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    Old 09-18-2003, 09:08 PM   #1
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    Hi everyone,

    I was wondering if someone could assist me. My husband had a severe case of pneumonia back in February that ended up causing abscesses in his lung cavity. The Dr's placed 3 chest tubes and removed over 2 liters of fluid, and also performed a lung surgery to remove the abcesses. Much to everyone's surprise, my husband survived this severe illness.

    Since the surgery, my husband has had consistant 24 hour/7 day a week chest discomfort (he doesn't call it pain) that starts from his chest bone and pretty much goes all of the way to the center of his back. The discomfort can take his breath away sometimes, and makes sleeping a challenge.

    The Dr. has informed my husband that he has muscle defects from where the 3 chest tubes were inserted and removed and has prescribed Percocet as needed and that Ecotrin has also relieved some discomfort in similar cases. My husband has tried the Ecotrin, Excedrin and even Ibuprofen but nothing seems to touch the discomfort as well as the Percocet.

    Unfortunately, from what we have been told, my husband could be in this pain for 1-2 years, and possibly even longer. We just don't like the thought of him being on Percocet that long...even if it is "as needed."

    Can anyone suggest alternatives to the Percocet? It has been a very long road, and I would appreciate any type of suggestions.

    Thank you so much for your time.
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    Old 09-18-2003, 10:06 PM   #2
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    Hi SmilingFeathers, I'm sorry to hear of your husbands bout with pneumonia. You mention trying ibuprofen and that it didn't help. We have a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug up here (canada) called toredol. It acts like a narcotic but it isn't so you can't become addicted to it. You would have to get it prescribed by your doc. It might be worth asking if there is possibly a drug like this that he could take.

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    Old 09-18-2003, 10:17 PM   #3
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    Hi all! Smiling, so sorry to hear about your husbands condition...I am dealing with a similiar problem with my TMJ (but I am sure not as painful!) and am trying to find an alternative pain medication that I can remain on for awhile. Personally, I have tried the Toradol earlier this year when I went to the ER with lower back pain...it never did cut through my pain and left me very sleepy which at the time was somewhat okay (I was still in some pain) since my back was healing and I had to lie around anyway. I have tried it with my TMJ but have to be able to stay awake and function! I guess everyone is affected differently by medications so it's worth a try...I would explain the situation to his doctor and take it from there...good luck to you and your husband! TC!

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 07:08 AM   #4
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    Hi Twisten and Mamaslittlehelper.

    Thank you both for your posts. I have never heard of the medication but will research it out and inquire with the Dr.

    And Mamaslittlehelper...I sure hope you feel better with the TMJ. I know that can be a very difficult, and painful time. My thoughts are with you...

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 07:19 AM   #5
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    So sorry to hear about your husbands pain....it can really run ones life. The only problem with Toradol is (from what my Dr. told me) it can only be used for about 5-7 days as it is way too much for the stomach. Perhaps he should see a pain management Dr., who may be able to better help. Is it the narcotic aspect you are concerned about or the tylenol that is in it? If it's the tylenol, there are meds(long acting) that do not contain any tylenol at all. If it's the narcotic aspect perhaps they may offer other suggestions....but sometimes opiods(narcotics) can really save one from terrible pain and help give life back. Hope this helps some....take care of yourselves, it's not an easy road and those in chronic pain can attest to! Love, Surgical Disaster

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 08:02 AM   #6
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    You're right Surg, I did have to stop taking it every 6 days for 3 or 4 days then go back on it. I totally forgot about that. This drug is probably not going to be of much help to your husband but maybe there is another one similar to it your doc may know about.

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    Old 09-19-2003, 08:07 AM   #7
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    Hi Surgicaldisaster,

    It is definitely the narcotic aspect of the drug that bothers both of us. My husband was a teenager in the early 70's and experimented with many of the wild drugs that were around, and liked them a little too much sometimes. So, keeping narcotics away from him would be a very good thing.

    A pain managment Dr is something I had not thought about. I will do a little research on that in my area. 2 years of living in pain and being on percocet on and off is just a long time for someone who enjoyed recreational drugs...even if it was 30 years ago.

