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    Old 01-29-2007, 05:48 PM   #1
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    Neurontin and Lyrica

    Are these meds. pretty much the same thing?

     
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    Old 01-30-2007, 12:35 AM   #2
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    I have taken both for nerve pain, they didnt work to well for me. As I understood it from my doctor they are both kinda alike but neurotin is an older medicine and lyrica is something newer they are trying with nerve pain.

     
    Old 01-31-2007, 01:34 AM   #3
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    Hello cmatthews1326
    I have taken both Neurontin and Lyrica also did some research on them, both came from the same Company Pfizer and Lyrica is newer and much stronger per mg.they don't seem to help me much, Lyrica is a medicine designed specifically to relieve 2 of the most common types of nerve pain: Diabetic Nerve Pain and Pain after Shingles. Lyrics is also approved to treat partial onset seizures in adults with epilepsy, Lyrica was put on the market to help the week sales of Neurontin.Hope this helps.

     
    Old 02-06-2007, 08:01 PM   #4
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    I tried both for chronic testicular pain after several specialists and my pcp couldn't find anything wrong. Neurontin did nothing, but Lyrica helps somewhat, maybe 20%. Not a lot, but it's something.

     
    Old 02-15-2007, 06:16 PM   #5
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    My understanding is that Lyrica is a very refined concentration of a chemical strain in Neurontin. So, supposedly more bang for the buck. I found it to be way more junk in my trunk and not THAT great. I think PM doc's really try to see what works for you as everyone responds so differently. When your pain is bad enough, you'll try just about anything - I know I have!

     
    Old 02-17-2007, 09:23 AM   #6
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    I've taken both and prefer the Neurontin over the Lyrica.

     
    Old 02-19-2007, 08:02 AM   #7
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    The two drugs are not related and work by two completely different mechanisms.

     
    Old 02-21-2007, 09:25 AM   #8
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    I'm sorry - I mispoke becasue I was momentarliy confusing Lyrica with Cymbalta.

    Lyricas is in fact a antiepileptic working by the same mechanism as gabapentin but has much stronger receptor affinity so works better with less side effects. \

     
    Old 02-22-2007, 11:52 AM   #9
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    I have undiagnosed chronic neck pain. I'm currently taking 1800 mg of Neurontin a day. The Neurontin helps a little, but not nearly enough. My doctor told me that past 1800 milligrams, Neurontin becomes less and less effective in terms of what you'd expect from increasing the dosage. IOW, it maxes out somewhat.

    I decided to try Lyrica because I was told that 100 mg of Lyrica is equivalent to 600 mg of Neurontin. Switching would allow me to get above Neurontin's maxed out dosage of 1800 mg.

    My personal experience after a month long trial was that 450 mg of Lyrica didn't do any better than my 1800 mg of Neurontin. Lyrica had more side effects. (It was harder to think. I gained weight.) And Lyrica is far more expensive. So I switched back.

    I'm not condemning Lyrica. I'm just saying that it wasn't the drug for me personally.

     
    Old 02-22-2007, 08:51 PM   #10
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    Hi vita64, I see you suffer from chronic neck pain and I was wondering does that include nerve pain? Also I read where your doctor told you the max. dosage is 1800. I suffer from RSD which involves nerve pain coming from my neck, shoulder and left arm and my doctor has me on a max. dosage of 3600 mg a day. I started out a 600 mg 3yrs. ago and now I up to 3600 mg a day and every time my doctor has bumped it up I've been able to tell the difference. Also you're right neurontin is cheaper than lyrica.

     
    Old 02-23-2007, 05:35 PM   #11
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    I've taken both Neurontin and Lyrica for pain from cervical nerve impingement and I found the Neurotin worked better for me. I've heard some people talk about it giving them a 'drunk' feeling, even at low doses, but it did not affect me that way. However, I never took more than 1800/day.

    At my doc's suggestion, I did try Lyrica for a while, but found that I had significant forgetfulness problems while taking it. I burned things on the stove and in the oven, flooded sinks, would start the washer without clothes in it or wash clothes and then forget about them for days, misplaced keys and telephones and drinks all the time, would occasionally leave to go to one place and distractedly drive to another..... I thought it was getting out of control and decided to go back to the Neurontin, which I think pain-wise works just as well.

