated tongue and it STINKS".
    Gee, I thought I was the only person to chew 3 packs of chewing gum a day. Not to mention all the other lollies that I constantly chew. My teeth are terrible with so many cavaties due to this.
    I guess the best thing is knowing that we are not alone, I still feel like the only person in Australia with this awful problem.

     
    Old 09-04-2003, 09:16 PM   #12
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    I think I may have a solution that almost rids myself of my chronic bad breath. I can not believe that someything that just costs a few dollars has helped so much. I have spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on other treatments that do nothing at all. I urge all you that suffer from this chronic problem to try what i have just tried. yesterday was the first day in my ENTIRE life that I did not go to work with a piece of chewing gum in my mouth.I had the best day, I was so confident and chatted and laughed all day. I deal face to face with our customers,( normally this is extremly hard, but I love my job so just have to deal with it) and it was amazing the rapport that I was able to build, just due to me finally being ME and not having to shy away cause of my fowl breath.
    Anyway, what I did was search under allagies on this forum, and I started reading all about post nasel drip, as I think ( maybe) this is causing my coated tongue. The last 48 hours, I have been doing nasel irragation witha mixture of baking soda, salt and warm water. The first time I did it I was really amazed at all the mucas that came out. Sorry for the graphic details. After that I get straight 3% hydrogen peroxide and gargle, trying to leave it on my tongue as long as possible. You should see all the white coating dissapear. Then I spit it out and scrap my tongue with my tongue scraper. Finally brush my teeth and tongue with normal toothpaste. FRESH BREATH!!!!!My breath has NEVER EVER been this fresh in all my 32 years. It is amazing. This fresh breath lasted for HOURS. All I did was sip some water to moisten my mouth. After a few hours I felt a little bit of a disgusting taste, so I chewed one piece of gum, and felt like my breath was really quiet fresh again. ( Normally the gum doesnt even mask the stench)
    I just hope that it keeps on working.
    I am going to go back to my doctors soon and get him to check if I do have PND. In the meantime, this is the best I have felt in YEARS...no EVER!!!!!!

     
    Old 09-17-2003, 07:22 PM   #13
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    Hi All!
    I have read all your posts,and it made me think of something I read a long time ago. I can't remember where I read it ,or what kind of book it was in .But I do remember it was a Man with the same problem as you all have. He went to every Dr.he could to try to get help with his bad breath,and he had it really bad!! They finally found out it was some kind of glands in his tongue.But a lot of help I am. I can't remember what they called them.Anyway the glands had rotted. He had them removed,and never had a problem after that. Maybe you could do a search on the web on the tongue.I'm sure you probably all have already done this. But it's to do with the glands in the tongue.If I can find anything on this I will sure let you all know. Good luck to all of you! sjg

     
    Old 09-17-2003, 09:28 PM   #14
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    Well, I am still suffering. The peroxide mouthwash doesn't work as good as i thought it did. Sure its the best thing that i have discovered so far, but by no means has it cured my bad breath. It relieves it for a short time, thats all.
    I am at my wits end, have no idea how to get rid of it.
    I find it is at its worst when or just before I get my period. Its bad at the best of times, but at this time its double rotten if thats possible.

     
    Old 09-25-2003, 09:17 AM   #15
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    Hello, I have been a bad breath sufferer for many years
    I've also tried everything on the market. Recently, I purchased Profresh and it works for about 3 hours (until I eat), then I have to use it again. I love it because it is not MINT flavored. It has a clean smell to it. Companies have to realize that chronic bad breath sufferers should not use mint. It only MIXES with the bad breath smell and ends up smelling much worse. We need solutions that wipe away the bad breath without mixing with the odor. Anyhow, try Profresh and I think you will like it...at least until something comes along that can eliminate the problem internally. I am aware that Zinc completely gets rid of body odor. Maybe there is hope in Zinc in some way. I tried Therabreath and Trioral and neither works for me. They both have Zinc but, maybe not enough??? Not sure. Anyway, Good luck. Keep up posted on new discoveries, as I will.

     
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