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    Old 11-18-2003, 10:44 AM   #16
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    Addiction can manifest itself when it is abused; not taken as directed by a physician. Every rx comes with a warning of its potential for addiction should an individual consume more than what the dr. advised or if it is taken in a manner not intended (crushed, broken, etc). It sounds like this is what you have done. You have admitted that you exceeded the dose recommended by your dr.

    Chronic pain patients do not just go to a dr. and receive an rx of oxycontin. We, over many years, have been thru hell and high water trying to get relief from severe, daily pain. We've run the gamut of injections, painful procedures, short-acting meds and THEN, and only THEN, are we offered a long acting narcotic. We do not use these meds for a "euphoria", we seldom experience this at all, usually at the beginning of long-acting med therapy. What we do experience is some relief from unbearable pain so that we may enjoy some semblance of functionality in our lives.

    Chronic pain sufferers, usually, do not become addicted (stats suggest 1% do); yes, we do develop a dependence (physical) on these medications, but we do not abuse our meds to the point where addiction (emotional and physical) rears it's ugly head. We have been educated to the dangers that exist with these strong narcotics because we are keenly aware of the fact that we are in this for the long haul. Like most chronic pain patients, I will be on narcotic medication for the rest of my life.

    I would certainly question a "family practice" dr. who rx's oxy, count 10, for acute pain. That is not it's intended use and I feel this dr. is not current on the protocol that exists for pain management.

    I hope your pain is such that short-acting meds will do the trick. But for you to be exalting the "joy" of oxycontin, I'm afraid for you should you ever really need long-term narcotic therapy. Best wishes, Linda

     
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    Old 11-18-2003, 10:49 AM   #17
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    I still fail to realiaze what you are getting at in your posts. Just because you had 4 sugeries does not mean your a candidate for oxyC. I never said you did not know what pain is but when discussing your shoulder (which was, at that point, all that I knew about) your post seems subject.

    In a case like yours most doctors would give a shot of cortasone, some mild pain killers, anti inflamatories, send you home to recoperate and tell you to alter your lifestyle in order to not re-injure your shoulder.

    In your post YOU were given oxyC, a 10 day supply (that in itself seems long for being given pain meds, usually only 3-5 days worth are given out for this type of short term pain)which you did in 7 days (from first post).

    When you accuse us of jumping your case because of a lack of information, which you did not supply. You gave a more detailed accounting, but still leave out anything that was tried or done. You listed doctors but no procedures, or any other pain medications that you have been given in the past.

    With statements like "Is it normal to still want the stuff", "Yes I like the way it made me feel", "My Question is: is that why/or how come this drug is so addictive to the point it ruins people's lives" and your wondering how so many people on this board get these pain killers. I am confused about what you are trying to get at.

    After I tried to answer your questions to the best of my ability the only thing you can do is jump on the part about me questioning the intent of your post (which now I do so more than I did before).

    What are you trying to get at......

     
    Old 11-18-2003, 02:27 PM   #18
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    Listen - Don't get too ahead of yourself, I went for FOUR ABDOMINAL surgeries last year alone. 95% of the people couldn't even do the prep alone for the surgery. I know what severe pain is....It took a good year of my young life.... That's not even including my destroyed shoulder...

    Shmigelz,
    I had the same problem that you did about 4 years ago. I had destroyed my shoulder, torn rotator in 3 places, bone spurs, and bursitis. I started on the pain meds and the tolerance just kept building. After my shouder surgery, they prescribed me 20 20mg Oxycontin and 30 Percs for the pain. This was supposed to last me at least 7 days. It lasted about 5. I was taking more and more pain meds becuase I liked the feeling. But don't take it if you like it because you will get addicted. I spent almost 4 months in rehab in California because I was in bad shape. Try Celebrex. If you do take the pain meds, take them as prescribed.

