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    Old 02-14-2007, 05:34 PM   #1
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    Hi, I am a new poster and have been experiencing back and knee pain for over a year now. I have not had any injuries(that I know of), but I used to weight lift alot. I can barely excersise now with all my problems. When I walk my knee pops and seems as if it wants to give out on me. I can't lift anything heavy because of my back. I also experience "jumping" like when your eye "jumps" in my limbs and face. You can actually see the movement. I've been to internists, nuerologist,urologist, chiropractor, MD's, and gastrointologist and have had x-rays, colon exam, mri, blood tests, std's tests and have not found a clear explanation of what my problem is. I've been told that it could be arthritis, but I'm only in my late 20's. Every test that I've had(I'm leaving out some because I don't know what all of them are) have came back normal. I've been put on Cipro, but that made it worse. I felt weaker than before taking it. Can anyone offer some ensight to what maybe happening to me. Oh, I was told that I had some protein and blood in my urine.

     
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    Old 02-14-2007, 07:36 PM   #2
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    Hi Surf, the protein and blood in your urine could mean you have something going on with your kidneys, that could certainly be the cause of your backaches. Have you been testes for fibromyalgia? There are doctors who specialize in diagnosing, kind of like the tv show 'House', Maybe you could ask your pcp to refer you to a specialist in diagnostics. Good luck to you, Im sure others will have more ideas for you, and also look into some of the other boards on this site, there are some for people having undiagnosed health issues, that could be a good resource for you also. Hang in there!
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    Old 02-18-2007, 08:23 AM   #3
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    Re: Back pain, knee popping, twitching in limbs

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    Hi, I am a new poster and have been experiencing back and knee pain for over a year now. I have not had any injuries(that I know of), but I used to weight lift alot. I can barely excersise now with all my problems. When I walk my knee pops and seems as if it wants to give out on me. I can't lift anything heavy because of my back. I also experience "jumping" like when your eye "jumps" in my limbs and face. You can actually see the movement. I've been to internists, nuerologist,urologist, chiropractor, MD's, and gastrointologist and have had x-rays, colon exam, mri, blood tests, std's tests and have not found a clear explanation of what my problem is. I've been told that it could be arthritis, but I'm only in my late 20's. Every test that I've had(I'm leaving out some because I don't know what all of them are) have came back normal. I've been put on Cipro, but that made it worse. I felt weaker than before taking it. Can anyone offer some ensight to what maybe happening to me. Oh, I was told that I had some protein and blood in my urine.



    Hey surf, I think I might know what is going on, I have three bad discs in my back, along with that the pain would zing down my leg, after a while I would be just laying in bed and all of the sudden my leg would just start involuntaraly shaking, almost convulsing, I couldn't stop it if I wanted to,
    I told my pain doc about it and she said it was my nerves and she gave me a anti-seizure drug for it and it also helped with the back pain, my knees have always been bad from softball and hockey but they get to the point now where I am scared of stairs because they still give out on me. My knees are still weak but the shaking is better,

    now the cipro they gave you is a antibiotic so it shouldn't have anything to do with your back or legs,
    I hope this helps a little, now this is just my guess I think you should either go to a orthopeodic doc or a pain clinic, I think they would understand you better, or since your a gym rat even a sportsmedine doc,

    good luck, lemme know how it goes ---Jen

     
    Old 02-18-2007, 09:58 AM   #4
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    Just an FYI here since they cannot seem to find any back cause for this pain and problems you are experiencing(i am assuming they did do an MRI of your spinal column or at the very least the lumbar area?)this 'could' be all stemming fromyour knee issues.the thing is,whenever you have pain or structural problems in anything below the upper torso,like the knee or foot or any area there,you tend to walk very differently than you normally would and this alone can really throw your low back and hip area kind of out of whack somewhat and cause very real pain since your body is not accustomed to this 'new' way it is currently walking.do you know what i mean?this happened to me when my RSD in my right knee really started to get bad,i was limping which ended up also thowing my other leg kind of out of whack too.its just different walking than your body is used to.anti inflammatories may help some with this since it would be considered more mechanical type of pain.but that doesn't actually mean that nerves could also be causing some of the pain as well.

    but what i am wondering is if they have done an MRI yet on your actual knee to see why the ligaments/tendons are appearing to be too lax and letting things "pop' out of there normal posistion?my knee alnog with just having the RSD also has a host of other structural problems to deal with and its kind of deteriorating too just from the RSD(it demineralizes the bones).given your wieght lifting history,you could have caused some sort of issue like a possible tear in the meniscus or any number of weight lifting related type injuries and just never realized it at the time.i was shocked to find out just how much very real damage i had in my knee just from normal wear and tear and past old injuries that had left their mark there.if you have not yet had an MRI done on this knee,you really do need to obtain one.something is just 'too loose' in there.and there could be many reasons for that but surgically correctable tho.you just need to find out the full extent of whats up in that knee.

