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    Old 08-18-2010, 07:45 AM   #1
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    I need help so scared!

    I guess that I was red flagged or something. I am dealing with 2 kinds of cancer and have been on pain meds [oxy] for over a year. I got a letter from my gp stating that he will no longer have me as a patient because I was getting meds from another doctor as well. That is true. This whole thing just got out of hand and I am a wreak over it. I hate the oxys they are the devil and I can't get off. I am in too weak of a state to go cold turkey. That would do in this 60 year old. I have an appt with the 2nd doctor tomorrow. I am sure he has been told as well. I don't know who reported me. i Started off with the best of intention. Just to help with the pain. Now I don't know what to do. I will plead with my doctor tomorrow not to dismiss me. I hope that he will be understanding and help me get off this drug. Maybe I can find something OTc that can help me. What a jerk I am. Now what do I do? I NEED the medication now because I am addicted to it. Will anyone ever treat me again? I am at wits end and I did this to myself. HELP PLEASE HELP.
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    Old 08-18-2010, 10:06 AM   #2
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    Re: I need help so scared!

    let me ask you this? just how truely severe IS your pain? with some forms of cancer, treating with other meds can work really well, but others not so much.

    i am just merely guessing here at what took place more behind the scenes as to how this was even found out? as of the first of this year, there was a federal mandate put into place that simply required EVERY single state to have some form of actual 'tracking system" in place that i know for sure covered all forms of narcotics at the very least, and possibly any controlled substances? every single doc that can rx narcotics, ERs, and the pharms all have access to this info and all they have to do now is simply pop in your name into this data base, along with the little password they are also given to access it and they can see every single narcotic med you have been Rxed in it. one of these docs could have done this or a routine type of staff thing where they just have someone who is regularly popping into it so 'their' doc is aware of any Rxes that any patient in their care may have gotten from another while their doc IS also rxing you narcotics too without telling about the other Rx you have? that would be considered a form of 'doc shopping', and is very very much frowned upon, esp if you are in ANY formal pain management clinic type of situation?

    i would try and plead your case to the other doc but being as truthful as possible from here on out? but if you really really feel that this IS an actual addiction issue and not merely dependancy, then you DO need to obtain some help here? these are just two very different things. one good option if you seriously need pain management beyond OTC meds or trying other forms of pain management is to start seeing what is called an 'addictionologist"? these are experts in treating pain patients who have kind of lost control of their narcotics? this would be the very best person for you to see considering you just DO have cancer and a problem with the narcotics possibly? only YOU really know for certain where that part is in your head as far as why you were doing what you were doing in the first place? it could be your pain was being undertreated and you 'felt' you needed more coverage or you just wanted to 'feel" a particular way by abusing what started out as need for pain relief?

    anyone who takes any form of narcotics can end up addicted to them. and anyone who thinks that under certain circumstances that this could not possibly ever happen to them is not being very realistic. all it takes is that 'perfect strom" of certain events happeneing in your life way too much at one time slamming you, then also throw in some depression and that pain med can very easily become a way to help to deal and cope vs only pain relief(its that dissociative effect that narcotics simply have that IS the 'coping tool" now)? this just a very real inherent risk when anyone is taking pain meds like we are on a daily basis and the "right stuff" occuring at the perfect times.

    but i would seriously speak with your doc here and just be totally honest about your situation and see how that goes and what he feels is needed. when it comes to narcotics and our Rxing docs, honesty is ALWAYS the very best way to go. i do hope things work out well for you hon. please do keep me posted, marcia
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    Old 08-18-2010, 10:57 AM   #3
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    Re: I need help so scared!