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    Old 11-18-2003, 02:50 PM   #19
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    I read this thread and just for data sake. I take 160mg of Oxycontin per day. I have been taking this for the past 8 years. I have never from the beginning, ever felt euphoria on this nor have I ever craved to use more of it. I only get relief from this horrible constant daily pain. This is not a short term drug. I have not seen any doctor ever openly offer to prescribe this medication without much prior studies on the patient. Most doctors including my GP and two other of my doctors told me they will not prescribe to me this medication I have to have a specialist, My endocrinologist and my Pain management doctors are the only ones that will write this script. I don't understand why your doctor even gave this to you with your description on how you say you received it. It all doesn't make sense. My pain is constant and daily. You say your pain gets bad on occasion. This just doesn't make sense to use this med for that description in the manner you described it.
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    Old 11-18-2003, 05:19 PM   #20
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    my thoughts

    I really don't think anything suspicious in the first post i began taking percocet for extreme headaches and backaches (percribed ofcourse)at first i was like wow this is awesome i feel no pain and i feel great and relaxed,then as my pain grew was on oxycontin aswell which now i take 80mgs 3 times aday with oxy ir for breakthrough,i will admit i did love the feeling it gave me only becasue it took away my pain and made me feel good which i am sure all of us pain sufferers only really want is to feel good again,i do find it odd that a dr would only give a 5 or 10 day percription on oxycontin because it is not like a as needed thing but,i know my body has become VERY tolerante to this medication and it does scare me to think of not having it and how bad the withdrawls are and i have taken the extra pill because my pain has been so bad,i think maybe some of us have a hard time with this drug because it does a wonderful job on our pain and it can be very highly addictive whether it be emotionally or physical dependance however the case you need to get the right help when not continuing with oxy,i have been trying not to be scared and ashamed of this drug i need to think that it is somewhat helpful with my pain and i need soemthing to ease the pain and right now its oxycontin.Maybe talk to your Dr about why he/she is only perscribing you such small percriptions for your pain especially if your pain is a constant thing.Sorry if i rambled or haven't made any sense i am very tired take care

     
    Old 11-18-2003, 10:15 PM   #21
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    Thanks for all your advice/comments.

    I really appreciate it.

    Cheer.

     
    Old 11-19-2003, 06:46 PM   #22
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    Aren't there a lot of Dr. (dentists) who prescribe Oxycontin for pain after surgery for just "10 days or so"?

    I had one wisdom tooth pulled and got a precription of 10 pills. Still have them btw after two years, used only two.

    My dh was prescribed vicoden when he about sawed his figure off with a saw last year. Was given 15 pills for pain.

    I thought the orginal post sounded okay to me. But maybe you guys are more experienced with this stuff.

    Kind of weird to disclaim someones post, cause they don't word things as we would like them too.

     
    Old 11-19-2003, 06:59 PM   #23
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    Annie, I think what the problem (at least for me) was that in the post it sounded like he abused the drug and was trying to blame the drug for his disire for more rather than take responsibility for his own actions. That it was not his fault that he wanted more of the drug, but the drugs fault. And we as CP patients know this not to be true. (could be just me).

     
    Old 11-19-2003, 09:31 PM   #24
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    Re: How long before addicted to Oxy?

    I am new to this board and it seems as if everyone is trying to analyze SHMIGELZ's intent. I personally have had one failed back surgery and have had moderate to sever pain for over two years now and have never been offered OxyContin for pain. I will comment however that some people do "hope" that all conservative pain treatments sort of "fail" so that they their own experimentation with harder drugs becomes acceptable to themselves. There is no fooling around with OxyContin, I know people who were prescibed small doses, for prolonged periods of a few months and eperienced severe withdrawls, ie; flu like symptons, night sweats, shakes, muscle aches. Don't use it anymore, stay with Vicodin, etc. If a person has an addictive personality then they need to be VERY careful.

     
    Old 11-19-2003, 10:45 PM   #25
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    Re: How long before addicted to Oxy?