     
    Old 02-24-2007, 08:43 AM   #12
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    Hi ember919, sometimes it does give me a "drunk feeling" especially when I first started taking it. But it was usually like early in the morning and it would like an everyday thing. But then it made not have from just the neurontin alone, I think it was from the combination of neurontin and the pain medication I was on. I also have never had that "drunk feeling" during the daytime.

     
    Old 02-25-2007, 03:21 PM   #13
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    rayefaye,
    You mentioned early that you are dealing with RSD. I'm dealing with CRPS which my doctor says its just the newer term for RSD. I have it in my right arm due to a radio frenquency procedure. I was hoping you could let me know a little bit more about what you are going through this is new for me. I will agree nuerotin is better than lyrica.

     
    Old 02-25-2007, 04:35 PM   #14
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    Hi nichole72, for me it started out as real sharp pain in my shoulder, elbow and neck, the pain got so bad in my arm that it got to the point I couldn't even use it. In the beginning now matter what they gave me for pain it didn't work, I had steroids shots galore and muscle relaxants, none of which worked. My hands, shoulder, arm and neck would burn like someone had set fire to them and my hands were real red looking. My arm would hurt so bad that it would draw up to the point where my hand would touch my shoulder and every time I would try to use it or extend it it would just draw up. My left shoulder would hurt real bad in the muscle and all around my arm pit to the point I didn't want nobody to touch it at all. Then at times especially if I used my right arm to much or try to reach overhead to do things and even sometimes when we had bad weather my left shoulder would draw all the way up to the point my left shoulder was touching my ear and my left arm would circle all the way around the right side of my neck. This would hurt so bad words can't even explain it but I would be in pure tears from the pain and also my head would turn sideways to the left side. No matter where you touch my arm, neck on both sides, elbow and shoulder it would hurt so bad and it would hurt to straighten out my left arm. By the time someone figured out what was wrong my left arm was left permanently weak and permanently left disfigured where my hand still touches the top of my left shoulder. In fact no one is for sure when exactly the RSD settled in and what caused it in the first place. It took several different treatments but after 4 yrs now they have about got it to the point I can half way deal with it. They have me on 3600 mg of Neurontin, 1400 mg of Soma (for muscle spasms), and Norco 3 to 4 times a day. I still have real bad days especially when it rains or we have severe weather, when we have severe weather I can hurt all day long. I also take Celebrex for arthritis. I got my disability back in May after 2 yrs of trying. I have also lost most of the use of my right arm as well but I am lucky and have a husband who helps me a lot even though I still try to do as much as I can. It took me a long time to figure out what my limitations were and that overdoing things can make me hurt worse but for the most part I get along pretty good these days. I have a wonderful doctor who also tries to help in any way he can which he says I'm doing much better than a yr ago which is true. I truly hope you find someone who will help you and try to contain it before it gets as bad as my case is because the earlier they detect it and treat it the better off you will be.

     
    Old 02-26-2007, 11:04 PM   #15
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    Re: Neurontin and Lyrica

    rayefaye,
    I'm so sorry to hear that but it sound like you were telling my story. I know exactly what it fells like its pure hell. For me its my right arm,shoulder and neck. Mine was caused by radio freqency my c5-c5 nerves where hit pretty bad. Luckly for me mine was caught at the end of stage 1. I just had a stellate block which helped with my swelling a little bit in my arm but now my arm is caving in due loss of muscle tone. Its so hard because I cant use my right arm compdue to the damage that was done. They also did some damage to my rotar cuff so its so hard to do therpy but if I dont my doc says my arm will just start to shrink up. Im darn if I do and darned if I dont. Have you had the stellate block? I was rtold it might take many of these there is no telling how long it will last but in the end my PM doc said I might need a spinal stimulator but I hope I dont get that far. I;m glad to know that there is someone to talk about this nightmare of RSD or CRPS. I wish you the best.Take care.

     
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