    Thanks again........Love, SmilingFeathers

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 08:10 AM   #8
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    Hello, Smiling Feathers, and welcome to the forum.

    The chances are that nothing is going to work exactly like the Percoset. Why does your husband not want to take it until he is healed? There is nothing wrong with using a med that he needs, as long as it is properly prescribed and monitored by his physician.

    Can you tell us why he doesn't want to take it?

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 08:46 AM   #9
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    O.K., now I understand...both of you are concerned that this might be something he ends up not being able to handle too well in the long run. Well, given that, and I think if it's a concern to both of you then it could be a problem, has he tried anything like accupunture or alternative things like that? I did try that myself unfortunately to no avail, yet I have friends that swear by it! So, for some it does wonders, others, maybe not, but ya never know. A PM Dr. might be just what you need to seek other avenues...good luck and let us know how things are ok? Love, Surgical Disaster

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 08:48 AM   #10
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    Hi I am so sorry to hear about your husband. I quess I"m about the same age. For me the 70's were just one 'good' year, so I can relate to your worries. I see you're from Ct. also. There are same great pain Dr. around here who will listen to your worries. It's really worrth a try. One good thing your husbsdand has going for him is a wonderfully supportive wive. Take care,Lake

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 10:25 AM   #11
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    Feathers:

    If your husband is suffering from daily pain, (like I do for back problems) the short-acting narcotic painkillers may not be the best thing. Ask the doctor about long-acting narcotics like Oxycontin, Avinza, or the Duragesic patch. They deliver potent pain relief steadily over the whole day without having to pop a pill every time the pain surges. They didn't work for me because of the nausea side-effect, but many people have benefited from this type of drug.

     
    Old 09-19-2003, 10:33 AM   #12
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    Hmm...everyone is just so wonderful here. Thank you all for opening up and giving me suggestions. I have essentially taken care of him entirely by myself through his illess with hardly any assistance from family. And just with these few posts from all of you, I feel like I am not going through THIS journey alone.

    I love the idea of seeking out a PM Dr. and possibly even other avenues such as acupuncture (yet another thing I had not thought of).

    Thank you all for being here for me, and helping me see things that I hadn't considered. It has been a wonderful feeling.

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    Old 09-19-2003, 10:59 AM   #13
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    I am currently using Duragesic Fentanyl Patch and also 10/325 Percocet for several herniated discs in my back. Sometimes I switch from the percocet to ULTRAM. Doing this helps prevent as much addiction to the percocet for me.

    Ultram is the ONLY medication that helps me. It is not as good as the percocet but does do a great job. This is NOT a narcotic and is not habbit forming.

    I have tried just about every possible pain reliever on the market and after a lot of trials, I found the Ultram works the best.

    Check with your husbands doctor and do some research online!

    I wish you and your husband the best of luck!!!!


     
    Old 09-19-2003, 11:13 AM   #14
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    Smiling,

    Welcome to the boards. Having pain dailey is very hard on a person. I do believe that since both you and your husband are aware of the potential problems of addiction is a great step. I also believe that since you are so aware of this that it may work to your benefit when it comes to taking narcotics. I would diffinately have a very frank and honest talk with your docs and be able to find some relief. Ultram is a good alternative but polobailey is alittle misimformed. It has the potentail of being abused because it acts on the same recptors that narcotics do just to a lesser extent. Toradol is way out of the question for long term. Not only is hard on the stomach but very hard on the liver as well. I too would suggest seeing a PMdoc. There are alot of other methods and treatments that they can try. I'm sure that they will be able to help him find some relief. I do hope for the best for both of you and by all means keep us informed...

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    Old 09-19-2003, 02:27 PM   #15
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    Hey Smiling, so glad you don't feel alone anymore with this situation. And yes, there are sooo many routes you can take. The PM Dr.s are the ones that specialize in this. We are always here...know what it is like...and are always willing to help/offer advice or just to lean on. It is not easy on the person actually in pain, but sometimes even harder for the supportive person(that you so clearly are!) as well as you feel somewhat helpless in certain ways I'm sure. So, let us know k? Surgical Disaster

     
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