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    Annie, I think what the problem (at least for me) was that in the post it sounded like he abused the drug and was trying to blame the drug for his disire for more rather than take responsibility for his own actions. That it was not his fault that he wanted more of the drug, but the drugs fault. And we as CP patients know this not to be true. (could be just me).
    I have no idea where you ever came to that conclusion... In regards to receiving a prescription for only 10 days was actually my choice. I have heard how addictive this drug can be BUT at the sametime its the only drug that works for my pain and doesn't upset my stomach.

    FYI: I could get more if I wanted. I just say my family doctor again today and he asked me if I needed more. I said no and I am currently waiting to see yet another Sports Med Doc so see what he/she says...

    Why does everyone think its a conspiracy/or your an addict if you receive a small prescription???

    And yes there is no foolin around with OxyContin. I recently saw a documentary on 20/20 about it. Scared the crap outta me....

     
    Old 11-20-2003, 06:53 AM   #26
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    Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember being in horrible pain for years because mt PCP only prescribed vicodin for pain. When I finally went to a PM Dr. he gave me a free week or 10 day supply of Kadian to see how it works before he prescribed anything long term. After so much pain, the new meds did make me feel great, because it was the first real pain relief in 3 years. I wouldn't say I was addicted, but I knew that a long acting opiate is what I needed. After the 1st 10 day supply I met with PM Dr. again and he put me on a 30 day supply. I don't know if it's the same situation, but it could be. Actually over the years I have received a 1 week supply of Duragesic, Oxycontin & Kadian. Dr's understand that these are very expensive. Good luck either way

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    Old 11-20-2003, 07:47 AM   #27
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    Krash1, Once again we are talking about a person that is in CP and will be on meds all the time (you). You were lucky to get a doctor that was willing to give you short sample doses to check out before prescribing a full month supply.

    I always had to buy and check the full month supply before I could change or up my medication.

    With SHMIGELZ he is not a CP patient but can go to his family doctor and ask for OxyContin and get a 10 day supply anytime he wants.

    His story has changed from time to time (not a lot but some) and he has picked on my posts twice. Think I might be hitting a nerve close to home?

    If he could step back and look at his own posts, he would see why I come to the conclusions that I do.

     
    Old 11-20-2003, 09:45 AM   #28
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    Re: How long before addicted to Oxy?

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    His story has changed from time to time (not a lot but some) and he has picked on my posts twice. Think I might be hitting a nerve close to home?

    If he could step back and look at his own posts, he would see why I come to the conclusions that I do.
    Sorry but I don't have time to play immature games.

    Thanks.

     
    Old 11-20-2003, 10:09 AM   #29
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    lol. But I will let you alone to play in your fantasy world.

     
    Old 11-20-2003, 10:40 AM   #30
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    I'm sorry SMIGELZ, but the simple FACT is, it's VERY ODD that a doctor would prescribe OxyContin for acute occaisional pain. If that's what your doc does, okay so be it, but understand that's highly unusual. OxyContin is given for the express purpose that you will be on it continuously for a long period of time (there is no tylenol, it has its extended release mechanism so that you'll have the drug in your body at all times for the chronic relief that you would need). Well that's it right there, OxyC is drug given to chronic pain patients who need relief EVERY SINGLE DAY. It's just that in your situation it would seem much more appropriate to be given a 10 or 15 day script of Percocet or Percodan, which has the same ingredient as OxyContin (oxycodone), but it's meant for short term acute relief. Those have tylenol and asprin in them, respectively as an adjuvant for relief.

    And I'm sorry, but also going back to your very first post on this thread, how you were worded it sounded very odd. I mean c'mon, if you realize you're getting the high as a byproduct of taking it, OF COURSE that's why it's addictive to some people. That's pretty self explanatory. I didn't know much about Vicodin 2.5 years ago, but within 15 minutes of taking the first one I ever did all that long ago, I knew immediately why people get addicted to it (because in addition to relieving my pain I felt fanastic - that's the euphoria).

    So, if you're still wondering why maybe some have shown the attitude that they have, I hope this once and for all answers it. Good luck

     
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