    this could be just one possible explanation for your back pain.and like another poster said,it wouldn't hurt to maybe have some labs run on your kidneys,depending on just where in your back that pain is coming from.please keep us posted on how you are doing,K?good luck,Marcia
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    Old 02-18-2007, 02:35 PM   #5
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    When I took cipro it was for a very bad kidney infection and my only side effect from that as I remember was headache, first I was on an antibiotic drip in the hospital for 4hrs then they sent me home with the cipro. I cant take prescription ibuprofen either, but when I buy the over the counter kind I can, maybe it is because it is 200mg. per pill and each is coated (Itake 4 at a time). I also was instructed by the pharmacist to drink down my ibuprofen with soda pop as the soda puts the pills in the area of the digestive tract that absorbs it the quickest and most efficient, decreasing the upset stomache. I swear by this particular advice, because I used to think I was going to die the pain and nausea was so bad from prescription ibuprofen, but now I can take it, and at times I feel ibuprofen is as important as the narcotic pain meds. Sorry I can only offer this piddly advise when you really need so much more but I just wanted to help somehow and I know others on here with greater experience will help ya with the big technical stuff. So stick around and I hope you have a "painless" as possible day.
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    Old 02-18-2007, 06:31 PM   #6
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    i took avelox (same family of drug as cipro) 8 months ago and ive been confined to a wheelchair ever since. tore several tendons wdespread muscle, joint pain, phototoxicity/sjs, vasculitis, nerve damage, numbness, paranoia other cognitive problems , the lsit goes on an on. my life has been completely destroyed im in pain continuously. cipro is not just an ordinary antibiotic it works like a chemotherapeuic drug does ataking cells. hat kind of antibiotic changes apersons dna. one of the most dangerous drugs on the market. do some research and you will see that hundreds of thousands of people have had their life altered from this poison. the popping and twitching are common side effects to cipro and other fluoroquinolone drugs. adverse reactions can occur months later so its hard to trace back to the drug. whatever the cause i wish you the best.

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    Old 02-19-2007, 09:24 AM   #7
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    somehow i missed the protien in your urine part here,this definitely need some looking into since this IS one of the very first indicators of possible kidney disease.other things can aso cause it but just having it there is enough to look into it much more in depth.in your case,since it is there,just plain old labs really shouldn't be totally relied upon,you also should follow up with at the very least,an ultrasound as well.this will give you a much better overall picture of just what is or isn't going on within your kidneys.

    the thing about any actual lab work is genrally you will NOT see actual number changes til the actual damage to the organs reaches some 'magic' level.this i do know for certain.i have severe polycystic kidney disease and my kidneys are about three times the normal size and just covered inside and out with huge polyglobs of cysts,but if you looked just at my kidney labs alone without my ultrasound,well you would think i had two wonderful kidneys.my damage has not reached that "level" yet,but one day it will.you just need to really follow up on that protien thing soon.they had found actual protien in my urine during my routine fire dept physical we have to have once a year,wayy back in like 97? but i didn't follow up mostly because no one really told me what that possibly could mean for me.it wasn't until our son became seriously ill in 99 that i had to have my kidneys scanned with ultrasound to find out which side of our family this disease was coming from that i had confirmed PKD.never had a clue except for that protien way back when.

    if you are indeed having back pain,you most definitely need to have blood work done followed up qwith an ultrasound just to be certain.either you will show something or you wont,but either way,at least you will know.but this does require a follow up.do not blow this off like i did.like i said,other things can also cause prorien to spill into your urine but the leading cause is unfortunetly kidney disease.i don't know how i missed that part of your post the first time around.one of those days i guess.sorry.

    just an FYI forannyone whohas to take cipro but has some stomach issues?i too had to take that crap for my knee stuff and really have a horrid reaction(stomch burning like hell) from any antibiotic i have ever taken escept zithromax.unfortunetly zithro was not an option for what my need were,so i HAD to figure out a way to be able to tolerate this crap.my orthos nurse and i spent like an hour over the phone with her checking things for me with a pharmacist on the other line and came up with taking zantac an hour before the cipro,and it worked fantastic.this IS okay to do,trust me,we checked this out totally and completely with the pharm just to make certain one wouldn't negate the effects of the other.you can ask you own pharmacist too,but this really was the best way for me to take it.that cipro is really some very potent crap and should never be given unless all other options wont fit what you are actually trying to treat.its just much much stronger than your average anti B with alot of more involved possible side effects and reactions.

    but at any rate,please get those kidneys checked out.this really does need the proper follow up.good luck and please keep us all posted.marcia
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    Old 02-19-2007, 07:54 PM   #8
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    Thanks for the reply, I have been taking ibuprofen, naproxen, and some of everything they dull the pain for a while then its back to pain as usual.

     
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    I told my doctor that after taking that drug I immediatelty felt weak, one morning I could barely get out of bed. He told me that he did not beleive it was the medicine, but I know that I never felt that way before in my life. I just stopped taking it on my own. Thanks for the warning. Drug companys should warn people about these drugs and the side effects.

     
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    I have had my kidneys checked and they are normal, no stones or anything. Ive done that 24 hour test, had something stuck up my penis (twice) and still nothing was found.

     
    Old 02-22-2007, 02:10 AM   #11
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    Surf, that must have been so scarry, I had no Idea that many side effects could come out of an antibiotic, I am glad you stopped taking it on your own, I hope all of the side effects fade, good luck, try to keep smiling --Jen

     
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