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    Old 06-29-2007, 11:32 AM   #1
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    Anyone have success with Fortical Nasal Spray?

    Would love to hear from anyone who used Fortical (Miacalcin) and had
    success in improving their BMD. My doctor recently recommended it since
    I have stomach problems and cannot take and wouldn't take the Biophosphatides. On the paper from the pharmacy it says to prevent
    further bone loss, but doesn't state that it builds new bone. Anyone have
    any further information on this?
    Jodianne

     
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    Old 06-29-2007, 04:26 PM   #2
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    Re: Anyone have success with Fortical Nasal Spray?

    Hi Jodianne: Sorry but I'm not taking miacalcin... I do know there are a few here that are so maybe you'll here from them shortly. I considered this drug before I went on Forteo, but my t-score was to low for the miacalcin and went on Forteo. I remember you said you didn't want to try the Forteo, so maybe you could give the miacalcin a shot.

    I understand that it slows bone resorption, mainly, but there is a "chance" it could cause some bone growth in the spine, per FDA article below. Have you read the literature on it that explains this and how it works? Below is a link to it if you want to read it.

    Miacalcin works at a slower rate than the other meds, so if you're looking for something that works fast this may not be the way to go, but that would be up to you. I guess this would depend on how low your t score is, and if slowing bone loss is considered an urgent matter in your case.

    The people that I've talked to that took this didn't have any problems with it, but they understood it was an alternative to the stronger/faster drugs out there. Good luck with your decision.

    Were you also interested in soy isoflavones? If so there's another link on it below.

    Hope you hear from someone taking it...

    Fortical:
    [url]http://www.fda.gov/cder/foi/label/2005/021406lbl.pdf[/url]

    Isoflavone:
    [url]http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/146/12/839[/url]

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    Old 06-30-2007, 04:31 PM   #3
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    Re: Anyone have success with Fortical Nasal Spray?

    DesertBloom,
    Thank you so much for replying to my question. I see you posting on so
    many posts. You are a great help to everyone with your knowledge and
    concern, so thank you from all!!!

    I was considering the Forteo, my reg doc had mentioned that the last time
    I was in to see her, but she wanted some time to think about it as she
    knows I have other medical issues that cause problems. When I came in
    this time, she mentioned to try the Fortical. We know I cannot take the
    Biosphosphatides because of stomach problems and actually from what I
    have read and heard, I don't want to take those. My concern with Forteo
    is only being able to take it for 2 yrs and then having to find something
    else anyway. Also I am concerned about the osteosarcoma.

    Yes I was interested in the Isoflavones. Actually my alternative doc had
    recommended Ipriflavone Plus. That is a synthetic isoflavinoid which I
    understand would not have the estrogen effects to contribute to breast
    or ovarian cancer as the Isoflavones could. My mother died of ovarian
    cancer, this is the reason I never wanted to be on Est/Prog after menopause.
    Side effect of the Ipriflavone is a possibility of lowering the white blood count
    and also the alt doc said it will not help the osteoporosis, it will keep it from
    getting worse, and it will improve the osteopenia.
    So-----doesn't leave me much!!!

    Now I decided to go w/ at least the Fortical and started it yesterday. I took
    it about 1:30 pm. By 4 p.m. I didn't feel right. Felt like my breathing was
    just not right, almost like mild hyperventilation. I thought it was just my
    anxiety problem kicking in because I had to take my dad for surgery yesterday
    morning. Didn't connect it with the Fortical. Took it today about 11:30 a.m.
    By 1:30 p.m. had the same restless, fidgity, slight hyperventive feeling again,
    now I am beginning to think its the Fortical. I am not going to take it
    tomorrow and see how I feel and then try again on Mon. It is calcitonin-
    salmon, maybe have a sensitivity to the salmon or one of the inactive
    ingredients. Gee, I really feel like I'm up a creek here!!!!!!!

    I'm going to talk to my alternative doctor in regard to the strontium when I
    see him later this month.

    My scores were: Lumbar spine T score -2.32.
    Proximal femur at the total hip -3.79
    Z score of -2.69 indicating significan osteoporosis in
    comparison to age-match controls.
    Thanks again for your kind reply.
    Jodianne

     
    Old 06-30-2007, 04:54 PM   #4
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    Re: Anyone have success with Fortical Nasal Spray?

    Hi Jodiane: Do you have any fish allergies? That might explain the side effects... Did you read the FDA link about Fortical, and did it mention the problems you're having? I didn't read the whole thing, but I'm sure it listed the contraindications and side effects. I'll take a look at it again and see what I find.

    Good luck, hope it doesn't cause the problems again. Oh, what about Evista, it's a selective estrogen receptor modulator. It doesn't have estrogen in it, but it does mimic estrogen in some ways, like slowing bone loss. At one point my mineral metabolism dr thought it would be a good choice for me after Foreto, but that was a while ago, not sure if she still thinks so. It doesn't cause any problems with breast/uterine cancer, but I've heard it does cause hot flashes/night sweats/leg cramps "for some" and I guess that's because it's an estrogen mimic, w/o the estrogen.

    If your dr isn't an osteopath or nutrionist, you may get some resistance on the Strontium, but the way I look at it is that drs don't know everything about what's out there, and I think the biggest problem with it, in their eyes is the fact that it's OTC and doesn't have any regulatory controls over it. Check out Phylwills Strontium article thread and the last post.

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