    which doctor did you start the oxy with? why did you accept same medicine from another doctor? why didnt you talk to your primary prescriber about how you were feeling regarding pain and the dosage you were on? I would be thinking about my last 2 questions honestly before seeing dr tomorrow.
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    Old 08-18-2010, 03:25 PM   #4
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    Wow, Thanks for your response. You are so right on. It was the perfect storm of events. I did not start out with the idea I would become addicted. My doctor called it "dependent" but in my mind and body I am addicted.
    This is my 3rd cancer. I have thymus cancer I beat 20 years ago. I now have cancer of the esophagus and also breast cancer. They were diagnosed the same week, but the cancers are not related to each other. I have had my esophagus removed and was in the hospital for 2 months on a vent. Lucky to be alive. This same year my husband lost his job and our insurance we have large hospital bills. We also ended up losing the house because I couldno longer work.Everything hit at once the depression etc. I donot geta high from the oxy. I took it for pain, but want to get off. It rules my life. I will be up front with the doc tomorow and I hope he will send me to a pain management doc that will help me slowly get off this stuff I do need to take something for the pain.
    I will keep you posted
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    Old 08-19-2010, 09:11 AM   #5
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    Re: I need help so scared!

    thanks for the info hon. i am wondering tho about any PM actually even taking you on as a 'new' patient(unless you are already IN PM somewhere here?) if this is just involving actual addiction issues, except if there just IS a real honest understanding of your want and need to actually just recieve help in coming OFF the oxy but still being able to have your pain 'appropriately treated" as need be along the way too? which simply can be a very 'iffy' thing with ANY PM vs the addictionologist i mentioned above?

    this is why i am wondering if being referred to the addictionologist right from the very start may be a much much better idea for you? they simply have much much more real experience and overall knowledge of what it will actually even realistcally take to acheive your goal and still require PM when needed too? this just IS what these particular types of specialists 'do" for their patients? the majority of actual PMs are taught how to relieve various types of pain moreso than very directly dealing with any patients who truely NEED some level of real honest to god pain care, but are also struggling with a possible "active" addiction too? i just personally feel that you would be treated better and get more knowledgable overall care from the addictionologist than any given PM here in this particular type of situation?

    stuff just happens hon and we can lose control of things under certain circumstances that you would never ever have expected to actually happen to 'you', it simply 'does/can'. no one on this earth ever simply wakes up one day and says, 'gee, i really would LOVE to become an addict today" ya know what i mean? its actually knowing that the meds have taken control OVER you and your life and taking the proper steps needed, whatever those may be, to simply get the proper help here and regain control over "you" and your own life again. simply admitting to your doc or the addictionologist that this crap IS in control and you feel powerless to even control it right now, IS the very first step in even getting yourself to a much better had healthier place in your life and inside your own head.

    but NOTHING will or truely even can be achieved without your total and complete honesty with any and all of your docs from here on out hon. and YOUR full commitment here too in just doing whatever it may take to get this all behind you as much as you can while while doing all the right things to simply 'keep you' in the right place from here on out? this just is and always will be an "ongoing process' for you. but i seriously would speak with your doc and let that doc know that you just do feel that you have a real problem here and need some real solid help and guidance thru this process right now. and i most certainly would ask about being referred to a good addictionologist georgi. i just see that type of doc for you and your cancer situation being your very best bet here right now, thats all. it wont hurt to simply see this type of doc for a basic consult/eval/assessment of you and what you feel you are actually even dealing with right now.

    only YOU truely 'know' what you feel here as far as a real dependancy goes or an addiction goes hon, this IS part of what the addictionologist can also help you with and truely identify. i do hope things will get better for you hon. just do whatever you need to according to what you simply KNOW is your 'true" situation and esp after consulting with and merely speaking to an expert in this field as the addictionologist actually just 'is'. they just 'know' so much more about drugs/pain meds and addiction and also treating pain from something like cancer that you just 'may" at some point really 'need' to have to treat with more than standard forms of meds too. i do wish you all the luck in the world hon. i am hoping things will work out soo much better for you in the long run. but just remember, total and complete honesty is simply very much a bigger part of this ongoing picture with every single doc or person involved in your ongoing care, now and in your future too, please do keep us posted georgi, Marcia
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    Old 08-23-2010, 03:09 AM   #6
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    Re: I need help so scared!

    You're not a jerk. The question I would ask myself is this: Am I wanting off the oxy because I believe myself to be truly addicted, or is it because of the guilt I feel? Studies consistently show that if you have a true need for pain meds, addiction is rare. Your doctor is correct about dependence. There's a big difference. Make sure you're doing the right thing for the right reasons. Good luck

     
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